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    What about the obvious/The defense's written admission!

    I really don't know where to post this, so mods feel free to move it. But I do think this needs some attention!

    Back when the prosecution hadn't decided whether or not the DP would be on the table the defense team wrote a letter spelling out that IF Caylee died it was "AN UNWITTING OVERDOSE OF A SEDATIVE"

    What more do we need???????? If this isn't an admission of guilt what is?

    Why isn't anyone bringing this up? Shouldn't this be all the prosecution needs at this point?

    Please discuss!
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    link the info and change the title as to what the threads about and you're good to go.


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    Good point. I had forgotten about that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by piratemom View Post
    I really don't know where to post this, so mods feel free to move it. But I do think this needs some attention!

    Back when the prosecution hadn't decided whether or not the DP would be on the table the defense team wrote a letter spelling out that IF Caylee died it was "AN UNWITTING OVERDOSE OF A SEDATIVE"

    What more do we need???????? If this isn't an admission of guilt what is?

    Why isn't anyone bringing this up? Shouldn't this be all the prosecution needs at this point?

    Please discuss!
    That was not an admission of guilt, it was one sentence out of a 30 page document that we did not get to read about why the state should not pursue the DP in this case. It will never been seen by a jury just like any negotiations that went on during any attempts at a plea deal wouldn't be admissable.

    They are running toxicology on the remains, if she is positive for xanax prosecution will present that in a logical fashion (ie she wasn't prescribed xanax so whomever gave it to her was reckless with her life at a minimum, death during aggravated child abuse, or intentional murder).


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    Thanks Jane for the link!

    In my opinion this is the BEST evidence to date. In this written document you have the defendant saying "It was an unwitting overdose of a sedative". This provides us with a lot. It is disgusting to think we won't see this come up at the trial. This is the best we have so far!

    With what little soft tissue left I won't be surprised if we wont be able to detect the xanax, AKA "Zanny" in her system.

    How does the defense team get away with writing this letter and not having it thrown up in their face. I wish someone would bring this up to authorities. This little tidbit seems forgotten!!!!!


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    I believe I heard Dr. G. say that even though toxicology wasn't back it would be hard to determine levels. I'm hoping that given the defense's offer of an explanation of a possible overdose that they may know that there is a witness(one of her friends,perhaps) who knows that KC has done this more than once. Remember (I believe it was Amy) one of her friends saying how Caylee slept through a loud party. I'm praying the defense has plenty-after all they charged her even without Caylee's remains.


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    Also, if she was drugged with the Zannie (or chloroform) and died because KC gave her too much. It would explain why she never called 911. As opposed to an accidental pool death.


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    Thank you JBean!

    This has nothing to do with the death penalty as the DP is still off the table.

    Earlier Baez made some statements in his letter to the prosecutors regarding KC's involvement. As an attorney I don't think he can outright lie (he is considered to be an officer of the court) but he can certainly put his own spin on it. Publicly then and even more recently he presented that the defense believed Caylee to be alive but kidnapped. But yet he sent this letter which didn't match what he was saying publicly.

    Since Caylee's remains have been found and since the medical examiner was unable to determine her cause of death on the evidence from the remains I thought that JB's words might reveal some clues. I believe that JB knows and has known how Caylee died. In the letter he says that it wasn't a premeditated murder.

    I'm unable to pull up the old article. Does anyone have the full article? Any thoughts on what JB wrote compared to what we now know?


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    how about this thread mysteriew?


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    Quote Originally Posted by piratemom View Post
    Thanks Jane for the link!

    In my opinion this is the BEST evidence to date. In this written document you have the defendant saying "It was an unwitting overdose of a sedative". This provides us with a lot. It is disgusting to think we won't see this come up at the trial. This is the best we have so far!

    With what little soft tissue left I won't be surprised if we wont be able to detect the xanax, AKA "Zanny" in her system.

    How does the defense team get away with writing this letter and not having it thrown up in their face. I wish someone would bring this up to authorities. This little tidbit seems forgotten!!!!!
    Authorities are well aware of it. Not to worry, they have enough evidence without it, the public just hasn't heard it all yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by essies View Post
    I believe I heard Dr. G. say that even though toxicology wasn't back it would be hard to determine levels. I'm hoping that given the defense's offer of an explanation of a possible overdose that they may know that there is a witness(one of her friends,perhaps) who knows that KC has done this more than once. Remember (I believe it was Amy) one of her friends saying how Caylee slept through a loud party. I'm praying the defense has plenty-after all they charged her even without Caylee's remains.
    Yes, Dr. G did say this and it bothered me. However, if ANY traces of Xananx or chloroform are found, you would have to ask why! A child should not have ANY traces of Xanax in their system. I'm not sure about choroform - it's possible that trace amounts are normal. I'll have to do some research on that.
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    I think Baez will be saying anything he likes at this point as has the family. That won't be his defense though. The DP lawyer was the one that did this work I think. He is no longer needed since DP is currently off the table.

    No way in heck is he going to use a defense of mythical nannies and dark deep sinister plots to frame Casey or that someone used Caylee for a drug debt that she had no means to pay.

    His defense, IF it goes to trial, will be something more puritanical and it will be used to lessen her sentencing. He gave us a clue when he said "We will all understand after his opening statement". It is not a mythical nanny. I highly doubt this reaches trial though, as I think he will plea out. It will be awhile before he attempts that because he is milking the publicity. I hope the prosecution refuses any plea deal.


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    It's possible that Xanax, chloroform, etc weren't even involved. Waaay back when we discussed movies she might have seen/imitated, I brought up Freedomland, where a young child was killed with an overdose of cough syrup.

    It could have been benadryl, tylenol, anything OTC that Casey might've given her hoping she'd go to sleep and stay that way for awhile.


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