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    Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

    IMO, any reasonable person will conclude that Casey did it, especially after all of the evidence is presented, by a very thorough prosecution. What do you say?

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    I absolutely believe that they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I do have concern though, over whether they can prove intentional murder (which is what I believe) vs a cover-up of an accidental death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concentric View Post
    IMO, any reasonable person will conclude that Casey did it, especially after all of the evidence is presented, by a very thorough prosecution. What do you say?
    I have to see all the evidence presented first I am keeping an open mind til the end so I can base my decision 100% on the trial.
    ok maybe it's not 100% open but I am going to try.

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    I'm reasonable and I agree.

    The decomp in the trunk along with the hair that forensics has proven to be from Caylee and to have shed after death overcomes any and all reasonable doubt.

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    Reasonable doubt.. hmm well, the key to that question is if you have two different interpretations of a situation, you must choose the one that goes to Not Guilty. You cannot just say I believe this or that. So much of the information we have is basically from the street, rumors etc. Science is going to make or break this case. If they can lock up all the science and give answers , no problem. If it is going to be based on things like her attitude or internet searches.. I really have to wonder what kind of verdict there will be in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CentralFLMama View Post
    I absolutely believe that they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I do have concern though, over whether they can prove intentional murder (which is what I believe) vs a cover-up of an accidental death.
    Your statement above is a bit contradictory IMO, because you start by saying that you 'absolutely believe that they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt', but then say that you have concern as to whether they can prove intentional murder vs accidental death. So what is it that you believe can be proved 'beyond a reasonable doubt'?
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    Pirate, (I had to chuckle about it) I'm reasonable, too, at least I think so...hmmm, am I doubting my own mind? Uh, not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirate View Post
    I'm reasonable and I agree.

    The decomp in the trunk along with the hair that forensics has proven to be from Caylee and to have shed after death overcomes any and all reasonable doubt.
    The evidence you have quoted goes only to prove that Caylee is deceased and that she was at one time placed in the trunk after death. How does this evidence prove beyond a reasonable doubt that KC is guilty as charged?
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    I think how she is charged is going to be a critical element in this case as well.

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    It's all circumstantial now as we know it.

    I think if the search yesterday afternoon yielded what LE need to tie it to the deceased then you will have had evidence.

    But THEN you have a really long road to get a #1 verdict.


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    The fact that the body appeared in an obvious place while Casey was in jail is a big question.

    The answer to that question is that Casey worked with organized crime, because she was a worker in the very lucrative, Orlando fantasy/sex business.

    Unlike many women who repent of being in the sex business (many do not), but like the ones who don't, those who do it with flair, Casey's soul was not hurt by her job in the Orlando sex business, because she was on the same emotional level as all the men she had relationships with. On other words, though she had relationships with many men and made money from it, it seems like they were all honest relationships. She was one of the very rare happy hookers.

    No one has reported yet that she was a worker in the sex business and that she was working closely with people in organized crime and that something happened concerning Caylee and these people.

    This is probably why Casey spent 30 days trying to get Caylee back on her own. What happened was between Casey and these organized crime people she was associated with.

    Because these are very bad people, recently she has said that when this is over she will get a real job and not do what she has been doing.

    Reasonable doubt is that Casey was working with people in organized crime, there was some kind of argument that Casey tried for 30 days on her own to resolve. She was afraid to talk about it because of what these people might do to Caylee. Now the body inexplicably appears on a neighborhood lot, and on top of the ground, where it should have been discovered a long time ago.

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    I dont think there will be any doubt reasonable or otherwise that KC willfully intentionally and maliciously caused the death of that baby .

    An accident and panic or a kidnapping isnt going to fly with the evidence and testimony presented by the prosecution .

    The prisoners own words and deeds will seal her fate

    She is guilty and will be found so by a jury of her peers .

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    Forensics along with circumstantial evidence are going to be the deciding factors in this case.

    As I have read, through documents, video, and audio that we have been privy to so far I conclude that there will be no REASONABLE doubt.

    I can't see what the defense could do or say to dissuade my opinion at this point. I'm very happy I can not be on this jury, I don't think I could put aside my feelings and be fair in a trial. I thought I could at first, I'm a pretty fair and impartial person in real life but in this case not so much.
    Caylee - WE will NEVER forget. Neither will Karma.

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    Caylee is dead, her mother was the last one to see her alive, decomp evidence in the trunk... etc. There is enough to prove 1st degree murder, much of it thats yet to go public.

    The only way the "accidental death" theory is gonna show up in court is if Casey confesses that she was there when her daughter died and I just don't see that happening. The defense can argue all day and night that it "could have been an accident", but in order for the jury to buy that, KC has to admit to it. How could they argue accident when KC still denies any knowledge?

    All my opinion obv.

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    This is Florida. We have a large population of retired grandma's and grandpa's who, thankfully, still believe in the decency of excellent moral conduct. More than a few of these good people will be placed as jury members.
    Casey's lifestyle of moral turpitude will weigh heavily against her as well as the evidence collected.
    Have no fear, the good citizens of Florida will make sure that this wreck of a human being will no longer dwell within the greater community.
    We don't tolerate child killer's. Period.

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