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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ann/article.do

    Read anything there that makes your blood boil?? You first....
    This fatal sentence that always turns up:

    "There is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm."

    Echoes of Gerry. Ya know, if a child is missing and presumed kidnapped, they have already been "harmed." Is this just a Britishism, or what?

    It's just like Gerry saying that he expects to find Madeleine "in good health." Oh really . . .

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    Hey Tony B....

    If you happen to stop by....

    How many books have you sent out? How many in the UK? How many over here?

    I was just wondering if the interest in your book and the lack of interest in the "fund" is what precipitated the trip to Portugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ann/article.do

    Read anything there that makes your blood boil?? You first....
    What a crock of you know what!!!!!

    Her abduction????? What abduction?????

    Okay - the whole thing made my blood boil!!!!111

    Salem

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    It's all BS.
    If I don't link it, it's only my opinion.

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    Metodo 3

    Madeleine McCann detectives uncover Spanish child porn network

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...n-network.html

    Thirteen people have been arrested in a police operation sparked by the search for the missing youngster.
    Barcelona-based private detectives Metodo 3 were hired by Gerry and Kate McCann to help find Madeleine

    They reported their finding's to Spain´s National Police who launched an operation to hunt down the paedophiles distributing the videos.

    Armed police launched a series of raids across Spain last month and arrested 13 people.
    Ten more are being formally investigated by a judge at a Barcelona court, who is overseeing the police operation.

    Agency director Francisco Marco said videos were 'the worst images I have seen in my life.

    He added: 'In the video all the victims are under ten years old. I am satisfied to have taken out of circulation more than 20 paedophiles, and those who will be arrested in the future.'
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    Metodo 3 have been maligned by many because they haven't yet found Madeleine but it's thanks to both Madeleine's fund and Metodo 3 these poor abused children may get the help they desperately need.

    Well done Metodo 3

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    I agree April4Sky - well done Metodo 3.

    I can support any end to child abuse, no matter who brings it on and this gives me hope that the loss of Maddie is not in vain.

    Bless all the children and let all the perps fry.

    Salem

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    Thanks to Duarte Levy

    google translation

    19/01/2009

    Metodo 3 is seeking to restore its image after Madeleine McCann

    Detectives are seeking to take credit for the dismantling of a network to exchange images pedophiles
    Metodo 3, the detective agency that Catalan McCann served during the months that followed the disappearance of Madeleine, now seeks to restore its image, tarnished by the lack of results in this case but also by recent allusions made by the Spokesman for the couple.

    Francisco Marco, the director of Metodo 3 to convince the Spanish daily El Mundo of his detectives had helped the Spanish police to arrest members of a network of pedophiles on the Internet images, information contradicted by a source the National Police.

    "This agency is not responsible for the operation. The network in question was already under supervision of our services for some time, but we await the right moment to catch up people and put an end to their activities, "said a spokesman for the Spanish National Police, contacted by SMM, stressing that" the intervention of the agency has only rush was a risk to wait knowing that private , especially those, had information and could jeopardize the work of our investigators. "

    According to the newspaper, known for its relations with the agency in Barcelona, information collected by Metodo 3 detectives during their investigation into the disappearance of Maddie, have enabled the Computer Crimes Squad Barcelona National Police up to 23 users, of which 13 were arrested during the operation "Lolita P-mix" launched by the Spanish authorities.

    Francisco Marco said the daily that the agency had established a call center to disclose the worldwide disappearance of Madeleine McCann and after that received an email saying that the small British video appeared on a pedophile, they arrived to locate a series of images exchanged on networks "Peer 2 Peer" Donkey Gnuteklla and 2000. Maddie was not on any photo or video Metodo 3 but was forced to convey information to the Computer Crimes Squad of the National Police in Barcelona, a legal obligation to which even the detectives can not escape.

    Since the establishment of the Investigation Brigade of Science in 1995, several thousand people were arrested in Spain or abroad, for crimes related to pedophilia, particularly the exchange of photos or videos on the Internet. The Brigade also maintains an excellent collaboration with other police forces abroad, which enabled him to contribute directly to the dismantling of the larger networks.

    Duarte Levy (Huelva)

    http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...G%26ie%3DUTF-8

    No matter who is responsible, thank God for the arrests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ann/article.do

    Read anything there that makes your blood boil?? You first....
    Yes of course she is being treated like a Princess somewhere!

    More money for the fund, huh!

    Yes it makes my blood boil!

    I wonder what part Metodo really did play in the operation to dismantle the Pedophile ring? Glad these beasts have been arrested anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    Thanks to Duarte Levy

    google translation

    19/01/2009

    Metodo 3 is seeking to restore its image after Madeleine McCann

    Detectives are seeking to take credit for the dismantling of a network to exchange images pedophiles
    Metodo 3, the detective agency that Catalan McCann served during the months that followed the disappearance of Madeleine, now seeks to restore its image, tarnished by the lack of results in this case but also by recent allusions made by the Spokesman for the couple.

    Francisco Marco, the director of Metodo 3 to convince the Spanish daily El Mundo of his detectives had helped the Spanish police to arrest members of a network of pedophiles on the Internet images, information contradicted by a source the National Police.

    "This agency is not responsible for the operation. The network in question was already under supervision of our services for some time, but we await the right moment to catch up people and put an end to their activities, "said a spokesman for the Spanish National Police, contacted by SMM, stressing that" the intervention of the agency has only rush was a risk to wait knowing that private , especially those, had information and could jeopardize the work of our investigators. "

    According to the newspaper, known for its relations with the agency in Barcelona, information collected by Metodo 3 detectives during their investigation into the disappearance of Maddie, have enabled the Computer Crimes Squad Barcelona National Police up to 23 users, of which 13 were arrested during the operation "Lolita P-mix" launched by the Spanish authorities.

    Francisco Marco said the daily that the agency had established a call center to disclose the worldwide disappearance of Madeleine McCann and after that received an email saying that the small British video appeared on a pedophile, they arrived to locate a series of images exchanged on networks "Peer 2 Peer" Donkey Gnuteklla and 2000. Maddie was not on any photo or video Metodo 3 but was forced to convey information to the Computer Crimes Squad of the National Police in Barcelona, a legal obligation to which even the detectives can not escape.

    Since the establishment of the Investigation Brigade of Science in 1995, several thousand people were arrested in Spain or abroad, for crimes related to pedophilia, particularly the exchange of photos or videos on the Internet. The Brigade also maintains an excellent collaboration with other police forces abroad, which enabled him to contribute directly to the dismantling of the larger networks.

    Duarte Levy (Huelva)

    http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...G%26ie%3DUTF-8

    No matter who is responsible, thank God for the arrests.
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article2147562.ece

    A spokesman at National Police headquarters in Madrid confirmed today that information supplied by the Metodos agency had led to the arrests.
    He added “abundant material” was seized including 28 hard discs containing pornographic film using various children, all of them younger than ten.

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    They never claimed to be responsible for the actual operation.

    What Metodo 3 did do was pass over to the Spanish police the information and video's they had collected.

    It seems Mr Levy can't bring himself to give credit where credit is due.

    The part Metodo played was clearly important not just for the victims on the video's but for any other children these particular evil perps would surely have gone on to victimise in the future.

    Well done Metodo 3.

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    Like I said...

    No matter who is responsible, thank God for the arrests.


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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    Like I said...

    No matter who is responsible, thank God for the arrests.
    Thats BIG of you!
    But at least it's something we can agree on.
    Last edited by april4sky; 01-20-2009 at 02:38 AM. Reason: amended

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    I agree April4Sky - well done Metodo 3.

    I can support any end to child abuse, no matter who brings it on and this gives me hope that the loss of Maddie is not in vain.

    Bless all the children and let all the perps fry.

    Salem
    Hi Salem

    I do hope the children in the video's can be traced and helped.

    And agree with you...let the perps fry.

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    Forensic Scientist's statement from the DVD

    Regarding the hair tested by the FSS laboratory Birmingham....

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    Witness deposition: Andrew Lloyd Palmer; Age: Older than 18 years
    Profession: Forensic scientist
    Address: FSS
    References: FSS: 300655190, 400972691; Client: Operation TASK
    CJS/URN: 07/06085

    I declare that:
    This deposition (comprising five pages signed by me) is the truth, to the best of my knowledge, and that I give it knowing that, if it should be presented as evidence, I would be subject to legal penalty should I have declared anything that I know to be false or that I think is not true;
    I declare also that,
    I am expert in the field of forensic sciences and that I was asked to give a deposition. I confirm that I have read the guidelines contained in the document Disclosure: Expert's evidence and unused material, that specifies my functions and documents my responsibilities, with respect to disclosure as an expert witness.
    ------------excerpt ---------------

    Signed 9 November 2007

    Qualifications and experience
    I am a qualified Chartered Biologist [Footnote 6 states: The highest professional level achievable] and a member of the Biological Institute. I have 25 years experience as a forensic scientist. During this period I have examined hundreds of objects in the detection of blood, semen, saliva, fibres, hair, down and other trace material derived from [human] contact. I have been present at many crime scenes, having given technical opinions in various cases involving the detection of blood and the interpretation of samples of blood spots/specks. I have drafted reports and have given depositions in numerous cases of homicide, sexual violence and other cases involving the transfer of body fluids and the interpretation of the results of DNA profiles. I am a forensic ?doctor/practitioner?, registered with the Order [presumably of Forensic Medecine], specialising in DNA analysis, body fluids, capillary distribution [system of blood flow around the human body], down, hair and fibres.
    Laboratory reference
    The lab reference of this case is 300655190
    Objects received
    According to the lab records of 7 August and 6 September 2007 the objects referred to in this report entered the FSS laboratory in Birmingham, having been remitted by the Police Science Laboratory of Portugal and by the Leicestershire (UK) Police, respectively.
    Objective
    The objective of my examination was to determine if down or hair was recovered from the Renault Scenic 59-DA-27 and, if affirmative, to determine if those may have come from Madeleine McCann.
    Mobilisation of scientific support people
    The examination of the objects in this case was done with the assistance of scientific support people. A list of those people, together with a brief description of the work that each performed, is in the Forensic Examination Record/Register, which I present as exhibit ALP/1. It is a complete record of all work done, together with notes made during the examination. These notes are available in the lab for verification, if necessary.
    Examination and results
    Reference objects
    I received [obtained] information from the pillow-case SJM/1, the tops SJM2, 4 and 5, and the hairbrush SJM/36 belonging to Madeleine McCann or used by her. The hair found on these objects was used in substitution of [in place of] reference samples of her hair, [which were] not considered to be authentic samples of her hair.

    No hair was recovered from the pillow-case SJM/1 nor the hairbrush SJM/36.

    A total number of twelve [12] hairs or hair fragments were recovered from the tops SJM/2, SJM/4 and SJM/5. All of these appeared to be hair and not down, being mainly blonde in colour. One of the hairs was brown and distinctly darker than the other hairs, suggesting, at the least, that this was a hair from someone else.

    The remaining eleven hairs/fragments varied in length from 4 millimetres to 45 millimetres [~1/8" to ~1,3/4"]. I could not conclude that all hairs were from the same person. If they had been from Madeleine McCann, then they are not representative/typical/characteristic of a sample of her hair, given the length of that seen in photographs of her.

    Objects from the Renault Scenic - licence plate 59-DA-27
    The following objects recovered from the scenic were subjected to examination:
    1A, 1B, 1C, 1D,
    2A, 2B, 2C, 2D, 2E,
    3,
    4A, 4B, 4C,
    5A, 5B, 5C,
    6A, 6B, 6C,
    7A, 7B, 7C,
    8A, 8B, 8C,
    9 and
    11 (2 objects).

    There were more than two hundred hairs, down or fragments of hair and down. The majority appeared to be different from the blonde reference hairs recovered from SJM2, 4 and 5. Furthermore, no blonde hair consistent with that seen in photographs of Madeleine McCann was found.

    Approximately 15 hairs, down or fragments were blonde and fair, presenting a similarity with the reference material. All were of insufficient length to make a solid [definitive] comparison. Furthermore, they are too short to do mitocondrial DNA tests. Folicle root material is insufficient for standard DNA tests.

    Four hairs - one from 7B and three from 7C - were sent for Low Copy Number DNA testing. The results of those tests will be presented by my colleague John Lowe.

    Conclusion
    In the objects recovered from the Scenic, there were around 15 blonde/fair hairs similar to the reference hairs from SJM2, 4 and 5. However, as it was not possible to do solid [definitive] or significant [forensically meaningful] tests it is not possible for me to determine if, or not, these could have been from Madeleine McCann.

    The conclusions expressed in the present deposition are based on information available at the date of the examination. In the case that there are changes to that information, or additional information becomes available, it may be necessary to reconsider my interpretation and conclusions. That re-evaluation will be most effective when done immediately prior to any judgement.

    A.L. Palmer
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    None of the hair tested could be identified as Madeleine's.

    And I wonder who started the "rumour," and why? that the FSS in Birmingham were not equipped to test hair.

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    From the Files...Regarding fingerprints
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    A - Unnumbered page between pages 884 and 885 in Processo vol 4.
    At 01:00am on 4 May 2007 I, JB, assistant-specialist, began to examine the following location:
    At apartment 5A, Ocean Club: Inside glass of the window in the children's bedroom.
    Five prints were recovered; three of the middle finger of the left hand and two of the index finger of the left hand of the mother of the missing child.
    Only the inside of the glass was examned at this time due the fact that it was night and the location was sealed until there was sufficient light to allow the examination of the residence to be completed.

    B - Pages 967-972 Processo vol 4.
    At 11:00am on 4 May 2007 I, IT, assistant-specialist, began to examine the following location:
    At apartment 5A, Ocean Club:
    - Side of the patio door: One adequate print recovered but not matched to known persons.
    - Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.
    - Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.
    - Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.
    C - Pages 1470-07, 1498 Processo vol 4.
    Various Interpol communications from police in eight countries around the world re: comparison of fingerprints with those retained in the databases of those countries.
    Several prints were unusable for comparison purposes; all others were compared with no results.
    ********

    So there were fingerprints recovered that couldn't be traced.

    Who's to say none of these belonged to the abductor.

    And none of the fingerprints found on the outside blinds of the childrens room were confirmed as belonging to Kate....
    .....Which gives the "lie" to the claim, "often backed up by a picture of said print," that they were Kates.

    So another lie bites the dust.

    .....Madeleine McCann.....

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    Wow, that's interesting information about the hair and the fingerprints, April!

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