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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    Oops, my bad! I forgot it was A who said they took those tests. But for some reason I thought she failed, guess only LE knows that.

    ETA: I just checked and you're right, she posted that and said she had passed, as did XBF. Sorry 'bout that!

    You expect me to keep 3 years of info sorted right in MY little brain? LOL!

    I'm telling ya!!!

    It almost gets to a point where your brain is mush and all these things/info keeps running around in your head.

    And you say I talk fast... Well.. that's cuz memories and stuff make u remember things... and it kinda goes like a waterfall.. one thing leads to another and the memory comes..

    Yea.. I know DK.. it's SOOO hard to keep track..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    NO DK... nobody could see the door from the living room. There is a WALL there...and you have to go thru the kitchen area/thru dining room and then to living room. If you look on the pic's with me and family - we are sitting on the staircase.. to the left of everyone is the opening to the living room. We are all facing the dining room/kitchen area... the wall and staircase encloses the living room..

    I never said or posted she failed DK... on this forum or any other forum. She posted on Topix that she passed. I never commented in public if that was a true statement or a false statment.

    I agree that the killer/s was someone they both trusted and knew who was on the property. And totally possible with how you wrote... that the person/s were in the house and had a conversation or something with her... But there is no way to view the door from where Darleen was sitting and murdered.

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    You said the couch was against a wall so no one could come up behind her. And there is no way she couldn't hear someone walking all that way, as the floors are creaky. And finally, she was hit in the face, primarily, IIRC, with no blows to the back of the head, as would be expected from an attack from behind. She had to be facing her killer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    You said the couch was against a wall so no one could come up behind her. And there is no way she couldn't hear someone walking all that way, as the floors are creaky. And finally, she was hit in the face, primarily, IIRC, with no blows to the back of the head, as would be expected from an attack from behind. She had to be facing her killer.
    yea - the house was creaky...and could almost 'feel' someone walking into the house as the floor boards would make noise. Door creaked when opened. Also the main/wood door kinda stuck - so you had to give it a little push to open - just a little-bit.. but enough to make some noise..

    I understand .... the thought your having is nobody could sneek up on her.. Yes - that is true.. Unless you float in air...

    She would certainly KNOW someone was in the house.
    BUT... maybe she thought it was Dad coming back from the barn?
    OR - YES - maybe the killer/s were very known in the house and YES.. can come into the house and stand right next to her and have weapon and Darleen never noticed it... OR.. Darleen did know person/s was in the living room - maybe even chatting with her while the other was in the barn - and never questioned the reasons for the weapon (but not a weapon at the time) to be in the person/s hands.

    She also could have been facing the TV or her face into a book..and just looked up at that split time... to be given the death blow in her face.

    Again - knowing the killer/s on the property and trusting.. and - Dad being back in the house soon to eat popcorn. Thought the sound of the door was Dad?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco View Post
    yea - the house was creaky...and could almost 'feel' someone walking into the house as the floor boards would make noise. Door creaked when opened. Also the main/wood door kinda stuck - so you had to give it a little push to open - just a little-bit.. but enough to make some noise..

    I understand .... the thought your having is nobody could sneek up on her.. Yes - that is true.. Unless you float in air...

    She would certainly KNOW someone was in the house.
    BUT... maybe she thought it was Dad coming back from the barn?
    OR - YES - maybe the killer/s were very known in the house and YES.. can come into the house and stand right next to her and have weapon and Darleen never noticed it... OR.. Darleen did know person/s was in the living room - maybe even chatting with her while the other was in the barn - and never questioned the reasons for the weapon (but not a weapon at the time) to be in the person/s hands.

    She also could have been facing the TV or her face into a book..and just looked up at that split time... to be given the death blow in her face.

    Again - knowing the killer/s on the property and trusting.. and - Dad being back in the house soon to eat popcorn. Thought the sound of the door was Dad?

    You've mentioned the killers MIGHT have been worried about Darleen being a witness (not totally sure I agree, but possible) but by the same token, if they killed her first, wouldn't they be worried about your Dad walking back into the house unexpectedly? And realistically, the killer's couldn't have quietly put Rosco on the chain, I don't think. Your dad would have heard or see them do it maybe, unless Rosco completely trusted the person doing it and didn't make a sound. Even calling the dog over and hooking the chain up makes noise within range of your dad's hearing, possibly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    You've mentioned the killers MIGHT have been worried about Darleen being a witness (not totally sure I agree, but possible) but by the same token, if they killed her first, wouldn't they be worried about your Dad walking back into the house unexpectedly? And realistically, the killer's couldn't have quietly put Rosco on the chain, I don't think. Your dad would have heard or see them do it maybe, unless Rosco completely trusted the person doing it and didn't make a sound. Even calling the dog over and hooking the chain up makes noise within range of your dad's hearing, possibly.
    Oh for sure DK. Dad could have also been the person to walk into the house and seen Darleen.

    Regarding Rosco... he's not easily dragged to the chain. He does not like being chained up. I know this now cuz when DH wants to get him from out of underfoot (normally when it's dinner time for DS) he has to take him and drag him to the other closed room. It's not an easy process.

    Again - that brings me to the thought that Dad 'might' have put Rosco on the chain for one last time for the night.. (( and I say that only cuz the fact that knowing Rosco - he's is pbly under-foot when Dad is trying to work on tractor - ))
    BUT... Big barn doors were closed - cuz DH told me - he was at the scene and walked into the barn. So Rosco being on chain could just mean Dad might not have wanted him to wonder that night before doing his 'duty'...
    Still ...Rosco would have barked or wanted OFF the chain if someone came to the house - to greet the person/s who in entering his home. Even if the person/s would have already been at the house.. Rosco would bark to get off chain.. he did not (does not) like to be chained up when there is company and possible attention to give to him...

    This thought still does NOT change my mind that the killer/s easily could have chained Rosco up... knowing he would protect... Just thinking of other ideas...

    I still think there was more than one person and each had their place / one outside and one inside.

    ???

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    Rosco how do you feel about this

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77542

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    date/time/place of Last Seen, date/time/place of Police Report, birth information on key players in the case including the Victim; etc.
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    Rosco, I agree that more than likely more than one person, no way for 1 person to attack your dad and still be clean and then go in and chat up Darleen without her seeing the state of there clothing...This still does not mean that someone did not maybe pull up go into house attack Darleen and then go out and attack Dad in the barn..If Dad was already in barn saw someone pull up peek out of barn saw car he knew went back to his task never in a million years feeling a threat....This is another thought I have I know that LE is not able to tell you much..But Girl keep in mind that THE SKWEEKY WHEEL GET GREASED so if that means that you can chat the main detective up every day giving him little bits of this and that...Like tell him I dont want to know if you found out anything about say "A" financials I just want to know that you all have looked in that direction...If they say yep already checked that angel..then cross that off the list and go on to the next...We all tend to think well I am sure they have checked this and that...and maybe they have but it sure never hurts to ask..And also I know you and your brother god bless you have been the Skeeky wheels for 3 years but remember never give up...If you would like for me to contact the Nancy Gracy show also I will be happy to call them also...you can contact them by phone, they show a number every night while on her live show that is on at 8pm...It is hard to get thru during the live show, but I am pretty sure if you call that number during the day you can get ahold of her producers..You can also email the Jane Valez Mitchell show she is on at 7pm also on headline news and she takes live calls during her show also..so call her number during the day and talk to a producer...I would also try and get ahold of dateline, the more worms in the water the more fish you are likely to catch (I bet your dad would have loved that comment)..

    I really mean if there is anything I can do just let me know you can send me a PM or email me...I do not work and would be happy to chase anything down that you need anytime of the day or night....If you would like I can PM you my phone number...I just hate that this has not been solved...Justice is to long in coming in this case and your parents and you and your brother deserve it now.......Another person helping to work any angle sure could not hurt....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
    Rosco, I agree that more than likely more than one person, no way for 1 person to attack your dad and still be clean and then go in and chat up Darleen without her seeing the state of there clothing...This still does not mean that someone did not maybe pull up go into house attack Darleen and then go out and attack Dad in the barn..If Dad was already in barn saw someone pull up peek out of barn saw car he knew went back to his task never in a million years feeling a threat....This is another thought I have I know that LE is not able to tell you much..But Girl keep in mind that THE SKWEEKY WHEEL GET GREASED so if that means that you can chat the main detective up every day giving him little bits of this and that...Like tell him I dont want to know if you found out anything about say "A" financials I just want to know that you all have looked in that direction...If they say yep already checked that angel..then cross that off the list and go on to the next...We all tend to think well I am sure they have checked this and that...and maybe they have but it sure never hurts to ask..And also I know you and your brother god bless you have been the Skeeky wheels for 3 years but remember never give up...If you would like for me to contact the Nancy Gracy show also I will be happy to call them also...you can contact them by phone, they show a number every night while on her live show that is on at 8pm...It is hard to get thru during the live show, but I am pretty sure if you call that number during the day you can get ahold of her producers..You can also email the Jane Valez Mitchell show she is on at 7pm also on headline news and she takes live calls during her show also..so call her number during the day and talk to a producer...I would also try and get ahold of dateline, the more worms in the water the more fish you are likely to catch (I bet your dad would have loved that comment)..

    I really mean if there is anything I can do just let me know you can send me a PM or email me...I do not work and would be happy to chase anything down that you need anytime of the day or night....If you would like I can PM you my phone number...I just hate that this has not been solved...Justice is to long in coming in this case and your parents and you and your brother deserve it now.......Another person helping to work any angle sure could not hurt....
    You're terrific for offering to volunteer so much time and effort!!!! Thank you very much!

    Trust me that Rosco nags LE constantly, lol! Anything and everything gets sent to them.

    Rosco e-mailed Nancy Grace. Maybe the phone number is a good idea. Thanks again!


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    DK-I sure hope my post did not come off sounding like I didn't think that Rosco had done enough in bugging LE cause after taking 3 days of reading all of the post's on here as well as on Topix it is very aware that she has been keeping on them constantly...I just hope that they (LE) are not starting to ease up any on the case, and really it doesn't sound like they are..But any help that can be given in any way I would be glad to do..From everything I have read this is a case that screams to be solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
    DK-I sure hope my post did not come off sounding like I didn't think that Rosco had done enough in bugging LE cause after taking 3 days of reading all of the post's on here as well as on Topix it is very aware that she has been keeping on them constantly...I just hope that they (LE) are not starting to ease up any on the case, and really it doesn't sound like they are..But any help that can be given in any way I would be glad to do..From everything I have read this is a case that screams to be solved.
    Kimmer have you read AMW story too ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
    DK-I sure hope my post did not come off sounding like I didn't think that Rosco had done enough in bugging LE cause after taking 3 days of reading all of the post's on here as well as on Topix it is very aware that she has been keeping on them constantly...I just hope that they (LE) are not starting to ease up any on the case, and really it doesn't sound like they are..But any help that can be given in any way I would be glad to do..From everything I have read this is a case that screams to be solved.
    No, not at all. Sometimes people new to the case just don't grasp how much she hounds LE, so I was just reminding the new people who are so kind to help us. She does send everything to them!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmer View Post
    ...Now something I found very intresting was the below entry by "A" on Topix...

    Nov 11, 2006

    I am Terry and Darleen's youngest daughter. I am the one who had to discover the hossific, unhuman, aftermath of what the killer or killers left behind in the very home that I grew up in my entire life. Words cannot describe the image that is forever imprinted in my memory of the sight of my mother, to whom I was very close to dead, severely massacured on our living room couch. I want answers... Why, who, and how?!

    Now what I find so intresting is how in the world with the severe damages to Darleen could she have only been very close to dead when "A" found her that morning if it had been done at night, there is no way that she would have lived throughout the night..
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    Hi Kimmer, I'll echo the appreciation of your taking the time to thoroughly read up on Terry & Darleen's murders.. and for your thoughts & input and offer to help out!

    The bolded part up there caught my attention and I didn't see that anyone addressed this part for you. I get how you're reading A's comment... and therefore your thinking (the second bold) follows that. Her grammar and punctuation was a bit off and makes it easy to misinterpret. I think, tho, that what she was trying to express was this (in a little better or more readable format): the sight of my mother, to whom I was very close, dead.

    Hope that made sense :-) Glad you're here!
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    Hi Kimmer, I'll echo the appreciation of your taking the time to thoroughly read up on Terry & Darleen's murders.. and for your thoughts & input and offer to help out!

    The bolded part up there caught my attention and I didn't see that anyone addressed this part for you. I get how you're reading A's comment... and therefore your thinking (the second bold) follows that. Her grammar and punctuation was a bit off and makes it easy to misinterpret. I think, tho, that what she was trying to express was this (in a little better or more readable format): the sight of my mother, to whom I was very close, dead.

    Hope that made sense :-) Glad you're here!
    Yes, your interpretation is correct. She simply didn't include punctuation. There is no question they died instantly. None.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeavisMom62 View Post
    Wow, Rosco, the theft of guns is a CIVIL matter? How odd. That Big John guy sounds kinda creepy, just hanging out in the shadows and taking things of the property. Without even an introduction! Rather rude, at the very least wouldn't you say? And geez, that Ray guy over on Topix! I don't know what I think about him! It sure is a lot more confrontational over there than here, huh?
    The guns were not stolen, per se. Amanda had just as much legal right to any property, including the guns, as Rosco or other family members. So if she is the one taking them, there are no laws being broken, thereby making it a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

    In a perfect world, Rosco would have taken the matter of her dad's property to civil court as soon as LE said it was a civil matter. But in light of what had just happened and the subsequent shock and mourning, it likely wasn't palatable to even consider it, at that time. Which is understandable.


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    DK-when it comes to the guns being stolen, the place that I have read that info was in the very beginning of the case there was a list of property that LE stated was stolen the night of the murders and they listed several guns and also some collector coins, am I understanding that correctly, or was that list put out by LE after "A" allowed people to remove property from home..Now I am confused..
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