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Heres a copy of the transcript I made for this date (including my own personal observations).
**Disclaimer: This is my own interpretation of the conversations. It may not be an accurate representation of what was actually said.**
July 30th visit with George and Cindy video 1:
july 30th visit with george and cindy
CA: ???????
[ KC grinning as she sits down and sees the a's]
KC:this is not gonna be easy [to herself] hehehe
CA:goodmorning honey
KC: goodmorning [singsongy]
CA: how are you doing?
KC: good. i'm a little tired but good.
CA: Can you see our shirts?
KC: uhm.yeah Can you..Can dad to stand up and model again
CA: stand up dad [to GA] CAn you see her?
KC: oh wow thats good.[underwhelmed]yeah. thats really good.
CA: annie had those done
KC: annie had those done? she's awesome
CA:annie had these done, isnt she awesome?
KC: tell annie thankyou . yeah. tell her thankyou
CA: we just got em last night
KC: cool [shrugging shoulders]
KC: so...... [uncomfortable pause]huuuuh...[big sigh]
CA: whats going on baby?
KC: nothin. uhm, didnt get to sleep really the night before so i was catching up on that last night. i think i passed out at like, 7:30. woke up maybe twice in the middle of the night, passed back out and woke up at5:15, 5:20, when breakfast CAme thismorning. so i at least got a good sleep last night.
CA: thats goood.[gritting teeth]
KC: so i'm still a little tired. [laughs]uhm......oooohhhh
CA: it was good to see you yesterday [flat]
KC: yeah you too [ high pitch] i mean i know i missed our visit in the morning but at least i got a chance to see you in person which you know is a little bit better anyway, so........hows dad doin'?
CA: he's ok. i'll let you say hi to him hun.
KC: ok
GA: hey beautiful.its papa jo
KC: hi! [v. high pitch]
GA: how you doing
KC: i'm good [laughs]
GA: thats good. i'm so glad to...to hear your voice
KC: yeah..i know- likewise.
GA: and to see you right now...and....you know it makes me feel very good.so even the chance to see you yesterday even for a brief moment is just a little ways but i want you to know i love you and i miss you.
KC: oh, i know, i love you too [high pitch]
GA:the house..the house is very quiet
KC:[laughs]
GA:you know with you not being there and Caylee notg being there its just empty.
KC: i know......uhm.....
GA: it gets harder and harder each day, Case.
KC:trust me i know. each day gets longer. what, its wednesday? so its been two weeks.
GA:i just want you to know the outpouring of friends and just total... people we've never met before in our lives that are...they're touched by everything, you know? and everyones focus is you know , for Caylee and that just says so much about...about her.
KC: yeah. i just wish that , you know, outside our family and our friends and our community that there was more people, you know more people that are directly involved with the Case. that their focus is was Caylee
GA: well, thats what.. we try to keep everyone, you know, in that particular mindset, you know. its, you know, tonns of questions about you but we try to redirect that to finding our granddaughter, your daughter, so..
KC: oh, i know, i know that thats your focus... and i'm glad
GA: so i just want you to know that we're not going in any direction , its a direction to find her... you know...we just need as much help as we can get
KC: oh absolutely. and you know that i'm gonna give you whatever help i CAn from where i'm at, considering the situation, so
GA: good .people from, you know, from the east side of town, the west side of town, the north , south... miles and miles away, are calling,so our
KC: dad.. lee was telling me about the charities and stuff that your directly involved with uhm...
GA: theres a lot of [uninteligible]. this week you know up in daytona
KC: thats something he was telling me about, yeah.
GA: theres a [rescue?] organistaion that wants to do a benefit for her, you know,for the other missing children, you know
KC: that great.
GA: its outpouring of something....here mom want to talk [passes phone to cindy]
KC: ok....hey![to CA]
CA: hey sweetie. people maGAzine's doing a feature on missing children
KC: uha
CA: and Caylees gonna be on the cover on friday.
KC: ok yeah i remember you had said something about that
CA: yeah well, it was finalised, we havent seen it yet but he said its comin out on friday.
KC: ye-ah
CA: so that'll hit alot of news stands and get her picture out in places that we might not be able to do
KC: good, i mean. huh!...god!.....everyday i just
CA: is there any....?
KC: mom! we're .... we're not talking...we cant!
CA: no, no, no, no, no, i knowthat part. . im just wondering if theres anythng else you want me to tell Caylee cause everybody s, you know i always get an opportunity to speak to the media. isthere anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything?
KC: just tell her that i love 'er andthat i miss her i means thats a constant
~ long pause~
KC: ahhhhh. i'm being as strong as i can considering the situation. its just hard.its just very hard [voice breaking + sniffing]
CA: i know. i can understand
KC: god. i just wanna go home!![really crying]everyday i wake up, i'm just hoping and praying that i get to go home.[sniff] i just wanna be with you guys and i just wanna help find her....because i feel a little hopeless, a little helpless here, i mean, honestly, not really hopeless, but more helpless because i cant do anything from where i'm at
CA: is there anything i can do for you that would make you feel like your doing something? is there anything special you want me to do......on your behalf?
KC: just keep doing what youre doing. i mean i heard that you were on larry king last night. i'm sure that went..... well. he's a very insightful person [sniff]
CA: holly went on nancy grace last night.
KC: did she?
CA: yes, i could hear, she was in the room next to me
KC:[laughs]
CA: she' was tough. she's a tough lady. she loves you. she loves you very much.
KC: i know she does. she always has. i know that[high pitch]
CA: when i got a chance to talk to lee the other day he was telling me about everybody's involvment, especially holly and fred and you know that much in our community . which you know it was good because theyre our extended family
CA: annie...annie and corey and becky and just everyones helping out.
KC: good.
CA: doing everything that they can. i got to see lauren the other night/
KC: did you? how was she?
CA: at the house.
KC; what...do you know what the baby is?
CA: its a boy. shes gonna have a boy
KC: heh
CA:i gave her belly a little kiss [KC starts crying] i got a CArd from her and andy for you....i CAn get em to you. we'll get em to you ok?
KC: yeah i knew she was gonna have a boy. i just ,could feel it. i had a dream about her the other night
CA: she's, she's starting to show. she's really cute.
KC: oh, man i want to see her [still sniffing]
CA: she loves you very much
KC: i know [crying]
CA:she loves you very much
~ KC crying ~
CA: everybody, uhm, everybody is helpin'. in their own way. chris corsuss stopped by last night
KC: did he?
CA: to tell you that he loves you...
KC: those are my big brothers, i know [sniff]
CA: so....
KC: every day i'm worried about grandma. how's she?
CA: uhm...
KC: is there any change?
CA: i havent had a chance to talk to her. i've emailed her. its very hard casey, uhm...
KC: i know
CA: its very emotional, and, and its just very hard. and i just i know that uncle dans taking could care of her
KC: oh, uncle dans been up. ok.
CA: i believe so...
KC:[sniff] ohhhhh, god!......its just....my heart is aching, because i just wanna be back with our family...huh. at least in my gut, every day,stronger and stronger . i know we're gonna see Caylee. i know she's coming home. i can feel it.
CA: i want her home now.
KC: i want you to know that. i know i want her home now
CA: i want her home so we can celebrate her third birthday....
KC. i know.
CA: as a family again
KC:i know. uhh....everyday i can feel it mom. i know that i'm gonna be home with you guys . i know she's gonna be home with us....huh...everyone just has to keep that faith beCAuse mines growing stronger every day [sniff]
CA: have you been to speak with a pastor, or minister or anything?
KC:uhm, [laughs], its kinda funny. one day last week i was supposed to be going to see jose. normally we meet in one of the rooms, its just outside our dorms....and, theres two people sitting at this table where thaey sat me down, and i'm thinking, 'this isnt my attorney, coincidently, it was, you know the two people that work here for the church and all of that and we sat down and had a little conversation while we were waiting to get stuff sorted out, to find outwhere jose was, and he told me a little story, uhm. at that moment i mean, it was exactly what i needed. it lifted my heart. it lifted my spirit.
CA: what was the story ? CAn you share it?
KC ...yeah, uhm, he was telling me that one night you know he went to bed and he had a very heavy heart and couldnt figure out why. and he woke up in the middle of the night and he was in the closet, and just waking up in the closet and not knowing how he got there, or why he got there, and just started laughing, and just kept laughing, and the more he laughed he said was cracking himself up to the point where he forgot what was ailing him. what was bothering him at that time and his heart lifted. and it made him feel better and we're just in there having a great laugh about it. and you know he even told me that laughter is one of those things that can get you out of whatever you're feeling...even at your lowest point.
CA: well laughter...
KC: and its true.
CA:is just as therapeutic as crying
KC: oh of course.
CA: andyou know...its...
KC : its neccessary.
CA: you know,you cant feel guilty for laughing,you cant feel guilty for having, you know, thoughts of other things. i know your consumed with Caylee...you know...
KC: but i do need to keep myself distracted, and that night, it was just before i saw jose, i mean it happened for that reason. i mean i everything happens for a resason i know that, i was talking to a couple of people about that yesterday. every that i ended up talking to...i mean yesterday was the most nuts morning you can believe. i mean they woke me up at 4.30 to take me to the courthouse which i knew i didnt have to be there until the afternoon, and i'm thinking why are they getting me four and a half hours earlier than they did last time.
CA: well, they just wanted to keep you out of everybodys.....
KC:no, no, no, no, no. not even! they though thought that i had morning, so i'm walked down with another person, they put her in holding, whatever and i take my first ride over to the courthouse and we arrive at like 6:45, and.....theres no room for me, because i have to be by myself, aGAin, and so they sent me back here. and i came back here, until you know, about 9-9:30, in the meantime witnessed something else that was just.... very enlightening to me ,throughout the morning............and get back to the courthouse again and its the same people that were there the prior week when we had gone for the bond hearing. so they knew me by name.uhm kinda made me smile-made me laugh. Cause it was a couple of really nice ladies that took CAre of me, in a sense
CA: right, right.
KC:uhm ,(u/i) of yesterday , i kind of expected that, so it didnt bother me so much . i just....was kinda worried about ..obviously our conversations, so we have to keep everything as quiet as possible. which is fine, i'd rather talk about other stuff as much as we can anyway. uhm...had a little laugh about that with the two guys that walked me back out because one of them was the same guy from the week before, and it was like, de jeau vous, you know within all of that time, and it just made me smile, made me laugh. seeing you guys both there yesterday...i know i was supposed to see you both in the morning- that made me even happier to see you both, to hear dad, in person...to see you in person, even though we didnt get a chance to, to speak
CA: right
KC: but that felt....so much better in my heart [voice breaking] because at least then you werent far away, right now,you know now theres so much between us...and yesterday ...that made me feel better. you know and coming back here i rode on one of their vans 3 times yesterday, so i got a little field trip, so it was kind of nice to be out of this atmosphere and be gone all day. granted i only had the hours of sleep that night or going into it, just because of things going on here. but i mean, in a way it was kind of uplifting. it just kinda put alot of stuff back into perspective. not that my perspective's been fautered or has wavered in any sense, but it just , it kinda showed me some things about myself, about you know, whats going on in the world outside, which is what i needed.
CA: right
KC:uhm, you know and again,to see you both was probably the most important thing of the day....so. i'm glad you guys got a chance to come. i know you guys probably didnt hear about the court until last minute which was, i hadnt either.
CA: we didnt hear about it until we were here waiting for our, waiting for you yesterday, and they said you were already been taken out of ther.
KC:uhum
CA:we were sitting here at an empty screen..
KC:[laughs]
CA: wondering where you were at, so
KC: where...yeah, well i was really hoping that someone would relay the message to you. and again, i didnt even know about it until 10:30 the night before.
CA: right
KC: so it was kind of a hey real quick we're going to court tomorrow. so i'm thinking , alright. great, at least i got a chance to showerethe night before [laughs].........uhm, so.......anyway...
CA: well your dads over here shakin wanting to talk to you so...
KC: i know he is. i saw you pushing his hand [laughs]
CA: well because you were telling me a story and i wanted you to be able to do that
KC: i know. i appreciate it [laughs]
CA: ok honey, hold on
KC: ok.
GA: grandma and grandpa anthony send their best to you
KC: how are they doin?
GA:ah, theyre not doing too well. grandpa has, ah...he's had some episodes and has had to take a lot of extra medication
KC: ok
GA: and she's almost had to, i call, i guess the paramedics
KC: huhhhhh
GA: for the last two or three days almost everyday
KC: aha.
GA: so i just wanted to let you know that this is kinda taking a toll on them
KC: [sharp intake of breath, or big sniff]
GA: you know they want the best for you and they want the little girl to come back. and theyre apologising , because , you know, they felt like they werent around enough for her and stuff
KC: [laughs]
GA: and i've explained to them , you know its that.. that they got , you know to see her, you know when they physically could.
KC: ye-ah exactly they got to spend time with her. it's not like they just saw her once when she was a baby. i mean they got to see her even more interactively as shes gotten older.
GA:well you know , anytime i even talk to them, before all this stuff happened, they always ask, you know number one is just , you know, ' hows Cylee' , then hows casey... hows mom?
KC: ye-ah
GA:hows lee? you know there very many times when they never even ask about me you know?
KC:ha
GA: they were always concerned about you know, you and her.
KC: oh, i know. i mean....
GA: and it was genuine
KC: uh, of course ....... huhhhhhhhhh!
GA: but, you know, i just want you to know that..that we, we miss you a lot
KC: i know. i miss you guys too [siffing]. trust me...you have... you have no idea...
GA: i wish i couldve been a better dad and a better grandpa
KC: dad....god, i CAnt say this enough to you. you've done everything that you possibly can and you have been the best father, and by far the best grandfather, that i have ever met. i'm gonna say that, and i mean that with all my heart. [sniff]. dont for a second think otherwise, because i wont let cause thats not the case. you and mom have always done everything you ever CAn to be the best parents, and especiallyt the best grandparents.....so.
GA:......the house you know that we live at- she lives at. you know that you guys' home
KC: and we're coming home [sniff] and we're all gonna be back there. we're all gonna be home together.
GA: ok
KC: you guys just need to...to have strong faith....just keep believing that because its gonna happen. i can feel it. i was telling mom that. i mean, i can feel it more everyday. so i dont want, you know, you guys not to eat, not to sleep. i want...take care of mom please. she needs to eat. she keeps taking about me getting too skinny and you know i've always been this way. she needs to take care of herself. i dont want to see anything happen to anybody
GA: well, you know
KC: especially because of this.
GA: well, you know it goes both ways i mean i'm eating food i never eaten or even thought of eating before
KC: [laughs]
GA : still thats just ..thats nutrition .you just gotta keep your thoughts strong
KC: oh i have been, dad, i have been
GA:you gotta have faith in everything... ...thats... all this is just gonna sort itself out ,its gonna be hard but i want you to realise is, that the way things are going is, is... that how the pictures are painted is
...its a little bit tough, you know, so.....
KC: i dont want to say its par for the course, but again, i mean it kinda is what it is at the moment, and theres only so much that we can all do. i just want you guys to keep your focus where its been..thats where its important.
GA:that..that..that focus is more than100%. not only from us, but people...like i said ,we havent even met before...just friends, and its just really something you know? its just been just fantastic.
KC: well that just shows that the media that although they're portraying something , people will within their own strong mind believe otherwise. know otherwise. and thats whats important
~ continues next post ~
**Disclaimer: This is my own interpretation of the conversations. It may not be an accurate representation of what was actually said.**
July 30th visit with George and Cindy video 1:
july 30th visit with george and cindy
CA: ???????
[ KC grinning as she sits down and sees the a's]
KC:this is not gonna be easy [to herself] hehehe
CA:goodmorning honey
KC: goodmorning [singsongy]
CA: how are you doing?
KC: good. i'm a little tired but good.
CA: Can you see our shirts?
KC: uhm.yeah Can you..Can dad to stand up and model again
CA: stand up dad [to GA] CAn you see her?
KC: oh wow thats good.[underwhelmed]yeah. thats really good.
CA: annie had those done
KC: annie had those done? she's awesome
CA:annie had these done, isnt she awesome?
KC: tell annie thankyou . yeah. tell her thankyou
CA: we just got em last night
KC: cool [shrugging shoulders]
KC: so...... [uncomfortable pause]huuuuh...[big sigh]
CA: whats going on baby?
KC: nothin. uhm, didnt get to sleep really the night before so i was catching up on that last night. i think i passed out at like, 7:30. woke up maybe twice in the middle of the night, passed back out and woke up at5:15, 5:20, when breakfast CAme thismorning. so i at least got a good sleep last night.
CA: thats goood.[gritting teeth]
KC: so i'm still a little tired. [laughs]uhm......oooohhhh
CA: it was good to see you yesterday [flat]
KC: yeah you too [ high pitch] i mean i know i missed our visit in the morning but at least i got a chance to see you in person which you know is a little bit better anyway, so........hows dad doin'?
CA: he's ok. i'll let you say hi to him hun.
KC: ok
GA: hey beautiful.its papa jo
KC: hi! [v. high pitch]
GA: how you doing
KC: i'm good [laughs]
GA: thats good. i'm so glad to...to hear your voice
KC: yeah..i know- likewise.
GA: and to see you right now...and....you know it makes me feel very good.so even the chance to see you yesterday even for a brief moment is just a little ways but i want you to know i love you and i miss you.
KC: oh, i know, i love you too [high pitch]
GA:the house..the house is very quiet
KC:[laughs]
GA:you know with you not being there and Caylee notg being there its just empty.
KC: i know......uhm.....
GA: it gets harder and harder each day, Case.
KC:trust me i know. each day gets longer. what, its wednesday? so its been two weeks.
GA:i just want you to know the outpouring of friends and just total... people we've never met before in our lives that are...they're touched by everything, you know? and everyones focus is you know , for Caylee and that just says so much about...about her.
KC: yeah. i just wish that , you know, outside our family and our friends and our community that there was more people, you know more people that are directly involved with the Case. that their focus is was Caylee
GA: well, thats what.. we try to keep everyone, you know, in that particular mindset, you know. its, you know, tonns of questions about you but we try to redirect that to finding our granddaughter, your daughter, so..
KC: oh, i know, i know that thats your focus... and i'm glad
GA: so i just want you to know that we're not going in any direction , its a direction to find her... you know...we just need as much help as we can get
KC: oh absolutely. and you know that i'm gonna give you whatever help i CAn from where i'm at, considering the situation, so
GA: good .people from, you know, from the east side of town, the west side of town, the north , south... miles and miles away, are calling,so our
KC: dad.. lee was telling me about the charities and stuff that your directly involved with uhm...
GA: theres a lot of [uninteligible]. this week you know up in daytona
KC: thats something he was telling me about, yeah.
GA: theres a [rescue?] organistaion that wants to do a benefit for her, you know,for the other missing children, you know
KC: that great.
GA: its outpouring of something....here mom want to talk [passes phone to cindy]
KC: ok....hey![to CA]
CA: hey sweetie. people maGAzine's doing a feature on missing children
KC: uha
CA: and Caylees gonna be on the cover on friday.
KC: ok yeah i remember you had said something about that
CA: yeah well, it was finalised, we havent seen it yet but he said its comin out on friday.
KC: ye-ah
CA: so that'll hit alot of news stands and get her picture out in places that we might not be able to do
KC: good, i mean. huh!...god!.....everyday i just
CA: is there any....?
KC: mom! we're .... we're not talking...we cant!
CA: no, no, no, no, no, i knowthat part. . im just wondering if theres anythng else you want me to tell Caylee cause everybody s, you know i always get an opportunity to speak to the media. isthere anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything?
KC: just tell her that i love 'er andthat i miss her i means thats a constant
~ long pause~
KC: ahhhhh. i'm being as strong as i can considering the situation. its just hard.its just very hard [voice breaking + sniffing]
CA: i know. i can understand
KC: god. i just wanna go home!![really crying]everyday i wake up, i'm just hoping and praying that i get to go home.[sniff] i just wanna be with you guys and i just wanna help find her....because i feel a little hopeless, a little helpless here, i mean, honestly, not really hopeless, but more helpless because i cant do anything from where i'm at
CA: is there anything i can do for you that would make you feel like your doing something? is there anything special you want me to do......on your behalf?
KC: just keep doing what youre doing. i mean i heard that you were on larry king last night. i'm sure that went..... well. he's a very insightful person [sniff]
CA: holly went on nancy grace last night.
KC: did she?
CA: yes, i could hear, she was in the room next to me
KC:[laughs]
CA: she' was tough. she's a tough lady. she loves you. she loves you very much.
KC: i know she does. she always has. i know that[high pitch]
CA: when i got a chance to talk to lee the other day he was telling me about everybody's involvment, especially holly and fred and you know that much in our community . which you know it was good because theyre our extended family
CA: annie...annie and corey and becky and just everyones helping out.
KC: good.
CA: doing everything that they can. i got to see lauren the other night/
KC: did you? how was she?
CA: at the house.
KC; what...do you know what the baby is?
CA: its a boy. shes gonna have a boy
KC: heh
CA:i gave her belly a little kiss [KC starts crying] i got a CArd from her and andy for you....i CAn get em to you. we'll get em to you ok?
KC: yeah i knew she was gonna have a boy. i just ,could feel it. i had a dream about her the other night
CA: she's, she's starting to show. she's really cute.
KC: oh, man i want to see her [still sniffing]
CA: she loves you very much
KC: i know [crying]
CA:she loves you very much
~ KC crying ~
CA: everybody, uhm, everybody is helpin'. in their own way. chris corsuss stopped by last night
KC: did he?
CA: to tell you that he loves you...
KC: those are my big brothers, i know [sniff]
CA: so....
KC: every day i'm worried about grandma. how's she?
CA: uhm...
KC: is there any change?
CA: i havent had a chance to talk to her. i've emailed her. its very hard casey, uhm...
KC: i know
CA: its very emotional, and, and its just very hard. and i just i know that uncle dans taking could care of her
KC: oh, uncle dans been up. ok.
CA: i believe so...
KC:[sniff] ohhhhh, god!......its just....my heart is aching, because i just wanna be back with our family...huh. at least in my gut, every day,stronger and stronger . i know we're gonna see Caylee. i know she's coming home. i can feel it.
CA: i want her home now.
KC: i want you to know that. i know i want her home now
CA: i want her home so we can celebrate her third birthday....
KC. i know.
CA: as a family again
KC:i know. uhh....everyday i can feel it mom. i know that i'm gonna be home with you guys . i know she's gonna be home with us....huh...everyone just has to keep that faith beCAuse mines growing stronger every day [sniff]
CA: have you been to speak with a pastor, or minister or anything?
KC:uhm, [laughs], its kinda funny. one day last week i was supposed to be going to see jose. normally we meet in one of the rooms, its just outside our dorms....and, theres two people sitting at this table where thaey sat me down, and i'm thinking, 'this isnt my attorney, coincidently, it was, you know the two people that work here for the church and all of that and we sat down and had a little conversation while we were waiting to get stuff sorted out, to find outwhere jose was, and he told me a little story, uhm. at that moment i mean, it was exactly what i needed. it lifted my heart. it lifted my spirit.
CA: what was the story ? CAn you share it?
KC ...yeah, uhm, he was telling me that one night you know he went to bed and he had a very heavy heart and couldnt figure out why. and he woke up in the middle of the night and he was in the closet, and just waking up in the closet and not knowing how he got there, or why he got there, and just started laughing, and just kept laughing, and the more he laughed he said was cracking himself up to the point where he forgot what was ailing him. what was bothering him at that time and his heart lifted. and it made him feel better and we're just in there having a great laugh about it. and you know he even told me that laughter is one of those things that can get you out of whatever you're feeling...even at your lowest point.
CA: well laughter...
KC: and its true.
CA:is just as therapeutic as crying
KC: oh of course.
CA: andyou know...its...
KC : its neccessary.
CA: you know,you cant feel guilty for laughing,you cant feel guilty for having, you know, thoughts of other things. i know your consumed with Caylee...you know...
KC: but i do need to keep myself distracted, and that night, it was just before i saw jose, i mean it happened for that reason. i mean i everything happens for a resason i know that, i was talking to a couple of people about that yesterday. every that i ended up talking to...i mean yesterday was the most nuts morning you can believe. i mean they woke me up at 4.30 to take me to the courthouse which i knew i didnt have to be there until the afternoon, and i'm thinking why are they getting me four and a half hours earlier than they did last time.
CA: well, they just wanted to keep you out of everybodys.....
KC:no, no, no, no, no. not even! they though thought that i had morning, so i'm walked down with another person, they put her in holding, whatever and i take my first ride over to the courthouse and we arrive at like 6:45, and.....theres no room for me, because i have to be by myself, aGAin, and so they sent me back here. and i came back here, until you know, about 9-9:30, in the meantime witnessed something else that was just.... very enlightening to me ,throughout the morning............and get back to the courthouse again and its the same people that were there the prior week when we had gone for the bond hearing. so they knew me by name.uhm kinda made me smile-made me laugh. Cause it was a couple of really nice ladies that took CAre of me, in a sense
CA: right, right.
KC:uhm ,(u/i) of yesterday , i kind of expected that, so it didnt bother me so much . i just....was kinda worried about ..obviously our conversations, so we have to keep everything as quiet as possible. which is fine, i'd rather talk about other stuff as much as we can anyway. uhm...had a little laugh about that with the two guys that walked me back out because one of them was the same guy from the week before, and it was like, de jeau vous, you know within all of that time, and it just made me smile, made me laugh. seeing you guys both there yesterday...i know i was supposed to see you both in the morning- that made me even happier to see you both, to hear dad, in person...to see you in person, even though we didnt get a chance to, to speak
CA: right
KC: but that felt....so much better in my heart [voice breaking] because at least then you werent far away, right now,you know now theres so much between us...and yesterday ...that made me feel better. you know and coming back here i rode on one of their vans 3 times yesterday, so i got a little field trip, so it was kind of nice to be out of this atmosphere and be gone all day. granted i only had the hours of sleep that night or going into it, just because of things going on here. but i mean, in a way it was kind of uplifting. it just kinda put alot of stuff back into perspective. not that my perspective's been fautered or has wavered in any sense, but it just , it kinda showed me some things about myself, about you know, whats going on in the world outside, which is what i needed.
CA: right
KC:uhm, you know and again,to see you both was probably the most important thing of the day....so. i'm glad you guys got a chance to come. i know you guys probably didnt hear about the court until last minute which was, i hadnt either.
CA: we didnt hear about it until we were here waiting for our, waiting for you yesterday, and they said you were already been taken out of ther.
KC:uhum
CA:we were sitting here at an empty screen..
KC:[laughs]
CA: wondering where you were at, so
KC: where...yeah, well i was really hoping that someone would relay the message to you. and again, i didnt even know about it until 10:30 the night before.
CA: right
KC: so it was kind of a hey real quick we're going to court tomorrow. so i'm thinking , alright. great, at least i got a chance to showerethe night before [laughs].........uhm, so.......anyway...
CA: well your dads over here shakin wanting to talk to you so...
KC: i know he is. i saw you pushing his hand [laughs]
CA: well because you were telling me a story and i wanted you to be able to do that
KC: i know. i appreciate it [laughs]
CA: ok honey, hold on
KC: ok.
GA: grandma and grandpa anthony send their best to you
KC: how are they doin?
GA:ah, theyre not doing too well. grandpa has, ah...he's had some episodes and has had to take a lot of extra medication
KC: ok
GA: and she's almost had to, i call, i guess the paramedics
KC: huhhhhh
GA: for the last two or three days almost everyday
KC: aha.
GA: so i just wanted to let you know that this is kinda taking a toll on them
KC: [sharp intake of breath, or big sniff]
GA: you know they want the best for you and they want the little girl to come back. and theyre apologising , because , you know, they felt like they werent around enough for her and stuff
KC: [laughs]
GA: and i've explained to them , you know its that.. that they got , you know to see her, you know when they physically could.
KC: ye-ah exactly they got to spend time with her. it's not like they just saw her once when she was a baby. i mean they got to see her even more interactively as shes gotten older.
GA:well you know , anytime i even talk to them, before all this stuff happened, they always ask, you know number one is just , you know, ' hows Cylee' , then hows casey... hows mom?
KC: ye-ah
GA:hows lee? you know there very many times when they never even ask about me you know?
KC:ha
GA: they were always concerned about you know, you and her.
KC: oh, i know. i mean....
GA: and it was genuine
KC: uh, of course ....... huhhhhhhhhh!
GA: but, you know, i just want you to know that..that we, we miss you a lot
KC: i know. i miss you guys too [siffing]. trust me...you have... you have no idea...
GA: i wish i couldve been a better dad and a better grandpa
KC: dad....god, i CAnt say this enough to you. you've done everything that you possibly can and you have been the best father, and by far the best grandfather, that i have ever met. i'm gonna say that, and i mean that with all my heart. [sniff]. dont for a second think otherwise, because i wont let cause thats not the case. you and mom have always done everything you ever CAn to be the best parents, and especiallyt the best grandparents.....so.
GA:......the house you know that we live at- she lives at. you know that you guys' home
KC: and we're coming home [sniff] and we're all gonna be back there. we're all gonna be home together.
GA: ok
KC: you guys just need to...to have strong faith....just keep believing that because its gonna happen. i can feel it. i was telling mom that. i mean, i can feel it more everyday. so i dont want, you know, you guys not to eat, not to sleep. i want...take care of mom please. she needs to eat. she keeps taking about me getting too skinny and you know i've always been this way. she needs to take care of herself. i dont want to see anything happen to anybody
GA: well, you know
KC: especially because of this.
GA: well, you know it goes both ways i mean i'm eating food i never eaten or even thought of eating before
KC: [laughs]
GA : still thats just ..thats nutrition .you just gotta keep your thoughts strong
KC: oh i have been, dad, i have been
GA:you gotta have faith in everything... ...thats... all this is just gonna sort itself out ,its gonna be hard but i want you to realise is, that the way things are going is, is... that how the pictures are painted is
...its a little bit tough, you know, so.....
KC: i dont want to say its par for the course, but again, i mean it kinda is what it is at the moment, and theres only so much that we can all do. i just want you guys to keep your focus where its been..thats where its important.
GA:that..that..that focus is more than100%. not only from us, but people...like i said ,we havent even met before...just friends, and its just really something you know? its just been just fantastic.
KC: well that just shows that the media that although they're portraying something , people will within their own strong mind believe otherwise. know otherwise. and thats whats important
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