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    Did CA purposely give LE the wrong pants?

    This is the first time I've started a thread so hopefully I'm not breaking any rules.

    In the Doc Dump: http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf

    On page 20-21, it's talking about articles of clothing removed.

    Using ALS (Alternative light source) to find evidence it's noted that suspected stain are on ALL items removed (#2-11) EXCEPT #1, which are the pair of pants CA handed to them when they asked for the clothing she wore!!!!

    Suspicious if you ask me. Were those grey pants new perhaps? Maybe that's what's on the JCPenney receipt... she purchased them new and placed them in the closet?

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    Interesting. Would washing get rid of evidence completely, and it not show using ALS?

    2nd question would be, is "Zinc" brand name carried by JCPenney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capri View Post
    Interesting. Would washing get rid of evidence completely, and it not show using ALS?
    I don't believe so. From watching FF I've seen criminals try to wipe up blood with bleach and the blood will still show up with luminol.

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    IMO, Casey wasn't seen wearing those grey pants since GA obviously didn't see the girls on 6-16. Maybe CA offered up the grey pants instead of the ones that were actually in the car stained? Kinda reminds me of the excuse CA used for not giving LE Caylee's hairbrush. KWIM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capri View Post
    Interesting. Would washing get rid of evidence completely, and it not show using ALS?

    2nd question would be, is "Zinc" brand name carried by JCPenney?
    A quick Google shows me that Target, Dillard's, Macy's and Nordstrom's all carry Zinc brand pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    IMO, Casey wasn't seen wearing those grey pants since GA obviously didn't see the girls on 6-16. Maybe CA offered up the grey pants instead of the ones that were actually in the car stained? Kinda reminds me of the excuse CA used for not giving LE Caylee's hairbrush. KWIM?
    CA made a big deal of those pants in the media, too. We know CA's credibility is...uhm....questionable, with not giving the hairbrush. If she can give an alternate hairbrush, she could definitely give different pants. Luckily, they have quite a few other items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
    I don't believe so. From watching FF I've seen criminals try to wipe up blood with bleach and the blood will still show up with luminol.
    Ah, that's what I get for reading too fast, not thinking luminol. Duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by my_tee_mouse View Post
    A quick Google shows me that Target, Dillard's, Macy's and Nordstrom's all carry Zinc brand pants.
    Well we know Casey went shopping at Target a few times after Caylee went missing.
    Did we notice if she purchased any new pants on those target video's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
    I don't believe so. From watching FF I've seen criminals try to wipe up blood with bleach and the blood will still show up with luminol.
    problem is, bleach glows under luminol, like blood. so does horseradish.


    I think cindy and george were trying hard to believe the "last time george saw them". not necessarily deliberate. just wishful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnajk View Post
    This is the first time I've started a thread so hopefully I'm not breaking any rules.

    In the Doc Dump: http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf

    On page 20-21, it's talking about articles of clothing removed.

    Using ALS (Alternative light source) to find evidence it's noted that suspected stain are on ALL items removed (#2-11) EXCEPT #1, which are the pair of pants CA handed to them when they asked for the clothing she wore!!!!

    Suspicious if you ask me. Were those grey pants new perhaps? Maybe that's what's on the JCPenney receipt... she purchased them new and placed them in the closet?

    I don't believe we know whether the grey pants that Cindy found in the trunk of Casey car were new or not, but we know Cindy said she washed them because they smelled of rotten pizza.

    I have heard conflicting statements from forensic experts on air saying: Yes all evidence would be washed away and some evidence could still be there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    I don't believe we know whether the grey pants that Cindy found in the trunk of Casey car were new or not, but we know Cindy said she washed them because they smelled of rotten pizza.

    I have heard conflicting statements from forensic experts on air saying: Yes all evidence would be washed away and some evidence could still be there.
    But the rest of the clothes had stains on them. Either the other clothes were dirty, or Ca's washer only washed one pair of pants so well that they had no stains on the whatsoever. The gray pants having no stains at all is what sticks out, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Cindy said she washed them because they smelled of rotten pizza.

    Specifically, she said they "smelled like the car".

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    Here is a pic of KC turning herself in after her bond was revoked. I could be way wrong, but given the description by George attesting to the last day he saw KC, I have thought that these were the same pants that Cindy washed from the car . I recall thinking "how brazen", not only wearing the pants, but also wearing the sunglasses that she purchased with Amy's money.
    Feel free to correct me if I'm "out to lunch" here.

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    I think she washed them because they smelled like the car.

    On page 9 of the supplemental report, Cindy makes the statement to her co-workers that the car smells like a dead body.
    YOU are the ring-master of your own circus.

    JMOO

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    If the Anthonys were covering up evidence, why would they tell LE anything about the grey pants at all, knowing CA had already innocently washed them (in her statement to LE she said they smelled of smoke). The only reason LE knew of the pants was because GA told them that's what he noticed Casey was wearing.

    At the time it was NOT the last Caylee sighting or indication Caylee was alive ....Jesse was "100% certain" he heard Caylee on June 24th.

    It wasn't until early August when Jesse suddenly became "uncertain" and the significance of GAs "last sighting" on July 16th became clear.

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