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A red heart was drawn on the palm of her left hand.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/it_5.html

With details that are both graphic and heartbreaking, new court documents released Wednesday reveal that the body of toddler Caylee Anthony was bound by duct tape that had a heart-shaped sticker placed on it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20253947,00.html

It certainly speaks volumes. How horrible for JonBenet and Caylee knowing that the one person they should be able to trust and to protect them.

Does it make a "mommy" feel better to put a heart on their child?
 
arielilane said:
A red heart was drawn on the palm of her left hand.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/it_5.html

With details that are both graphic and heartbreaking, new court documents released Wednesday reveal that the body of toddler Caylee Anthony was bound by duct tape that had a heart-shaped sticker placed on it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20253947,00.html

It certainly speaks volumes. How horrible for JonBenet and Caylee knowing that the one person they should be able to trust and to protect them.
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Isn't THAT just a coincidence.
 
arielilane said:
A red heart was drawn on the palm of her left hand.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/it_5.html

With details that are both graphic and heartbreaking, new court documents released Wednesday reveal that the body of toddler Caylee Anthony was bound by duct tape that had a heart-shaped sticker placed on it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20253947,00.html

It certainly speaks volumes. How horrible for JonBenet and Caylee knowing that the one person they should be able to trust and to protect them.

Does it make a "mommy" feel better to put a heart on their child?
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Even though I believe that PR had something to do with the death of
her daughter, JB, I do not believe that she is the one that drew the heart on JB's hand. It was too faded. But, I do believe that KC placed the sticker heart over the duct tape on little Caylee's mouth.
 
Ames said:
Even though I believe that PR had something to do with the death of
her daughter, JB, I do not believe that she is the one that drew the heart on JB's hand. It was too faded. But, I do believe that KC placed the sticker heart over the duct tape on little Caylee's mouth.
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But could of PR drew the heart days before JB death???? That would be the fade?
 
Ames said:
Even though I believe that PR had something to do with the death of
her daughter, JB, I do not believe that she is the one that drew the heart on JB's hand. It was too faded. But, I do believe that KC placed the sticker heart over the duct tape on little Caylee's mouth.
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But could of PR drew the heart days before JB death???? That would be the fade? and mouth duct tape?
 
Ames said:
Even though I believe that PR had something to do with the death of
her daughter, JB, I do not believe that she is the one that drew the heart on JB's hand. It was too faded. But, I do believe that KC placed the sticker heart over the duct tape on little Caylee's mouth.
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But could of PR drew the heart days before JB death???? That would be the fade? and mouth duct tape?
 
Ames said:
Even though I believe that PR had something to do with the death of
her daughter, JB, I do not believe that she is the one that drew the heart on JB's hand. It was too faded. But, I do believe that KC placed the sticker heart over the duct tape on little Caylee's mouth.
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But could of PR drew the heart days before JB death???? That would be the fade? and mouth duct tape?
 
passionflower said:
But could of PR drew the heart days before JB death???? That would be the fade? and mouth duct tape?
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She could have. PR SAW that heart, and described it as well-drawn. She then denied having seen it and said she only READ about it. Of course, she also said she didn't want to read anything about her daughters death.
I don't understand what you mean about the duct tape. That was put on an UNCONSCIOUS JBR that night.
 
It's very possible it was put on her hand before she went to bed, by her mother.
 
Steely Dan said:
It's very possible it was put on her hand before she went to bed, by her mother.
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Maybe, but I highly doubt it. And if you look at the "heart" on her hand, with it enlarged...it looks more like a smiley face....like this...= ) but, only turned right side up. Regardless, it looked like it was drawn by a child. IMO the red heart, (or imo..a smiley face) has nothing to do with her murder. When my daughter was 6, she used to draw on herself all the time. Hearts, smiley faces..etc...she is 7 now, and she still does it. I believe that JB's heart on her hand was a red herring. IMO...Patsy DID see it, even though she recanted that statement later. I believe that she recanted, because she wanted investigators to believe that the "intruder" did it.

http://zyberzoom.com/JonBenet.html

Scroll down to the "heart" on her hand and enlarge. It looks absolutely NOTHING like a heart...IMO
 
Ames said:
Maybe, but I highly doubt it. And if you look at the "heart" on her hand, with it enlarged...it looks more like a smiley face....like this...= ) but, only turned right side up. Regardless, it looked like it was drawn by a child. IMO the red heart, (or imo..a smiley face) has nothing to do with her murder. When my daughter was 6, she used to draw on herself all the time. Hearts, smiley faces..etc...she is 7 now, and she still does it. I believe that JB's heart on her hand was a red herring. IMO...Patsy DID see it, even though she recanted that statement later. I believe that she recanted, because she wanted investigators to believe that the "intruder" did it.

http://zyberzoom.com/JonBenet.html

Scroll down to the "heart" on her hand and enlarge. It looks absolutely NOTHING like a heart...IMO
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Yeah, it does look like a kid drawing a heart on themselves.
 
Steely Dan said:
Yeah, it does look like a kid drawing a heart on themselves.
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So whether it be a heart or a smiley face...it looks kid drawn. I just don't think that Patsy drew it. I could be wrong...goodness knows it wouldn't be the first time. :)
 
And yes, kids do draw on themselves. It would be a very "little girl" thing to do- draw hearts on their hands or each other's hands.
 
arielilane said:
A red heart was drawn on the palm of her left hand.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/it_5.html

With details that are both graphic and heartbreaking, new court documents released Wednesday reveal that the body of toddler Caylee Anthony was bound by duct tape that had a heart-shaped sticker placed on it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20253947,00.html

It certainly speaks volumes. How horrible for JonBenet and Caylee knowing that the one person they should be able to trust and to protect them.

Does it make a "mommy" feel better to put a heart on their child?
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So glad you put "mommy" in quotes. In my opinion, neither of these women were true mommies. Mommies love their children more than themselves.
 
Wow you guys believe Patsy killed JB? How do you explain the unidenitifed DNA found and pubic hair?
 
Mendara said:
Wow you guys believe Patsy killed JB? How do you explain the unidenitifed DNA found and pubic hair?
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No pubic hair was found. You are incorrect about that. A hair was found, but it wasn't a pubic hair, and it belonged to Patsy, which in and of itself proves nothing, considering it was found on a blanket, that had come from the Ramsey's own dryer, that was wrapped around JB. Fibers from Patsy's jacket was found entwined in the garrotte, on the UNDERSIDE of the duct tape, and also in the paint tote. The unidentified DNA could have come from anywhere, for example...her sitting on a toilet, and later transference. The long johns were the only thing tested. Why didn't they test the blanket that she was wrapped in, the paintbrush handle in the garrotte, just for example? Just so you know, there is "a warehouse full of evidence that hasn't been tested", according to the show 48 Hours. They said this when they did a show about the tenth anniversary of JB's death. We, PDI's believe that the unidentified TOUCH DNA means absolutely nothing. (Don't know if you have researched TOUCH DNA, but...if I shook your hand, and then touched something...say a pair of longjohns, YOUR TOUCH DNA would be on them...its called transference.)
 
DeeDee249 said:
And yes, kids do draw on themselves. It would be a very "little girl" thing to do- draw hearts on their hands or each other's hands.
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Little boys too though. Most kids I know draw all over themselves at some point. I have drawn on my child as well per his request. While I am not entirely sure PR did not do it, it's possible JBR did as well.
 
arielilane said:
A red heart was drawn on the palm of her left hand.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/it_5.html

With details that are both graphic and heartbreaking, new court documents released Wednesday reveal that the body of toddler Caylee Anthony was bound by duct tape that had a heart-shaped sticker placed on it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20253947,00.html

It certainly speaks volumes. How horrible for JonBenet and Caylee knowing that the one person they should be able to trust and to protect them.

Does it make a "mommy" feel better to put a heart on their child?
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I think your post is a bit presumptuous. And to respond to Ames comments, I don't think there are any experts that would say that Touch DNA is meaningless.
 
janemundane said:
So glad you put "mommy" in quotes. In my opinion, neither of these women were true mommies. Mommies love their children more than themselves.
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Maybe this one did. Too much. One of my chapter titles is "Loved to Death."
 
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