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    John already irritating Michigan citizens

    This is quite an interesting and intelligent commentary. I highligted the quotes that I thought were most interesting, but for context purposes, the whole article should be read.

    http://www.heraldtimes.com/articles/.../opinion02.txt

    Candidate Ramsey
    By Jim Grisso


    ...Lights, camera, action - John Ramsey announces his candidacy for the 105th District in the Michigan House of Representatives. That's our district, which is made up mostly of trees. ..

    ...Ramsey's opponents were lucky if their announcements made the front page of their hometown newspaper. (By the way, we published every state House candidate's announcement on our front page.) ...

    .....But he says he's been given a "platform" (to run for office). The platform is his daughter's death and ensuing investigation, which has not been closed. He wants to use that platform for the "good" (of the people).

    ...I would prefer his platform be based on what he can do in Lansing for the counties of Otsego, Antrim, Charlevoix and Cheboygan, in particular, and the state of Michigan in general. The mere fact he has suddenly become a permanent resident of Charlevoix, or that he has an unusual "platform," does not qualify him for public office.

    He obviously is running on the coattails of his notoriety, or, as some call it, celebrity status. However, his announced "platform" does nothing for us living up here among the trees.
    ...Voters in the 105th had better step back and take a deep breath. We have five other Republicans and two Democrats seeking the office, some of whom possibly have more knowledge about the district than Ramsey.....
    ...The Ramseys' experience in Michigan has been primarily limited to living the good life as summertime resorters overlooking the yacht basin in Charlevoix. He says he will focus on jobs, but what does John Ramsey really know about working people in our area? What qualifies him to make important decisions for northern Michigan, not to mention the entire state?

    All voters in the district should probe deeply into this man's background and qualifications - and political agenda. Of course, the same holds true for all candidates.
    ...Interestingly, conservative Republican incumbent Ken Bradstreet of Gaylord, who, unfortunately, can't seek re-election because of term limits, said he would publicly support a conservative Democrat in the general election if Ramsey won the primary. He said he's thoroughly researched the JonBenet case and is not comfortable with Ramsey's candidacy.
    ...Ramsey may have gotten off on the wrong political foot in Otsego County when he became a no-show for the North Central Michigan Homebuilders Association candidate forum in Gaylord Tuesday evening. He was the only candidate not represented.
    Already off on the wrong foot!

    ...I understand he has an impressive array of politicos and public relations people working for him, but somewhere along the line he will have to come out from behind the TV cameras and talk to us common folks.
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    Hmmmm.... Is this the equivelent of OJ being found guilty in civil court after the circus of a trial set him loose? Just because you seem to have gotten away with your deeds in one place doesn't mean they won't catch up with you!! John is a fool.


    I've wondered if the R's really even thought they had a chance... is this all a charade to get us thinking 'he would never run for office IF he had anything to hide'... Oh look, green pigs just flew past my window!

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    Fun with Ned

    Sorry can't help it LOL:

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    ...The Ramseys' experience in Michigan has been primarily limited to living the good life as summertime resorters overlooking the yacht basin in Charlevoix. He says he will focus on jobs, but what does John Ramsey really know about working people in our area? What qualifies him to make important decisions for northern Michigan, not to mention the entire state?

    Ned: Not to mention what qualifies him to focus on jobs? Wasn't he unemployed for years after the murder of his daughter?

    All voters in the district should probe deeply into this man's background and qualifications - and political agenda. Of course, the same holds true for all candidates.

    Ned: yeah LOL deeply into his background. I think Websleuths has pretty well reviewed that over the years. Hmmmm would I want John Ramsey making decisions in my state? LOL.

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    ...Interestingly, conservative Republican incumbent Ken Bradstreet of Gaylord, who, unfortunately, can't seek re-election because of term limits, said he would publicly support a conservative Democrat in the general election if Ramsey won the primary. He said he's thoroughly researched the JonBenet case and is not comfortable with Ramsey's candidacy.

    Ned: How in the hell do the Ramsey's think they are going to win anyone over in this world?

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    ...Ramsey may have gotten off on the wrong political foot in Otsego County when he became a no-show for the North Central Michigan Homebuilders Association candidate forum in Gaylord Tuesday evening. He was the only candidate not represented.

    Ned: LOL kind of like his No-shows to speak with the BPD concerning his daughters murder.


    Already off on the wrong foot!

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    ...I understand he has an impressive array of politicos and public relations people working for him, but somewhere along the line he will have to come out from behind the TV cameras and talk to us common folks

    Ned: And their first question should be, "Why should the folks of Michigan vote for a man who evades the investigation into the murder of his own daughter, and sets up a FAKE foundation in her name that never ever helped one single child?"

    wait I know, I know, he will give his first speech when he makes certain he has had a chance to read the questions asked of him ahead of time.

    What a hoot.

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    Never mind Tricia...Ned started the thread.

    I loved the part where John has to raise 200,000 dollars to win the primary and the one guy won both the primary and election on 15,000.

    Who do you want spending your tax dollars in Michigan?

    On LKL we learned all about Patsy's cancer...but nary a word on exactly HOW John will create jobs. Heck I can say....I will create jobs, though I can't do it.
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    Thumbs down

    Creating jobs? What a laugh! This from the guy who lost his CEO job and was unemployed for years and years all because he refused to take a polygraph! Now Scamsey is looking to cash in on his latest attempt at suckering the general public. Hopefully his track record of avoiding the thruth will show MI voters he isn't to be trusted in any capacity IMO.
    He's been hiding all this time and with all the pressure he'll be under and the questions he won't want to face or answer he'll withdraw. If you're going to use your murdered daughter as a "platform" (how sick is that btw?) then you've got to be prepared to answer the questions about your involvement and why you refused to take a poly when asked by your employer. Insulted? Yeah, I bet he was insulted. His very presence outside of a prison insults the hell out of me.


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    Seeker, you'd think he used his daughter's 'platform' to start an organization like Mark Klass and REALLY help children. Oh wait...he tried that with the JBR foundation and SHOES...both went kaput.

    Maybe John needs some more people to sue? If you are out of the spotlight people soon forget you. Fresh new lawsuits....with Woody standing in the aisles and making notes.

    LOL...suing people has been John's job over the years. Whadda ya mean he's unemployed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker
    Creating jobs? What a laugh! This from the guy who lost his CEO job and was unemployed for years and years all because he refused to take a polygraph! Now Scamsey is looking to cash in on his latest attempt at suckering the general public. Hopefully his track record of avoiding the thruth will show MI voters he isn't to be trusted in any capacity IMO.
    He's been hiding all this time and with all the pressure he'll be under and the questions he won't want to face or answer he'll withdraw. If you're going to use your murdered daughter as a "platform" (how sick is that btw?) then you've got to be prepared to answer the questions about your involvement and why you refused to take a poly when asked by your employer. Insulted? Yeah, I bet he was insulted. His very presence outside of a prison insults the hell out of me.
    Excellent, Seeker.
    The intruder is innocent! JMO

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    JR created a company

    which was growing by leaps and bounds and was one of the largest employers in Boulder at the time of JBR's death.....not to mention he was one of only a few companies to land a contract with Sun, who was building a million square feet in the technology park. He lost his job because of the persecution by some on the BPD, and the media. They may criticize him for his vacation home, but that's the biggest industry up there, besides cherry trees, and the locals make a lot of seasonal money off the tourists and parttime residents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maikai
    which was growing by leaps and bounds and was one of the largest employers in Boulder at the time of JBR's death.....not to mention he was one of only a few companies to land a contract with Sun, who was building a million square feet in the technology park. He lost his job because of the persecution by some on the BPD, and the media. They may criticize him for his vacation home, but that's the biggest industry up there, besides cherry trees, and the locals make a lot of seasonal money off the tourists and parttime residents.
    The media and the BPD didn't call up Access Graphics and demand they fire John....AG fired John for their own good reasons.

    Big difference in being a local citizen of Charleviox or a part timer resorter. The locals live there year round....'course John has something like 8 months under his belt now as a local. Does this qualify him? I'd say not really.
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    FEMA's link for Emergency Supplies list below or what you need to survive for three days in case help is not immediately available to you.
    http://www.ready.gov/document/family-supply-list

    You can also purchase a weather radio which will inform you of severe weather even if your electricity goes out. Runs on batteries of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maikai
    which was growing by leaps and bounds and was one of the largest employers in Boulder at the time of JBR's death.....not to mention he was one of only a few companies to land a contract with Sun, who was building a million square feet in the technology park. He lost his job because of the persecution by some on the BPD, and the media. They may criticize him for his vacation home, but that's the biggest industry up there, besides cherry trees, and the locals make a lot of seasonal money off the tourists and parttime residents.
    I have to laugh at these constant "pity John Ramsey" posts. Here is a man by all accounts from his supporters who was this brilliant businessman, able to do business with all the big guns, blah, blah, blah.

    Now here is this "brilliant businessman" unemployed for all these years because, as some claim, nobody would hire him because of all the "PERSECUTION" he endured.

    Now, let's ask a real serious question here:

    If nobody would hire him, and he lost his job, why in the world wouldn't this brilliant businessman, with the funds to back him up, start his own business???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He certainly brags about his business background, his knack for creating jobs, etc., yet he couldn't create a job for himself by himself?????? How in the world can he have the nerve to brag that because of his business background, he will be able to create jobs for others???

    Is there no end to the ridiculous claims the Ramsey supporters will state? Is there no end to the lack of common sense among the RST? Is there no end to the need to actually come to others and rationalize John's unemployment???

    Never mind, I'll answer these questions myself. NO, there doesn't seem to be any end to the lunacy
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    Can someone here send this thread to this MI newspaper? I think that the residents of MI should read what these posters wrote , what people from around the US thinks of the Ramseys.

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    Oh Packerdog

    you're one up on me. Exactly my thoughts!

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    here's a start

    http://www.50states.com/news/michigan.htm

    I say we construct a general "letter of concern" from those of us who would like to "alert" folks in Michigan regarding John Ramsey and especially the foundation he set up which did nothing to help children that are victims of pedophiles, like he promised. If Ramsey can't even help other children that suffered the same fate as his child, how the heck is he going to manage to help the folks of Michigan? What qualifies John Ramsey as a member of the House of Representatives?

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    Hey Ned, long time no see. I think you are perfect for the job, you can write a great letter and can compile lists of their contradictions over the years. You did a great job in the Van Dam case. I hope you are up to the task. Nice to see you back, like myself I have to keep up with any news in reguards to the Ramseys. Are you following the Peterson case?

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    FFJ has a special thread for news people that contains case information. I think that making info available to them in ways such as that is about as far as we Internet sleuthers should go in the matter of John's candidacy. If we write letters to the editors of Michigan newspapers, we might come across as a bunch of lunatic fanatics if those letters appear in the papers, and besides, Michiganders (is that what they call themselves?) might resent the interference of outsiders.

    imo

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