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    I thought of all of us today and Skyla and Taylor.

    We can never give up hope that Skyla and Taylor's killer will be caught and brought to justice.

    The wheels of justice turns slowly at times but it does turn.

    Just like it did for the Levy family, who have waited so long to see justice come for their daughter, Chandra.

    http://news.aol.com/article/police-c...ra-levy/353412

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    I agree. Never give up hope for Justice for Skyla & Taylor. I would just like to see this case get a little more attention and maybe something would break??

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I thought of all of us today and Skyla and Taylor.

    We can never give up hope that Skyla and Taylor's killer will be caught and brought to justice.

    The wheels of justice turns slowly at times but it does turn.

    Just like it did for the Levy family, who have waited so long to see justice come for their daughter, Chandra.

    http://news.aol.com/article/police-c...ra-levy/353412

    OMG, Ocean, I thought the exact same thing today when I read that about the Levy case. Although I do not wish for this case to still be unsolved after that length of time, justice is justice and having closure can finally bring some sense of peace to the Levy family. Reading that today brought to mind the fact that even though we may not hear about the case in the media, it doesn't indicate that the LE have stopped working it.

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    But according to an article in the Washington Post this arrest is coming after a 13 part series ran in the newspaper where a reporter laid out the case for the police.

    In other words, without this reporter's efforts there probably would still be no movement on the Levy case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert18 View Post
    But according to an article in the Washington Post this arrest is coming after a 13 part series ran in the newspaper where a reporter laid out the case for the police.

    In other words, without this reporter's efforts there probably would still be no movement on the Levy case.
    Albert18 - You are exactly right. Very observant on your part. I've been reading the Post since I was a pre-teen. There are so many cold cases in the D.C. metro area that have been re-opened and solved, due not only to their investigations but also to the public pressure from the attention. The Post can be relentless when something is very wrong and/or being covered up.

    Lauren - Thanks for posting the news reports and videos from the 2/15 gathering. I lit two candles at 5 Eastern and thought about the girls and all of the people here who have pursued this case. Did your friends there notice anyone from OSBI in attendance? Did anyone catch the newspaper article in which the reporter had apparently phoned JB the Friday before (by Manny G in Tulsa World)? No tough questions. Same answers as before. It's so hard to understand the lack of public outcry from the local press.

    In that same article, one of the locals is quoted as saying, "We might be able to help, but we don't know what they're looking for." One can only wonder what JB's response to that would be.

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    The press has always been a strong force in the solution of crime. Our media people spend too much time repeating news that has been spoon fed to them. (It doesn't matter what news channel you turn to, they are all reporting the same thing.) I remember when some of the news shows, like 60 Minutes, used to be big on investigative journalism. Occasionally you see a glimmer of that, but for the most part, the shows almost seem packaged like a series or something. Journalists have let us down big time. If the newspapers would go back to more investigative journalism or exposes, they might save themselves. People might subscribe to newspapers again. Many of them are going down the tube, because we can get more interesting info from some of the blogs online.

    Also, more info from LE would help a whole lot. Oklahoma needs a sunshine law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren - CA View Post
    OMG, Ocean, I thought the exact same thing today when I read that about the Levy case. Although I do not wish for this case to still be unsolved after that length of time, justice is justice and having closure can finally bring some sense of peace to the Levy family. Reading that today brought to mind the fact that even though we may not hear about the case in the media, it doesn't indicate that the LE have stopped working it.
    I really do think that the OSBI wants to solve this case. It was one of the most high profile cases. They too know that the parents of Skyla and Taylor need to know who murdered them. I am sure it haunts them that they have yet to uncover the answers they need. I don't think they will ever put aside this case. Some detective somewhere will work on it for the rest of their career, if need be.

    I see so many detectives on tv that finally brings a killer to justice and it is all about giving the family closure and I do think most LE does care and cares deeply. This case has to be most haunting since it was two vulnerable innocent girls just out for a Sunday walk.

    I will never give up hope. One day it will be solved and I pray it is sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I really do think that the OSBI wants to solve this case. It was one of the most high profile cases. They too know that the parents of Skyla and Taylor need to know who murdered them. I am sure it haunts them that they have yet to uncover the answers they need. I don't think they will ever put aside this case. Some detective somewhere will work on it for the rest of their career, if need be.

    I see so many detectives on tv that finally brings a killer to justice and it is all about giving the family closure and I do think most LE does care and cares deeply. This case has to be most haunting since it was two vulnerable innocent girls just out for a Sunday walk.

    I will never give up hope. One day it will be solved and I pray it is sooner than later.

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    My thoughts exactly Ocean~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow-Dog View Post
    Maybe he had molested them previously and they confronted him that day and told him they were going to report him to LE.
    Yellow-Dog, You may be right.
    The 2 girls waits and confronts him late that Sunday. He can't allow them to destroy his reputation and send him to jail, so he 'regrettably' has to shut them up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterylover View Post
    Yellow-Dog, You may be right.
    The 2 girls waits and confronts him late that Sunday. He can't allow them to destroy his reputation and send him to jail, so he 'regrettably' has to shut them up...

    That's interesting; it provides a motive. How does that fit with the popular "two shooter" theory? Do you think that there was an accomplice, or that he was using two guns by himself?


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    This thought just now popped into my head...Do you all think LE/OSBI checked the pastor's computer to see if he visited message boards such as WS's ?Maybe they checked his computer to see if there was any evidence related to the molestation charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k4kathy View Post
    This thought just now popped into my head...Do you all think LE/OSBI checked the pastor's computer to see if he visited message boards such as WS's ?Maybe they checked his computer to see if there was any evidence related to the molestation charges
    k4kathy, I'm pretty sure LE took his computer, if he owns one. I also think, since they have probable cause, they could also be searching his home.

    We can only hope they did!
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    Yes!!Let's hope!!

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    Could someone clear up for me why this incredible happenstance---sixteen counts of child molestation a mile from the scene of the killings---has drawn so little comment? Is it because LE is downplaying (if that's what they're doing/have done) this angle? Knowing of the internecine workings of rural Oklahoma communities, where religious---and tribal---concerns frequently can control goodly portions of the population, though that control is masked from outsiders's eyes by time-honored rituals of silence and avoidance---unless I'm missing something here, this particular event would seem to have to be dealt with; even if LE is downplaying it for their own good reasons, we should then be able to see more clearly just what, in fact, they ARE centering on as the reason for the girls's deaths---if anything. The preacher may in fact be innocent of the molestation charges, of course, but then the act of the children even MAKING these accusations, should tell us something about Weleetka and, by extension, about the tragic events dealt with in these threads.

    Now please don't get me wrong---I know I'm a newbie and I want to say up front that, scrolling through these threads, there have been many brilliant observations made by many posters, and an abundance of caring and concern, of love and strength, has been communicated herein for the two girls and for their families. But the two most recently posted-upon threads deal with psychics, and whether or not the girls had a dog with them, a dog which could then be used to identify the perpetrator(s)! Rightly or wrongly, this strikes me as grasping not at straws, but at bits of nothing; psychics don't solve cases, good investigations solve cases, finding unsuspected links between events solve cases---and dogs cannot talk, no matter how much we would like that they would be able to. In the nine months since this heinous act, half of downtown Weleetka appears to have burned down, and not one suggestion has been made that these two events could possibly be related---probably not, of course, probably only grasping at straws: and yet so much better than talking dogs and the airy metaphysics of psychics. Don't give up on this case, people---go through your concrete ideas once again and help solve this horror.

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    I see that I've been feted with a scowly face to the left of the topic on the discussion board; please understand, gentle reader, it is NOT the posters on this topic with whom I'm unhappy (okay, I'm not too fond of the psychics and the dogs, but that's just me, and I'm cranky); rather, I am massively upset with the authorities who have allowed this case to languish and, for all we know, to be pushed onto a backburner, with precious little information divulged to the public---we who might assist, given the chance, with the case's solving---and with the newspapers and broadcast sources of our state, who have unconscionably allowed themselves to be less than involved with keeping this case where it belongs---front and center, in the public eye. Just think of what would have happened had these two girls been the daughters of persons of wealth and influence. This case would have been red-balled until it was solved, and it would have solved months ago, in my opinion.

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