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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoFalls
    Isn't there something people can put on a handkerchief and hold it over someone's mouth and render them pretty helpless? That would be easy to conceal under a little pile of laundry.
    Are you thinking of chloroform?


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    Quote Originally Posted by amandab
    Are you thinking of chloroform?
    Yes, exactly. I would say it was on the tip of my tongue, but that might be a groaner of a pun. Is chloroform readily available at a pharmacy, or at someplace that sells supplies for chemistry students? What did Kim study in school, or did he go to college?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyodie
    how far from where brooke went missing is the location of the farm?
    Not far at all, by the look of it - particularly to anybody with a car. Here's the link to the maps I used:

    http://topozone.com/

    If you blow the map up to its largest at 1:50,000, you'll see the farm is literally the other side of the Willamette. Go east one block and you should see the well right at the top of the map, although there's no indication of whether it's capped or not. I haven't got round to looking at the satellite images so have no idea what they show. The only other well I've found so far is at Government Camp, but that's probably too far away and obviously I've not covered every single inch of the area. I have no information about this farm - what it's used for, whether it's restricted access etc etc, but hopefully somebody here will know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoFalls
    As far as places to hide Brooke, there are a jillion creeks and rivers, and quarries, and storage units, and some abandoned houses, deep woods, country roads galore. It would not be hard to drive a few minutes in any direction and be pretty remote.
    True, but a lot of the creek and rivers don't appear to be very easily accessible by car and that is what I was specifically looking for and assuming there was some pressure of time on the abductor. I don't believe it's that easy to carry a body very far or coerce a panicking and unco-operative victim over long distances. I imagine that whoever did this had some sort of plan and would have scouted out possible locations which might be of use to them.


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    Court Documents Show Kim Had An Arsenal

    July 2, 2004
    Court Documents Show Kim Had An Arsenal

    PORTLAND, ORE. - As Sung Koo Kim continues to make courtroom appearances in several different counties, new details are emerging about what investigators found in his home - this time a sizeable gun collection.
    Kim was in a Washington County courtroom on Thursday to face some of the most serious charges against him to date - 16 counts of downloading and possessing child pornography.

    "It doesn’t look like these are images he created, it looks like these are images he acquired. How he acquired those - we don’t know," said Washington County Deputy District Attorney Jeff Lesowski.

    In addition, court documents detail the kinds of weapons investigators say Kim had in his home - assault rifles, handguns, thousands of rounds of ammunition, a bulletproof vest and a gas mask.

    Kim has already been indicted for stealing thousands of pairs of women's underwear from several colleges in the Northwest.

    On Thursday, prosecutors brought forth evidence of child pornography seized from Kim's computer along with pictures and a videotape of Kim wearing women's underwear.

    "Believe it or not, some of those images, as disturbing as they might be, it is not illegal to possess them if it as adult consenting to the act," Lesowski said.

    Even so, Washington County prosecutors said Kim's indictment is one more reason why he is dangerous and his bail should be increased.

    "He already has posted $150,000 in cash. How much more money there is, we don't know," said Lesowski.

    Prosecutors strongly believe he is a threat to society because of the seizure of weaponry at his home on May 13, and the photography of mutilated women. His bail amount has been increased to $1 million.

    Corvallis police have also said Kim is not cooperating with their investigation into the Brooke Wilberger case. Officials say Kim will only speak with his family.

    KATU was told that Kim has been on the list of suspects in Brooke's disappearance right from the beginning, yet there has not been enough evidence to tie him to her case.

    "Mr. Kim has by far been on the list the longest," said Captain Jon Sassaman. "So we know he's been to the apartment complex yes, but that doesn't mean he did it."

    It has nearly been a month and a half since Brooke disappeared from her sister's apartment.

    Corvallis police continue to search for clues, which include searching abandoned buildings and storage units between Tigard and Corvallis. So far, 40 persons of interest have been ruled out.

    http://katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=68829


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    If he's not cooperating with police in Brooke's case, then that is a HUGE red flag!! An innocent person, no matter how perverted in other ways, would want to cooperate and get themselves ruled out, IMO.


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    This guy just gets creepier and creepier, scarier and scarier.

    Even if he isn't responsible for Brooke's disappearance (though I'm seriously thinking he is), I'm glad he's in custody and off the streets.


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    Morning guys,

    Off to work, but wanted to thank you for the update. I havn't seen many commercials lately about Brooke on TV. That is not good.

    So when the psychologist was talking about whether he is a loner in his perversive ways sexually or possibly violent, it looks like this answer might be viiolent. Not cooperating, shots of mutilated women in his posession and a small arsenal in his home would lead one to believe he looks very dangerous.

    I guess his family follows Confuscious saying - 'See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' - as he is their son. They must have ignored any signs out of respect for him as their son. Amazing!

    I still feel two things strongly. That his sister knows what he is all about and has covered for him and that he easily accessed all of these dormitories dressed like a woman.


    See you tonight!
    xoxoxo Scandi


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    as most of us remember, when the perp was apprehended in dru's case,the perp in that case also did not cooperate with police. anyone that has nothing to do with a crime I feel would certainly want to be cleared. I feel the more they look into this mans past the more they will find. this man is not only a threat to woman, but could be one that would cause great harm to a child. who knows.,maybe he has already kidnapped and killed a child., maybe some of the missing kids cases in a 100 mile radius of his home can be linked to him? maybe thats why he is affraid of cooperating with police. I feel that this person is a good suspect and not just the ole " person of interest " has any of the farm land,wells,ponds,and ditchs of the university property been searched that any one is aware of ? what kind of area does he live in? wonder if his father is anything? the below is just jmho,and not intended to offend anyone


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    Hi Danny,

    That post couldn't offend anyone! LOL I am now calling NEWSPERSON For a little bit of inside track!




    Scandi


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    Brooke Wilberger - name of KIM

    I read somewhere that Kim's full name is Dink Sung Koo Kim. Can anybody verify that or not? Also, does anyone know where Kim gets all his money for so many weapons and so much porno, etc. Do you suppose his father is in the porno business himself, and that is why he doesn't care to say anything but that he believes his son is innocent?


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    Question Brooke Wilberger - KIM's car

    Do any of you know what the description of Kim's car is, and what the license plate is? Why are the police so secretive about it, about why the park was searched half mile from Kim's home?


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    Hi Indigo and all...

    About the neighborhood park, one of my dearest friends lives in that neighborhood and I do intend to call her soon!! I have been really sick the past 10 days and haven't done much except read and cough ;o(

    I did hear that they were looking for any kind of personal evidence that could be tied to the case, but did not find any. I will let all know if my friend can give us any insight!

    About Dad...don't know what he does? Is mom a stay at home? In this area we have many that develop software from their home, but with all of Mr. Kim's activities it would seem hard to hide too much if the parents were home often.....


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    Hi Indigo,

    I don't know how to research these things on the net. I don't think they are there, unless in a news article which I sincerely doubt.

    They had some reason to search that park! I could postulate a theory. Either it is within blocks of his home, or they had a tip that someone heard or saw something there that is a telling sign and worthy of a man-out search!




    Scandi


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    here's today's article from the Corvallis Gazette Times re. Brooke:

    http://www.gtconnect.com/articles/20...y/satloc01.txt

    there's some freaky stuff in here that i hadn't heard before, like

    Police also found a file on Kim's computer called "osu.doc." The file is a list of single words and short phrases describing acts of rape, torture and genital mutilation of a woman, and a list of six items: "hood, glasses mirrored (sic), video camera, digital camera, six nylon and bring panties and bra to put on her."

    ((shudder))


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