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  1. #31
    There is a grainy video which shows the POI parking the car and getting out then walking around to where the gate photos were taken. There are, IIRC, 3 or 4 photos from the gate camera. (There were definitely more than just two photos of the gate.)

    In my opinion, there was a point where he was walking which would give a better indication of his height and possibly a facial view in the video.

    If they have other video or photos of him driving in...they have not released those to my knowledge.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by dearmont View Post
    No offense taken - actually, there does not appear to be any obstacles in the path of the POI and yes, I did use both photos of the POI. Also, it would appear that the POI is about 8 feet from the gate which would also support the estimate that the POI is rather short. As for professionally done - or not - I am a former Imagery Intelligence Analyst - FWITW.
    I wish you could go to the site to view the exact placement of the camera and do this! Let me try to find the photos here of the work people did a couple of years ago who went to the scene. One was a professional photographer and one was some type of engineer, IIRC.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by cloudajo View Post
    Good question. I wonder what kind of forensics they did on the units where the workers were living - did they get fingerprints, DNA, other items, etc. from those units and when exactly was that done.
    IMO, they did not check any of the other units for anything. If they did, it was a visual inspection only. The beginning of this case was plagued with too little field work and no forensics.

    They didn't even do forensics on Jenn's camera where they found 2 plus years later contained a photo of her tattoo. I am not even certain they checked her laptop computer.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by dearmont View Post
    Are the surveillance images taken by camera 3 at HOTG of the POI wlaking by the gate the ONLY surveillance photos taken of the POI? They are the only ones I've seen so far. If these are the only ones taken - what makes LE think this is a POI - Did anyone see this person drive Jennifers car into HOTG or get out of her car there? There has got to be something else here to make this an important clue in the case. If there is nothing else to indicate this is THE POI - we could all be chasing our tails!
    Here is some additional info - the person initially identified as a POI was later confirmed to be a suspect as video shows him driving Jennifer's car, parking, getting out, and walking past the gate.

    Thurs, Jan 26, 2006
    An Orange County sheriff's bloodhound (named Bo) followed a scent from the car parked at HOTG back about 1 mile to Jennifer's condo building. (Note: Since they can "scent the dogs" with last known scent I believe the dog followed the scent of the suspect.)

    Sat, Feb 4, 2006 (12 days had elapsed)
    Orlando police released two photos of a person walking past a gate at HOTG at the corner of Texas Avenue and Americana Boulevard at Noon on the same day Jennifer went missing (Jan 24th). They say this is a “person of interest” only (in one interview LE says the POI may have seen the person driving Jenn’s car). (Note: Although LE had the video showing this person driving Jenn’s car, they made a decision at the time not to release that information to the public, thinking they had a better chance of someone coming forward if only stated as a POI.)

    May 17, 2007 (over 15 months had elapsed)
    LE announces publicly that person previously identified as a “POI” is actually a “Suspect” and confirms full video showed him driving Jennifer’s car.

    Video of Suspect: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2007/05/the_new_video_i.html

  5. #35
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    Recent questions which have been bugging me about Jennifer's disappearance:

    1. Surely LE showed the photo of the POI to the person in charge of the workers at Mosaic?? I can't believe that if the POI was a worker, they wouldn't have recognised him or at least been able to put forward the names of a few people who fit the general discription and that LE should speak to. Makes me seriously doubt the worker theory.

    2. No one came forward with any information even with the huge value of the reward money on offer. During the search for Laci, LE said this is one of the reasons they knew she hadn't been abducted by a stranger - because as we all know there is no loyalty amongst criminals - yet no one came forward with any relevant info. Same thing with Jennifer. Say the unsub was a worker - at the very least, 1 one worker is going to notice that worker X (our sunsub) was missing for 4 hours on the day a woman went missing from the building they are working on. The place was swarming with LE by the afternoon, there is no way this could have gone un-noticed. The reward money is a lot of money to anyone and I imagine would be a huge amount of money for any of the workers at the mosaic - someone would have come forward!!

    If I were rich I would pay for the best private investigator I could find to start from scratch on this case. Are there any PI's on this board willing to look at Jennifer's case pro-bono? I am sure you would get a lot of publicity from it...? We would all do what we could to help...
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  6. #36
    We should probably avoid Dominic Casey for hire on this case. LOL

    You make valid points tho. One thing that would stand out if it were a worker is he would have been gone until lunchtime when her car was returned. Someone would have noticed this or it would have been noted on his work record for that particular day.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  7. #37
    This is a bit off topic, but one of our posters who worked so long and hard on this case for Jenn and is now deceased wrote this. I ran across it while researching things we came up with in the past. It was just a nice sentiment from Leftcoast. RIP Leftcoast. I miss you.:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=73
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



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  8. #38
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    1. Surely LE showed the photo of the POI to the person in charge of the workers at Mosaic?? I can't believe that if the POI was a worker, they wouldn't have recognised him or at least been able to put forward the names of a few people who fit the general discription and that LE should speak to. Makes me seriously doubt the worker theory.
    By the time LE had a photo of the POI to show anyone it is possible the workers who could be of any use were long gone.

    I wonder if much 'touch up' painting was done in Jennifer's condo.
    And since this was a 'private' condo was Jennifer present when this work was being done?

    On the other hand the suspect could have simply emerged from the woods behind her condo.
    Anything is possible in this case.

  9. #39
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    SS, somewhere in all the early video links I remember the interview with the neighbor lady who was walking her dog that morning. She made a statement to the press that she did not see Jennifer that morning and her car was gone.

    Wherever that car was that morning it was not in Jennifer's parking spot according to this lady.

    Was it hidden in one of the many garages at the complex and driven over to HOTG by a worker on his lunch break or was it taken off the property early that morning?

    LE collected the film from businesses up and around the area and we don't know if they discovered her car on that film being driven by the suspect. They have never said.

    As for the suspect's height. I believe the measurement of 5'3-5'5 is correct.

    I have personally observed foot traffic in that area on my many visits to that neighborhood and that measurement is typical of what I saw.

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  10. #40
    Originally posted by Drumstick:

    news links

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Some links of information. I'll try to include more when I have time.

    LINK for Fingerprint, DNA

    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pa...D1EBB468230FB2 ?contentId=3245601&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1


    LINK for POI height – 5’4”

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3213935&page=1

    Link for CSI team measuring at HOTG

    http://www.local6.com/news/6810971/detail.html



    America’s Most Wanted (recent) Link
    http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=37544


    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN (recent)

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273616,00.html


    When the POI was considered a possible witness (now suspect)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12732090/


    News video link (recent)

    http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer/...=kessetimeline

    http://www.wftv.com/news/13338923/detail.html

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...e_missing.html


    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,0,86285.story


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    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  11. #41
    Here are great photos outside the gate from GVS:

    http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,...18,00.html#6_0
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.

  12. #42
    Video with method of measuring the Law Enforcement model:
    http://www.wftv.com/video/6885628/detail.html

    While looking at some other things...I ran across this cleaned up version of the video by the tv station. It is so much clearer, IMO! Check it out! http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...w_video_i.html
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    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



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  13. #43
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    SS - thank you for posting the additional details - wonderful!
    As I looked at the video, the final frame taken just before the POI goes out of view - the face is unobscured by the railing. Is there a clean blowup of this frame?

    I cannot open the last link with the enhanced video - would you consider reposting the URL? Thanks!

    Added: I used my own photosoftware to enlarge and sharpen the image - it's not clear of course - but the face looks Asian to me.
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    Last edited by dearmont; 02-02-2009 at 11:29 AM. Reason: ETA: Comment
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  14. #44
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    Rob Allen said Jen was present when workers were in her apt/condo. That's in the transcript of the interview he did around the anniversary of her death a week or so ago.

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    Have a question that someone may be able to answer - back on 01/10/09 when CBS 48 Hrs aired Jennifer's case again, there was a video shown of the inside of her condo. I think this was taken by her family but do not know that for sure - something stood out when I saw it - split second scene in the kitchen area - looked like Jennifer's handbag on the counter. The photos posted no the Orlando Sentinel blog shows the same scene but no handbag - did anyone else notice this?
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