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    CA: "From the moment she was placed in my arms...."

    I didn't see this discussed, so mods, if I missed this, please delete.

    As LA's speech raised some issues for some of us, I found that the wording of CA here was something that goes directly to the heart of the lifelong battle between her and KC regarding Caylee. As we know, when Caylee was born, they handed Caylee to CA first, before even her own mother, KC had a chance to hold her. KC never forgot, or forgave this.

    It would have been so simple to say instead at the memorial, "From the moment I first held my granddaughter..." But, I think throughout this, CA continued to treat Caylee more as her daughter. She stated that Caylee was the "best gift she ever got". Normally, that's what a mother says, about her own children, moo.

    But again, for KC, this goes to the core, the fire in the belly. You can say it's semantics, but I'm not so sure. CA did say she was beautiful like KC, etc. but it seems to me that CA has a really hard time admitting she is the grandmother. Only GA continual talks about his relationship as grandfather, about his granddaughter. CA talks about Caylee, "our girl" (as does LA).

    Is this just the continuation of oneupmanship, control that has been played over and over?
    As my mother always told me, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Unfortunately, some parents never learned this lesson, and the reverberations go on and on...sometimes with the most final payment on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollie View Post
    I didn't see this discussed, so mods, if I missed this, please delete.

    As LA's speech raised some issues for some of us, I found that the wording of CA here was something that goes directly to the heart of the lifelong battle between her and KC regarding Caylee. As we know, when Caylee was born, they handed Caylee to CA first, before even her own mother, KC had a chance to hold her. KC never forgot, or forgave this.

    It would have been so simple to say instead at the memorial, "From the moment I first held my granddaughter..." But, I think throughout this, CA continued to treat Caylee more as her daughter. She stated that Caylee was the "best gift she ever got". Normally, that's what a mother says, about her own children, moo.

    But again, for KC, this goes to the core, the fire in the belly. You can say it's semantics, but I'm not so sure. CA did say she was beautiful like KC, etc. but it seems to me that CA has a really hard time admitting she is the grandmother. Only GA continual talks about his relationship as grandfather, about his granddaughter. CA talks about Caylee, "our girl" (as does LA).

    Is this just the continuation of oneupmanship, control that has been played over and over?
    I think so, but that's only my opinion.

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    I believe it is tit for tat.

    Casey- I did not want a public memorial. My parents did.

    Cindy- From the moment she was placed in my arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollie View Post
    It would have been so simple to say instead at the memorial, "From the moment I first held my granddaughter..." But, I think throughout this, CA continued to treat Caylee more as her daughter. She stated that Caylee was the "best gift she ever got". Normally, that's what a mother says, about her own children, moo.
    Also found it odd that Cindy said she had THREE children. My mother would say, "my two children and grandson." My heart breaks for this family and the unbelievable pain they are going through -- but the wording is very strange -- and goes to exactly your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollie View Post
    I didn't see this discussed, so mods, if I missed this, please delete.

    As LA's speech raised some issues for some of us, I found that the wording of CA here was something that goes directly to the heart of the lifelong battle between her and KC regarding Caylee. As we know, when Caylee was born, they handed Caylee to CA first, before even her own mother, KC had a chance to hold her. KC never forgot, or forgave this.

    It would have been so simple to say instead at the memorial, "From the moment I first held my granddaughter..." But, I think throughout this, CA continued to treat Caylee more as her daughter. She stated that Caylee was the "best gift she ever got". Normally, that's what a mother says, about her own children, moo.

    But again, for KC, this goes to the core, the fire in the belly. You can say it's semantics, but I'm not so sure. CA did say she was beautiful like KC, etc. but it seems to me that CA has a really hard time admitting she is the grandmother. Only GA continual talks about his relationship as grandfather, about his granddaughter. CA talks about Caylee, "our girl" (as does LA).

    Is this just the continuation of oneupmanship, control that has been played over and over?
    No, I don't think its one up man ship. I tell my daughter all the time that her children, my grand children, are the best gift I have ever recieved & they are. I also ask her " how are MY boys? I have said to them " are u my baby?" She knows its not because I feel I am their mother, it's just because I love her & I love them. She isnt bothered by it or I wouldnt do it. I think it was a struggle with Casey & CIndy though. I also think Cindy was more a mom to Caylee than Casery, due to Casey being immature & being lazy. She welcomed them parenting her child, when it suited HER. Other times she just Caylee to throw it into their faces that she, as the mother, could take her away in a whim & she did.

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    GA seemed authentic when he spoke and for a day shined with integrity that I needed to witness from him to rest my own heart that he will be able to keep this trait up till the very end. God Bless him! No judgement or comment about CA. A day of reprieve from me. My silence is golden!

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    this was cindy's show, it was about cindy and it was cindy who lost Caylee, not casey. and cindy made certain to tell her that from the very moment she took the pulpit. it is impossible for it to ever be JUST about Caylee, since these two women have relegated her to a bone of contention even down to how her remains would be handled. i hope to never hear from this vile woman again. you got your princess cindy funeral now, cindy. go the hell away.

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    I think just like Cindy Anthony said There should be more hope to wipe out the negativity and stop the speculation

    Its just my opinion but I honestly believe that everything that comes out of the Anthonys mouths are picked at too much, I do not think that Cindy was doing anything in her eulogy other than declaring her love for her daughter and her granddaughter

    This was after all her first granddaughter Caylee was very special to her and because Casey was a Single Mother and lived at home with her parents Cindy had even more hands on with Caylee ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsyourworld View Post
    this was cindy's show, it was about cindy and it was cindy who lost Caylee, not casey. and cindy made certain to tell her that from the very moment she took the pulpit. it is impossible for it to ever be JUST about Caylee, since these two women have relegated her to a bone of contention even down to how her remains would be handled. i hope to never hear from this vile woman again. you got your princess cindy funeral now, cindy. go the hell away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kageykaren View Post
    GA seemed authentic when he spoke and for a day shined with integrity that I needed to witness from him to rest my own heart that he will be able to keep this trait up till the very end. God Bless him! No judgement or comment about CA. A day of reprieve from me. My silence is golden!
    I agree with you completely! It was George who really spoke from the heart when he was reminiscing about Caylee. I watched the memorial with a group of friends and when "Jo-Jo" was talking.....all of us were crying. Not the case with Cindy. I, too, shall refrain from discussing Cindy today---but it's difficult. I noticed her "From the moment she was placed in my arms..." and found that phrasing to be interesting. But George---God Bless him. He shared some very personal memories of his re: Caylee and it must have been so hard for him. Did anyone else get the sense that Cindy was subtly irritated with him that she was "hogging" her limelight? The crowd was loving George so much for opening up and remembering Caylee, and Cindy had to interject herself into his time. I even noticed her trying to tell him to wrap it up....pointing to his notes on the podium as if she wanted him to hurry it up. I just wanted to say "Back off! Let the man speak!".


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    This memorial went off much better than I expected, imo, and although I expected much more attention to KC, I think the family managed to keep the focus on Caylee for the majority of time.

    It does seem that both CA and LA used this as a forum to speak to KC, for a variety of purposes. CA just can't help herself when it comes to Caylee and KC. Caylee was CA's "daughter" in so many ways. However, CA wanted to speak to KC to let her know that she loved her, wanted to hold her and wipe away her tears (tears of course we have never seen).

    LA, again, imo, spoke to KC throughout most of his speech to let KC know they are united behind her, but they are destroyed as well.

    GA spoke as a true grieving grandfather and father, laying to rest his granddaughter finally, and hoping against hope there is help for his daughter...no matter what she might have done.

    I believe this family is now ready to accept that KC is responsible, but they "love" KC in the only way they can, whatever that is for each of them. This was the message sent to KC today, "No matter how bad it is, we will stand behind you".moo
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneInOz View Post
    I think just like Cindy Anthony said There should be more hope to wipe out the negativity and stop the speculation

    Its just my opinion but I honestly believe that everything that comes out of the Anthonys mouths are picked at too much, I do not think that Cindy was doing anything in her eulogy other than declaring her love for her daughter and her granddaughter

    This was after all her first granddaughter Caylee was very special to her and because Casey was a Single Mother and lived at home with her parents Cindy had even more hands on with Caylee ...
    OT: Jane, I have been praying for your country and for all the lives lost and displaced because of the awful fires. Please take care of yourself.

    Now on topic: I agree with everything you said.

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    The one comment that bothered me the most in Cindy's speech was the part about Caylee being the greatest gift she's ever recieved. As much as I can't stand Casey for what she did to her daughter I felt that was a REALLY low blow to Casey that she said that. It just made it seem like Casey wasn't a great gift to her or didn't mean anything to her. She should have worded it that "Caylee was one of the greatest gifts that I ever recieved."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis Belle View Post
    Also found it odd that Cindy said she had THREE children. My mother would say, "my two children and grandson." My heart breaks for this family and the unbelievable pain they are going through -- but the wording is very strange -- and goes to exactly your point.
    KC often refers to Caylee as being part of "us"... like her fingers on the hand analogy. This family's boundaries are different from many other family's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillenFan21 View Post
    The one comment that bothered me the most in Cindy's speech was the part about Caylee being the greatest gift she's ever recieved. As much as I can't stand Casey for what she did to her daughter I felt that was a REALLY low blow to Casey that she said that. It just made it seem like Casey wasn't a great gift to her or didn't mean anything to her. She should have worded it that "Caylee was one of the greatest gifts that I ever recieved."

    JVM just mentioned this part of when CA said about when Caylee was placed in her arms, the gift reference and about how Caylee was also mentioned as a 3rd kid. She asked her panel what they thought of what she said and one said it was a pseudian (sp?) slip that it should not have been said in her eulogy. They were wondering why it was worded the way it was and JVM said this what started the rift between KC and CA from the get go.

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