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02-14-2009, 09:39 PM #286Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean.
We are all just trying to make sense of an unimaginable crime.
02-14-2009, 09:39 PM #287Registered User
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This has quickly become my favorite thread of the site. Thank you all for such thoughtful interpretations. I was, at first, bowled over at the social worker/social services angle - but it does make sense. Sexual predators routinely target children who are needy or don't have the best home-life. What better way to constantly come into contact with these kids than working for a child welfare/social services org? Also, part of their job would be to inspect the home correct, thus giving them intimate details of layout. They would also be aware of the father's absence from the home at night. Thoughts?
02-14-2009, 09:55 PM #288
02-14-2009, 09:56 PM #289
02-14-2009, 09:59 PM #290
I believe the investigation will uncover the responsible party; Mars and Jupiter are approaching victim's Neptune. The Moon of the horary chart is in reflex action with victim's natal conj. of violence, Mars-Uranus & the violence has passed now. As mentioned in my earlier post, this will be exposed in full when the Sun reaches Pisces by transit. Misty, the father Ron and the victim have horrible mutual aspects. Misty's Mar's on Antares, Ron's Uranus at the same degree, conjunct, both in square to Hayleigh's Mars at 7° Pisces. All at 7 degrees, three flashing red lights plus the victim's Uranus in that shadow. I do not like the condition of the "babysitter's" Moon in exile with two malefics as surround (& conjunct). You cannot give mother care with that combination and her Mars. Also trouble, considering this crime, is her Venus square Saturn, 3° and 3°!
Soulscape, in your horary, you assigned the Taurus cusp and Venus to Misty. Misty's Venus sits dead bang on the ASC of the horary! She is implicated, no matter how frightened and remorseful now.Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
02-14-2009, 10:11 PM #291
02-14-2009, 10:15 PM #292
In the 911 Call chart, Scorpio is on the cusps of both the 11th House of Friends and the 12th House of Kidnapping.
Scorpio is traditionally ruled by MARS. The modern ruler of Scorpio is PLUTO.
MARS, as Lord of turned 1st House of Kidnapper (radix 12 House) is located in Kidnapper's 3rd House of Near Neighborhood (radix 2nd House).
PLUTO, as Lord of turned 1st House of Kidnapper (radix 12th House) is located in Kidnapper's 2nd House of Near Future (radix 1st House.
MARS, as Lord of turned 1st House of Friends (radix 11th House) is located in Friend's 4th House of Family (radix 2nd House).
PLUTO, as Lord turned 1st House of Friends (radix House 11) is located in Friend's 3rd House of Near Neighborhood (radix House 1).
These placements suggest the perp lives and/or works in the neighborhood, or has family in the neighborhood. There is a neighborhood connection.
Last edited by Soulscape; 02-14-2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason: clarification
02-14-2009, 10:19 PM #293
All the non-mothering, Moon in Capricorn conjunct Neptune and Uranus, is disposited by Misty's Saturn in Aquarius and in the last boiling that is square the planet of little girls, 3° Scorpio Venus.
Also, due to Taurus resting on both the H. 7 and H. 8 cusps of the horary, those Houses must be read together. Soulscape assigned H. 7 to Misty, so Misty is in charge of both H. 7 and H. 8. Most incriminating. What did this 17 yr. old do and was she gowed up on a drug (or two) when she did it?Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
02-14-2009, 10:23 PM #294
This is the most unsavory case. The drugs are affecting both Ron's and Misty's temperament. The visitors were probably using too. Charts full of violence to begin with then awash in drugs. Tragedy was bound to happen but it fell on the innocent.Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
02-14-2009, 10:28 PM #295
Another fact that knocks you back---this 17 yr. old did nothing until Ron's truck pulled up to the house. Then she tries to call him on his cell! C'mon! That one didn't get past him and is the very reason he was berating her. Sorry but his arrival and her "noticing" Hayleigh missing were no coincidence.Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
02-14-2009, 10:31 PM #296
Reading these new posts, my mind can help but wonder to terrible thoughts. I have seen stories in the past where young parents have given children drugs and/or alcohol to "quiet" them. Could Misty have done something like this before Haleigh's bedtime so she wouldn't be bothered with her....and this is why Haleigh did not wake up when she was taken? Or could Misty have been zonked out of her mind and someone convinced her to let them have their way with Haleigh?
02-14-2009, 10:45 PM #297
In the 911 Call Chart, Asteroid BACCHUS (addiction/ drugs/ alcohol) is in Fateful Degree (same degree as NODES) and conjunct NORTH NODE 9 Aquarius.
This suggests drugs/ alcohol were indeed part of the picture --- whether Misty was zonked out of her mind or whether Haleigh had been medicated is not clear to me.
02-14-2009, 10:46 PM #298
Such as (this is just MY "for instance")... The family has connections with Social Services, police dispatch, and the local school system. And remember, that's just the 3 we are aware of at this time (meaning there could be more connections yet to be revealed). It's possible the family member has unwittingly provided information to any of the 3 connections, either personally or via small town "chatter".
OK, I'm doing a lousy job articulating my thoughts tonight and I apologize. Lemme see if I can describe this better...
Do any of y'all recall the horrific story in TX, where a "mother" (using that term loosely) sold her daughter out for sex and allegedly planned to add her youngest daughter to the "menu" (littlest munchkin was under 2 yrs, IIRC). While this...cough.."mother" ()...wasn't involved in incest, by nature of the definition- she WAS personally involved in similar ways that mimic incest. This is the thought I'm trying to convey when I hypothesised that both theories could be intertwined.
My Aunt is a Soc Worker, long-time friend is a Clinical child psychologist and family friend is a behavioral profiler. I'm going to e-mail all three with this thread and see what thoughts they have, if any.
While we should never stop praying, hoping and helping for a miracle- I wish I felt more enthusiastic about Haleigh's probability of survival. It hurts my heart more than I can express...
-MishChildren are the hands by which we take hold of Heaven -H Beecher
02-14-2009, 11:13 PM #299Former Member
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02-14-2009, 11:15 PM #300
I was in contact with someone who was at the search on Friday. She said the town is E. Buffalo Bluff, one-way in and one-way out, the sheriff said everyone knows everybody and even if someone is down by the river, the bridge-keeper will call and report it.
The talk ALL over the search was of Misty's infidelity with Cumming's uncle.Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean.
We are all just trying to make sense of an unimaginable crime.
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