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    CA/IA - What Do Michaela Joy Garecht & Johnny Gosch have in common ?



    I cant believe this , Im doing some googling and research into a few different cases and I happened across this and I am gobsmacked. Ive stopped doing what I was doing to post this
    Im not mad am I ? Do you see what I see ?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/181dfca.html - the case of Michaela Joy Garecht
    Abducted
    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Garecht was abducted by an unidentified White male on the parking lot of the Rainbow Market on Mission Boulevard in Hayward, California, which is about 10 miles south of Oakland.
    Garecht had ridden her bicycle with a friend, the two blocks from her home to the store, at about 10:20 a.m. to buy some snacks.
    After the two left the store and returned to their scooters, a man got out of a four-door gold or brown sedan and grabbed Michaela, a fourth-grader at Hillview Crest Elementary School, by the waist and forced her into the car.

    The car the kidnapper was driving was described to police as a large, older model American-made Sedan, gold or tan in color, in ratty condition, and possibly with four-doors. The car may have had cement splattered on the sides, and lights set into the rear bumper. It was last seen speeding south on Mission Boulevard toward the nearby Union City border.
    The kidnapping prompted a massive investigation. No arrests have been made, and Michaela has never been found.

    The abductor is described as having long, dirty blonde hair; a slender build; and a pockmarked or pimpled face. He was approximately 18 - 24 years old at the time of Garecht's abduction. A sketch of her abductor is below:
    Please look at the Doe Network link Ive provided above for the sketch of abductor

    THEN

    http://www.johnnygosch.com/

    Johnny gosch's Mother writes

    July 12, 2008 - NEW INFORMATION!

    I have had the following composite drawing for some time and am releasing it now due to new information on Johnny's case. You will see one photo/composite is from 1982 the second is the same man approximately 10 years later. There is further information concerning this man which will be released at a later time.

    Johnny Gosch Kidnapper Composite SketchThe second man involved in the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch, Sept. 5th, 1982. His name is Tony... He followed Johnny down the street shot Johnny with a stun gun and after he dropped to the ground, grabbed Johnny and threw him in the back seat of the kidnap car. The dark areas on his cheeks are "severe pock marks from acne scarring". This has been consistent in the description given by all witness's.

    Johnny Gosch Composite Sketch Number 2 KidnapperThis is a updated version of Tony approximately ten years after Johnny's kidnapping, showing him with a different hairstyle. He is wanted in at least 4 other kidnappings and the children have never been found. The dark areas on his cheeks are "severe pock marks from acne scarring". This has been consistent in the description given by all witness's.
    Michaela Joy Garecht
    Missing since November 19, 1988 from Hayward, Alameda County, California.
    Abducted 1988



    Johnny Gosch kidnapped 9/5/82

    But the 88 sketch is the same as the 82 sketch

    What is going on ?

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    I am seeing what you are seeing..

    here are the pics... I saved them to my photobucket....

    Johnny Gosch POI

    I have followed Johnny's case for a long time..... I see this is 'new' information:
    (I didn't post the second picture of this POI)
    snipped from The Johnny Gosch foundation website:
    http://www.johnnygosch.com/
    July 12, 2008 - NEW INFORMATION!

    I have had the following composite drawing for some time and am releasing it now due to new information on Johnny's case. You will see one photo/composite is from 1982 the second is the same man approximately 10 years later. There is further information concerning this man which will be released at a later time.

    The second man involved in the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch, Sept. 5th, 1982. His name is Tony... He followed Johnny down the street shot Johnny with a stun gun and after he dropped to the ground, grabbed Johnny and threw him in the back seat of the kidnap car. The dark areas on his cheeks are "severe pock marks from acne scarring". This has been consistent in the description given by all witness's.

    Here is the POI in Michaela Joy Garecht case:



    See the decription is the SAME!

    I know there is a HUGE "market" for children out there... but it is amazing this guy would travel that far .... makes you wonder how many others he took.....

    GREAT catch by the way!

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    These look like the same guy to me.

    GOOD CATCH!

    Are you going to send this to LE?

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    One of the descriptions notes that he's wanted in the abduction of at least 4 other children. I've been trying to find the other names he's linked to, but so far no luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DotsEyes View Post
    These look like the same guy to me.

    GOOD CATCH!

    Are you going to send this to LE?
    Hi all

    Im afraid that I cant - I havent a clue who to contact

    Would someone Please do this ? Someone who lives in the USA and is used to doing submissions of things etc ?

    This was me googling another couple of cases and going from one place to another to another to another and then I thought WAIT A MINUTE - I just saw that face earlier today

    I have read up on the Johnny case before but before his mother posted that photo

    Im stunned

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    I think that one of the other four cases she's talking about is Michaela's and that's where she got the pic. In her mind she's made a connection when there probably isn't one. I haven't been to Johnny's website for awhile, but is this one operated by his mother?

    I have followed Johnny's case forever and FYI, his mom has linked everyone to Johnny's case. IMO, She's a very sad desperate case.

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    HOLY COW! Is anyone sending this to LE?

    ITA, EXCELLENT catch!

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    There's an explaination for the two pictures somewhere in the Johnny Gosch threads in the cold case forum. Sorry I'm unable to add a link due to computer problems. I know it's been discussed here already....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    There's an explaination for the two pictures somewhere in the Johnny Gosch threads in the cold case forum. Sorry I'm unable to add a link due to computer problems. I know it's been discussed here already....
    Can you find the thread and PM me where it is please

    Thanks..






    Suzi, so is the Johnny G case true or not ? Ive also followed it for a while because I was like OMG I cant believe this can happen and the mother was so intent and intense about everything and for such a very long time.

    There is also this case Tara Leigh Calico

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/calico_tara.html

    There is this thread on WS about it.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...76#post1003776

    This is also a scary and sad case, what makes it the most upsetting is that both Tara's parents have since died , although her Step father is still alive which would be nice if he could see it solved.

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    Johnny's mother used the picture of Michaela's kidnapper as a "new lead" in her sons case or something like that. I thought it was proven to be false.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneInOz View Post
    Can you find the thread and PM me where it is please

    Thanks..
    Johnny's case is in the Cold Case forum here on WS. This is the link to the latest thread (I think it's #4):
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78177

    “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sr.

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    Jane, IIRC, pretty near everything besides the actual abduction has been debunked. According the everyone in LE on up to the Feds that is. Also, the pics supposedly of Johnny being tied up was the latest and that was debunked as well.

    ETA: So what's left is a conspiracy theory. I had to step away from the case because it was painful to watch Noreen. This poor lady needs closure...badly.

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    the second picture

    I just looked on the mother's Web site and I'm pretty sure the second picture is of Timothy Bindner, who was a suspect in Michaela's case and the cases of a few other California girls. I have the book about those cases, Stalemate, at home, and it has pictures of Michaela's alleged abductor and Bindner, because at the time LI thought they looked very similar. I will look at it tonight to confirm.

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    Dr. Doogie was doing some work on this case....I say ask him. The #4 thread hasn't been updated in a while...not sure if he's found out anything new or not.
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    Thanks for the updates everyone!

    I have read alot about Johnny's case.... have always thought it was strange that mom (Noreen) would post and not "seem" upset over the photos of "HER" son..... IDK.... just my opinion...

    Ethan Isaac Hansen
    Jan 4th 2002 ~ June 23rd 2007

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