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    Mods - Admins - Ppppuhleeease.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Thanks, Christine~ (Ahem...19 threads on Day 6!! Just sayin...)
    Please please pppplease can we get a forum assigned to just Haleigh? Pppplease.

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    Just checking to see if there are any updates......... guess not!

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    Bringing this over from last thread - I posted it just as it closed.

    As for the SO's and names and relationships

    So far we have:

    Kyle Johns SO - is, in fact, the one that lived the closest to them - IIRC 500 ft. over on Monroe Ave. WSleuthers have sleuthed that he "could be" related to bio-mom's (Crystal Sheffield) mom (Marie Sheffield - Griffis (maiden name Johns) )

    Then we have:

    Donald Sapp SO (not sure of distance lived to home)
    Now be "sleuthed" as "could be related to" landlord of mobile home, and/or co-deeded name to Misty's sister's home? And now somehow could be connected to Marie Sheffield Griffis as well?


    Do I have that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doogiesgirl View Post
    Ok, you got me thinking......have we seen MC's bare arms or legs? I can't remember seeing anything but her face as she has long sleeves on in every interview I've seen. And jeans, right? I wonder......does she have bruises on her arms? Just wondering.
    EXCELLENT question, doogiesgirl! Sounds like 'father of the year' strikes again.

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    SS, I'm pulling this over from the last thread. Really gave to go - fam is screaming for me...

    SS, bold by me. Hi This is the same thing I'm thinking. Quick question, and please don't get angry with me for suggesting this...I just posted something on the astrology thread. I wonder if LE did a drug test on her. Perhaps that could explain the reason for giving two polygraphs. I'm thinking that if perhaps she smoked a little bit of weed (or took another relaxant), then her peaks & dips might not be read correctly, b/c she could actually believe what she was saying or answering to be truthful. I know you said you don't think drugs were involved, but something in me is saying it shouldn't be omitted altogether. If no drug testing was performed, then they might not ever know since some drugs leave the system after 3 days. I'm not even sure that I actually believe MC is involved, but I can't rule it out yet. Some things just don't add up in my eyes...like the light in the kitchen for instance. Heck, maybe she thought she turned it off before she went to bed, but actually forgot, therefore the light would still have been on when she got up to tinkle. The cinderblock really bothers me. The fact that 911 wasn't called right away bothers me. I found that neither bio fam is great and can't help but worry that little Haleigh is no longer with us. The poor baby didn't have a chance. Both bio mom and dad seem to have gotten themselves together, but with the drugs that were involved in their past, I find it hard to believe that they're 100% off of them. Meth is a very serious drug, as well as GHB. I look at the age bio dad was when caught, and that could explain everything, especially with given the area they lived in. It's consumed with drugs. Just search demographics for those areas. If you have a problem, and you seem to overcome it, why live in an area that's surrounded with the same problems that you seem to have overcome? This is why my mind can't get rid of the thought. Please help me on this question. Do you, or would you, know if LE would have done a drug test on either MC or RC (or bio mom for that matter)? Something just doesn't add up to me. Yes, I feel as though a SO could be involved...I just wonder if it's also related or acquainted with a member of the family or group of friends. Thanks so much SS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWAG1959 View Post
    Bringing this over from last thread - I posted it just as it closed.

    As for the SO's and names and relationships

    So far we have:

    Kyle Johns SO - is, in fact, the one that lived the closest to them - IIRC 500 ft. over on Monroe Ave. WSleuthers have sleuthed that he "could be" related to bio-mom's (Crystal Sheffield) mom (Marie Sheffield - Griffis (maiden name Johns) )

    Then we have:

    Donald Sapp SO (not sure of distance lived to home)
    Now be "sleuthed" as "could be related to" landlord of mobile home, and/or co-deeded name to Misty's sister's home? And now somehow could be connected to Marie Sheffield Griffis as well?


    Do I have that right?
    Add to that - I am speculating that the owner of the home where Donald Lee Sapp lived (Jeffrey Michael Griffis) might be related to Marie Sheffield Griffis...and his wife (Billye Lee Griffis) could be Donald Lee's sister....

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    OK....NEW THEORY.

    What if AC guy is Misty's BF? Wouldn't an AC guy maybe have a van? And if something happened that someone needed to get rid of a body....and Misty's bro and AC/bf guy are buddies....Mist's statement that "the van they took"...she could have slipped there. Maybe BF and Bro took van to get rid of body?
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    ITA Jersey Girl. Wonder if LE has drug tested the players and maybe even bio-mom too? Can they legally do that? Maybe, maybe ask if player wants to volunteer for one. I believe it would be QUITE RELEVANT to the case - just knowing who was clean, who was dirty and with what and how long ago.

    Maybe NG will bring this all to light Mon nite - ya know she's gotta have the "rap sheets" as we have them here!

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    wasn't there a contempt of court document filed the day after haleigh went missing? i assume it was by the bio mom to say that the father was unfit or something? does anyone know if this is correct or was this filed previously to her going missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch_22 View Post
    wasn't there a contempt of court document filed the day after haleigh went missing? i assume it was by the bio mom to say that the father was unfit or something? does anyone know if this is correct or was this filed previously to her going missing?
    Yes one filed - NO - it was against bio-mom for back support - IIRC - iffen I'm wrong someone else chime in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Girl View Post
    Please please pppplease can we get a forum assigned to just Haleigh? Pppplease.

    I totally agree, I end up getting knocked offline and I have to search the forms to figure out where I found this at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    OK....NEW THEORY.

    What if AC guy is Misty's BF? Wouldn't an AC guy maybe have a van? And if something happened that someone needed to get rid of a body....and Misty's bro and AC/bf guy are buddies....Mist's statement that "the van they took"...she could have slipped there. Maybe BF and Bro took van to get rid of body?
    Weee!
    Do we know when the AC guy was at the trailer? Father picked daughter up at 3:45, took her home. Left for work at 4pm. Cousins came over at 5pm. When did they leave?
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    Jeffrey Michael Griffis, age 29 of Palatka, died 1/8/09!

    https://www.legacy.com/TimesUnion/De...onID=122370175

    Billye (his wife?) middle name is Lee - same middle name as Donald S! Wonder what her maiden name is....
    I believe Billye Lee Griffis' maiden name is Wager. She testified in Donald Lee Sapp's trial in the 1990s.

    Raymond Sapp contributed to bail in one of Donald's cases. Raymond died in 2005.

    Donald has/had a wife, and 4 children, according to Raymond's obituary. Does not name any other surviving relatives (darn it!).
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    IMO, the minivan and the blanket are key to Haleigh Cummings' disappearance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWAG1959 View Post
    Yes one filed - NO - it was against bio-mom for back support - IIRC - iffen I'm wrong someone else chime in here.
    SWAG, just want to say I applaud you for your hard work. You are very knowlegeable and I thank you for all of the links etc..

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    Holy C*#P!

    Griffis, Jeffrey Michael - GRIFFIS- Jeffrey Michael Griffis, 29, of Palatka, passed away Thursday. January 8, 2009. Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge....Published in the Florida Times-Union on 1/9/2009

    This was just a month ago. And now Donald has moved right in?
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    IMO, the minivan and the blanket are key to Haleigh Cummings' disappearance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Girl View Post
    SS, I'm pulling this over from the last thread. Really gave to go - fam is screaming for me...

    SS, bold by me. Hi This is the same thing I'm thinking. Quick question, and please don't get angry with me for suggesting this...I just posted something on the astrology thread. I wonder if LE did a drug test on her. Perhaps that could explain the reason for giving two polygraphs. I'm thinking that if perhaps she smoked a little bit of weed (or took another relaxant), then her peaks & dips might not be read correctly, b/c she could actually believe what she was saying or answering to be truthful. I know you said you don't think drugs were involved, but something in me is saying it shouldn't be omitted altogether. If no drug testing was performed, then they might not ever know since some drugs leave the system after 3 days. I'm not even sure that I actually believe MC is involved, but I can't rule it out yet. Some things just don't add up in my eyes...like the light in the kitchen for instance. Heck, maybe she thought she turned it off before she went to bed, but actually forgot, therefore the light would still have been on when she got up to tinkle. The cinderblock really bothers me. The fact that 911 wasn't called right away bothers me. I found that neither bio fam is great and can't help but worry that little Haleigh is no longer with us. The poor baby didn't have a chance. Both bio mom and dad seem to have gotten themselves together, but with the drugs that were involved in their past, I find it hard to believe that they're 100% off of them. Meth is a very serious drug, as well as GHB. I look at the age bio dad was when caught, and that could explain everything, especially with given the area they lived in. It's consumed with drugs. Just search demographics for those areas. If you have a problem, and you seem to overcome it, why live in an area that's surrounded with the same problems that you seem to have overcome? This is why my mind can't get rid of the thought. Please help me on this question. Do you, or would you, know if LE would have done a drug test on either MC or RC (or bio mom for that matter)? Something just doesn't add up to me. Yes, I feel as though a SO could be involved...I just wonder if it's also related or acquainted with a member of the family or group of friends. Thanks so much SS!
    They all looked (Misty, Ron and Crystal) as if they had been sedated the first few videos compared to a couple days later and yes we know that would null and void the value of the Poly.

    The "other Kaylee" who's GMother fought for so long to get removed from bio dad could not be given a polygraph the first time he appeared on Dr Phil just from the use of antidepressants.

    I have read that wiggling around, lack of sleep, even chewing gum can effect the out come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    Weee!
    Do we know when the AC guy was at the trailer? Father picked daughter up at 3;45, took her home. Left for work at 4pm. Cousins came over at 5pm. When did they leave?
    He was there at the same time bro was....but not sure when he left. If bro and ac guy are good buddies, and you have to remember here...that ron and misty had only been together a few months, so as bad as I hate to type this...how attatched to Haleigh would any of them had been. I could see them getting together to cover for each other.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    Weee!
    Do we know when the AC guy was at the trailer? Father picked daughter up at 3:45, took her home. Left for work at 4pm. Cousins came over at 5pm. When did they leave?
    She mentioned him in the same timespan as her brother and nephews being there. Maybe she failed to mention it was later or he was there at the time, but stayed later? LE already cleared him tho...so I am again confused. How can we include him?
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    Can anyone access the mom's my space account. Seems like when I try I keep getting locked up, or knocked off the site. Was wanting to access to pictures, players in herlife..
    Everyone is a suspect until haleigh is found.

    I know that mom Crystal has a sister Sarah. That site is still unlocked with around 100 photos.
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    LE has said that the A/C has been "interviewed" - not sure if they said "cleared" or they did and then back-tracked because I heard again, just yesterday LE said "the whole world is a suspect". They haven't said "cleared" on all the RSO's - LE said they have ACCOUNTED FOR, or "talked to and checked residences" - I think.

    LE is being very very very tip lipped on anyone and everyone involved. Could be because of small town venue and everyone is somehow related to everyone else by marriage, extended blood, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Girl View Post
    SS, I'm pulling this over from the last thread. Really gave to go - fam is screaming for me...

    SS, bold by me. Hi This is the same thing I'm thinking. Quick question, and please don't get angry with me for suggesting this...I just posted something on the astrology thread. I wonder if LE did a drug test on her. Perhaps that could explain the reason for giving two polygraphs. I'm thinking that if perhaps she smoked a little bit of weed (or took another relaxant), then her peaks & dips might not be read correctly, b/c she could actually believe what she was saying or answering to be truthful. I know you said you don't think drugs were involved, but something in me is saying it shouldn't be omitted altogether. If no drug testing was performed, then they might not ever know since some drugs leave the system after 3 days. I'm not even sure that I actually believe MC is involved, but I can't rule it out yet. Some things just don't add up in my eyes...like the light in the kitchen for instance. Heck, maybe she thought she turned it off before she went to bed, but actually forgot, therefore the light would still have been on when she got up to tinkle. The cinderblock really bothers me. The fact that 911 wasn't called right away bothers me. I found that neither bio fam is great and can't help but worry that little Haleigh is no longer with us. The poor baby didn't have a chance. Both bio mom and dad seem to have gotten themselves together, but with the drugs that were involved in their past, I find it hard to believe that they're 100% off of them. Meth is a very serious drug, as well as GHB. I look at the age bio dad was when caught, and that could explain everything, especially with given the area they lived in. It's consumed with drugs. Just search demographics for those areas. If you have a problem, and you seem to overcome it, why live in an area that's surrounded with the same problems that you seem to have overcome? This is why my mind can't get rid of the thought. Please help me on this question. Do you, or would you, know if LE would have done a drug test on either MC or RC (or bio mom for that matter)? Something just doesn't add up to me. Yes, I feel as though a SO could be involved...I just wonder if it's also related or acquainted with a member of the family or group of friends. Thanks so much SS!
    Jersey girl, I have to agree with you about the drugs being in their systems.

    I realize this is a horrible situation for the families, but if they are into drugs, like all the court documents state, then more than likely they are still using. This might account for the different stories.

    Abusing drugs has an affect on a persons short term memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    She mentioned him in the same timespan as her brother and nephews being there. Maybe she failed to mention it was later or he was there at the time, but stayed later? LE already cleared him tho...so I am again confused. How can we include him?
    LE keeps saying...no one is cleared....they have talked to all these people but cleared no one. And they have mentioned poly being given to family and friends. They would say he was an AC guy to hide it from ron.....I mean he is an AC guy...but kwim?
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swag
    Ok - woke up, coffeed up, and now caught up.

    Blanket talk, SO talk, Misty talk, VAN TALK

    I have a little light bulb when reading the van talk. Don't slap me - but now with update on last known location - this might be relevant.

    WHAT IF gf took the kids with her when she went out? WHAT IF there was a van they went in - albeit sister's or an unknown someone's.

    This ties in with the blanket talk. WHY would Misty's blanket BE IN the "van that they took"? I'm assuming she's talking about sister's van and the nephews play date. Why would there have been A NEED for her (gf) to bring her blanket out of the house and put it in the van?

    We also have been left with HUGE time gaps in gf's story. We have heard NOTHING about "dinner for the kids" and "bath time for the kids" - she jumps from 5:30 when nephews left to 8:00 when she put her to bed.

    IF gf is afraid of dad - she wouldn't go off and leave the kids - what happens if he comes home? We don't know about cell phones - did the home just have a landline so that if dad called home and no one answered - in the 911 call he says to Misty - "give me my phone". Did gf even have a phone? Wouldn't it be easier to just take the kids with her if she planned on going out? Maybe she asked to borrow sister's van - excuse being needing groceries - but in actuality needed her "fix" and was going out to make a "buy" - left kids in van?
    (bold mine, from last thread) Yes still unclear to me who if anyone drove van? Seems important, was gf able to drive or transport kids during day? Agree TOO much info missing from timeline, no one has provided these details--incl LE. JMO


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