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    Bones from 6 bodies found in NM desert

    Possibly bones of missing prostitutes.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29247408/

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Bones from six bodies have been uncovered in the desert west of Albuquerque during the past two weeks, and police said Tuesday they were likely put there by one person.

    As detectives shore up their list of suspects, the list of possible victims is growing to include a group of 16 prostitutes who went missing from Albuquerque between 2001 and 2006 and others reported missing to other area law enforcement agencies.

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    Oh Good Lord, there's so many women missing in AZ..
    Were they serial killer pimps?

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    I am in New Mexico and have been surprised at the lack of coverage this case seems to be receiving. Perhaps it is because there are no updates yet, but to me this is huge, six bodies found, most likely dumped there by the same person.

    I wonder how likely of a candidate this pimp they describe as a suspect in Victoria Chavez's disappearance is as a candidate for all the murders. (If that is indeed what caused the deaths.) When he died in January, they found pictures or articles on the missing prostitutes.

    Would anybody who has experience in profiling like to offer a suggestion of how likely it would be that a pimp would also murder his "employees". I guess on one hand, the very fact that someone is a pimp could make them indifferent to a woman's humanity, but it seems like killing off prostitutes would be counterproductive to the pimp's livelihood.

    Of course this is all speculation based on ideas offered in some of the articles I have read. The other five remains may not even be those of people working in the sex trade, although the area has had a number of known prostitutes and drug addicts go missing in the last decade.

    Hopefully all the remains can be identified and the deceased loved ones can have some closure.

    I look forward to hearing what you sleuthers think!

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    4 more bodies found

    The total is now 10 bodies including an unborn fetus.
    Here is the link: http://kob.com/article/stories/S801500.shtml?cat=500

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagofa13 View Post
    Possibly bones of missing prostitutes.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29247408/

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Bones from six bodies have been uncovered in the desert west of Albuquerque during the past two weeks, and police said Tuesday they were likely put there by one person.

    As detectives shore up their list of suspects, the list of possible victims is growing to include a group of 16 prostitutes who went missing from Albuquerque between 2001 and 2006 and others reported missing to other area law enforcement agencies.

    snipped from the article:

    "Argueta said his detectives are looking at a few suspects in connection with Chavez's case. Two suspects — Fred Reynolds and Lorenzo Montoya — are dead.

    Reynolds, 60, was an Albuquerque area pimp who was found dead of natural causes in January. Police say he had pictures of some of the missing prostitutes in his home.

    Montoya, 39, was shot and killed in 2006 after he killed a 19-year-old prostitute, Sherika Hill, and tried to stuff her nude body in the trunk of his car. Her pimp, parked outside his trailer waiting for Hill, shot Montoya."
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    How terribly sad

    They are all someones child and they should have proper burials

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    I saw this before Kat and while I have nothing more than a gut instinct to go on, I don't know if the men mentioned in the initial article are responsible for all ten bodies. I think it depends on the identity of the bodies and the time frame of the dumps. I would hope that the police would have already been trying to tie these suspects' names to the other missing women as they shared similar risk factors in the way they went missing. However, it is possible that this discovery is what it takes for the police to really dig deeper into the circumstances of Albuquerque's missing women. Just my two cents! My goodness though, I hope they are able to solve this one, ten bodies in the span of five or six years has a monster's fingerprints all over it, and just imagine if the culprit isn't one of these two dead suspects?

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    Expert suspects work ofserial killer
    APD still mum on theories

    Updated: Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009, 12:25 AM MST
    Published : Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009, 12:24 AM MST
    * Reporter: Tim Maestas
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    ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) - The skeletal remains found buried on Albuquerque’s West Mesa over the last two weeks appear to be the work of a serial killer, according to a university professor who has studied that class of criminal for years.

    Albuquerque police found the remains of four more people on Saturday and Monday, bringing the total number of potential victims to 10. One of the dead includes an unborn child.

    “This has all the trappings of a serial murder case,” Dr. Dirk Gibson of the University of New Mexico told KRQE News 13.

    Gibson has studied more than 1,000 serial killers and written three books on the subject.

    “We don’t know the cause of death yet, but we would assume it’s not accidental,” Gibson said.

    Albuquerque police said it is possible the buried people were murdered but has insisted it’s too early to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesikah1 View Post
    I saw this before Kat and while I have nothing more than a gut instinct to go on, I don't know if the men mentioned in the initial article are responsible for all ten bodies. I think it depends on the identity of the bodies and the time frame of the dumps. I would hope that the police would have already been trying to tie these suspects' names to the other missing women as they shared similar risk factors in the way they went missing. However, it is possible that this discovery is what it takes for the police to really dig deeper into the circumstances of Albuquerque's missing women. Just my two cents! My goodness though, I hope they are able to solve this one, ten bodies in the span of five or six years has a monster's fingerprints all over it, and just imagine if the culprit isn't one of these two dead suspects?
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    I, too, would be surprised if they were either as a pair or individually responsible. Montoya had been involved with a murder of a female before but it was back in either 2007 or 2006 and I can't find an archived article on the incident only a reference made to him killing a woman and then being shot by her boyfriend.

    Perhaps it is sloppy reporting but I found in interesting that the other man, was said to have "Police say he had pictures of some of the missing prostitutes in his home." (quoted from the article posted in post #1).

    But yet, also from that article "Of the six sets of remains, only one has been identified through dental records provided by the family of Victoria Chavez when they reported her missing in 2004."

    I'm not sure how to connect that man if he has pictures of some of the women that had been missing~to~ he might be responsible for the remains of the victims found when only one had been identified at that time.

    I probably didn't make a lot of sense trying to type that out. I hope you all can sort out what I am trying to say.
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    Does NM have any issue with border problems? I saw a special that NM was having problems with drug lord murders from Mexico spilling into the US, inc. NM deserts......However, these murders apear to be burried??? A serial killer may take the time to burry his victims, while a drug lord more than likely wound not. Anyone taking the time to burry a victim, doesnt want them to be found and in other words, wants to continue this crime.......Just my thoughts.

    But hopefully they are able to identify the remains of all the victims and be returned to their loved ones for closure. And likewise, hope they are able to solve who commited them.


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    With 10 bodies found in the same "dumping ground" shows the person dumping them there was very comfortable with the spot.

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    That is what I thought of too. In AZ we have a problem with coyotes (people who carry illegals across the border for money) dumping people in the desert, where they succumb to the elements, and many illegals getting killed in drug issues.


    Quote Originally Posted by Law_girl41 View Post
    Does NM have any issue with border problems? I saw a special that NM was having problems with drug lord murders from Mexico spilling into the US, inc. NM deserts......However, these murders apear to be burried??? A serial killer may take the time to burry his victims, while a drug lord more than likely wound not. Anyone taking the time to burry a victim, doesnt want them to be found and in other words, wants to continue this crime.......Just my thoughts.

    But hopefully they are able to identify the remains of all the victims and be returned to their loved ones for closure. And likewise, hope they are able to solve who commited them.

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    So the count is up, but the authorities believe it is one single incident....so they believe that these 9 people were murdered at the same time and then buried...and no one noticed. What would motivate a mass murder like this-drugs, eliminating witnesses?

    Let's say some were illegals-why take out everyone? Had they been questioned by LE regarding drugs or a sex-trade ring??

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    I've been following this case and Joel Patrick Courtney keeps coming to mind. LE is pretty sure he's a prolific serial killer, but have not found any victims.

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    Bernalillo County, New Mexico District Attorney Kari Brandenburg said she thinks Courtney may be linked to some other disappearances and wants investigators to examine where else Courtney may have traveled and stayed between Corvallis and Albuquerque and "see if there are any unresolved cases."
    (great article at link)

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...ourtney/1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
    Expert suspects work ofserial killer
    APD still mum on theories
    Updated: Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009, 12:25 AM MST
    Published : Tuesday, 24 Feb 2009, 12:24 AM MST
    * Reporter: Tim Maestas
    * Web Producer: Bill Diven


    Full article: click here
    Have you worked up a profile on the Unsub yet? I'd be extremely interested in what you think.

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