Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 86

Thread: A makeshift (Chair),shovel, and rope

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    5,545

    Question A makeshift (Chair),shovel, and rope

    I have looked to see if a thread was started discussing these items and statement. I did not see one. If there is one, mods move as needed.
    This is old news, LE has not given out any information about these item or Ron's statement.

    A makeshift (Chair),shovel, and rope.
    Last edited by Tom'sGirl; 06-14-2009 at 03:38 PM. Reason: rumor/unverified portion removed

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hinky Hollow
    Posts
    14,702
    Interesting, so Ron himself thought it could be revenge for something he did......
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    In the Woods In Georgia
    Posts
    5,518
    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Interesting, so Ron himself thought it could be revenge for something he did......
    Sure makes me think in a totally different direction..
    Justice For Caylee Marie

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,346
    If this report is true, then Ron is the source of at least one rumor that his associates might be responsible for Haleigh's disappearance.

    Another rumor, regarding the fight (which involved a gun )can be traced to Misty or perhaps other family member.

    Both rumors have now been categorically denied by Ron who further states he has "no enemies." Ron urged people not to "look at his life" as a possible clue to what happened to Haleigh.

    Why the discrepancy?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hinky Hollow
    Posts
    14,702
    This really makes me think he did "rat" on someone to get out of charges and it could be tied into that. The gun in the ditch has always made me go hmmmmm.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,346
    In another recent case, a Person of Interest speculated that her daugter was adbucted "to teach her a lesson."

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    566
    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    This really makes me think he did "rat" on someone to get out of charges and it could be tied into that. The gun in the ditch has always made me go hmmmmm.
    It has always made me go hmmmm too because I thought I read in one of the comments on this case that TN said fight/gun happened a couple of weeks before, but RC said no fight/gun. I've asked about that, but never got a clear answer.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    In the Woods In Georgia
    Posts
    5,518
    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo View Post
    In another recent case, a Person of Interest speculated that her daugter was adbucted "to teach her a lesson."
    uh, that wasn't speculation in the least..that was cover my arse syndrome.
    lol
    Justice For Caylee Marie

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hinky Hollow
    Posts
    14,702
    Maybe Ron did not want people looking into his life because he thought it would put Haleigh in more danger? I have always thought he had an idea of who took her....
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    29,052
    Jersey_Girl did some excellent work on the chair. She used to make them in Girl Scouts and came up with a few ideas on height and weight of the person that was using the chair. Unfortunately, I have no idea where her posts are, or I would link them.

    Maybe she will weigh in here and share a little more of her expertise in this area of the chair.

    Salem

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Salem For This Useful Post:


  12. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,346
    Quote Originally Posted by mydailyopinions View Post
    uh, that wasn't speculation in the least..that was cover my arse syndrome.
    lol
    So we've learned from experience that's what these speculations sometimes are.

    In Ron's case, it's important only if he hasn't shared these thoughts and tips with LE. Some feel that Ron may be protecting Haleigh by hiding the truth about "who" took her. Again, this sounds too much like the Anthony case to me. It is never best to leave LE out of the loop.

    If this was the case, where does he think Haleigh is and who has her? Does he believe she's still alive somewhere? What does he think are the steps he needs to take to get Haleigh back? Is he following these steps? Is he trying to negotiate privately with the abductor/s?

    These are important questions that can help reveal the truth here. JMO.

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    821
    IMO, This thought would cross the mind of anyone missing a child, whether "in trouble" with people or not.
    I think that it would be a natural feeling response... much like those who are sexually assaulted feeling it was "their own fault" that happened to them, when the truth is it isn't.
    Blaming yourself for something is oftentimes better than blaming someone else for something. A sign of depression...

  14. #13
    EmMomma's Avatar
    EmMomma is offline Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    3,039
    This is week 3...
    Why are we just hearing about his now?
    Revenge (especially when it involves drugs/$$) sounds like a perfectly legitimate motive to me...
    But didn't we hear before that Ron doesn't have friends OR enemies?
    This gets more and more convoluted by the day...
    Poor Haleigh.
    "Lost is not alone..." T. Miller, Founder TES (and MY HERO!!!)

    "I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will." -

    Edward Everett Hale

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    505
    Quote Originally Posted by EmMomma View Post
    This is week 3...
    Why are we just hearing about his now?
    Revenge (especially when it involves drugs/$$) sounds like a perfectly legitimate motive to me...
    But didn't we hear before that Ron doesn't have friends OR enemies?
    This gets more and more convoluted by the day...
    Poor Haleigh.
    My thoughts exactly! Has Ron kept this to himslef because he is 1. afraid for Haleigh's safety or 2. afraid that his past will be revealed?? I've thought from the beginning it was a scenario like this involving drugs/revenge/etc. IF this is true I hope and pray he has told LE of this weeks ago, perhaps this is why the silence from LE? Maybe Ron was involved in a lot of junk. If this did involve revenge, I fear Haleigh is long gone.
    Then again maybe this is just another diversion to bolster RJ's "man in black story" and get the spotlight off of Ron??
    Caylee, your justice is on the way...

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    3,366
    Quote Originally Posted by lolype29 View Post
    IMO, This thought would cross the mind of anyone missing a child, whether "in trouble" with people or not.
    I think that it would be a natural feeling response... much like those who are sexually assaulted feeling it was "their own fault" that happened to them, when the truth is it isn't.
    Blaming yourself for something is oftentimes better than blaming someone else for something. A sign of depression...
    I agree. I would definitely be thinking about who I might have ticked off in the past. On the other hand, once I had that list of names (given my family history-there would be a list,lol) LE would be the first to see it.
    You won't cry for my absence, I know -
    You forgot me long ago. Am I that unimportant...?
    Am I so insignificant...? Isn't something missing?
    Isn't someone missing me?
    Evanescence
    Please take a moment to see Deanna's Age progression here:
    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US
    Deanna Merryfield-missing from Killeen,Tx since July 1990
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=106164

  17. #16
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    138
    Quote Originally Posted by MissieMt View Post
    I agree. I would definitely be thinking about who I might have ticked off in the past. On the other hand, once I had that list of names (given my family history-there would be a list,lol) LE would be the first to see it.
    maybe LE has been provided with a list. I wish they could tell us anything already.

  18. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,346
    Quote Originally Posted by EmMomma View Post
    This is week 3...
    Why are we just hearing about his now?
    Revenge (especially when it involves drugs/$$) sounds like a perfectly legitimate motive to me...
    But didn't we hear before that Ron doesn't have friends OR enemies?
    This gets more and more convoluted by the day...
    Poor Haleigh.
    The report about possible revenge came early on. In more recent interviews, Ron has said he has no enemies.

  19. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    1,346
    Quote Originally Posted by samsmom02 View Post
    maybe LE has been provided with a list. I wish they could tell us anything already.
    I have high hopes that the cinder block has narrowed the suspect pool. Touch DNA, fingerprints, etc. should help to identify the person who propped open that door. This person knows what happened that night.

    If the DNA is not from a member of the family, it can be run through the database for hits.

  20. #19
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    11,266
    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    This really makes me think he did "rat" on someone to get out of charges and it could be tied into that. The gun in the ditch has always made me go hmmmmm.
    I was one of the first people to suggest what you are saying about Ronald's charges and really got pounded by it.

    The gun in the ditch has made no sense. Why would someone steal a gun just to throw it in the ditch? I wonder how close to the house the ditch was? IMO, and just IMO, I think there is something hinky about the gun and just maybe Ronald threw it there himself. It may be an illegal gun and was thrown there so as to not have been in the house when LE responded to the 911 call, IMO.
    **May God Watch Over All Missing and Abused Children**

  21. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,804
    Quote Originally Posted by LaLaw2000 View Post
    I was one of the first people to suggest what you are saying about Ronald's charges and really got pounded by it.

    The gun in the ditch has made no sense. Why would someone steal a gun just to throw it in the ditch? I wonder how close to the house the ditch was? IMO, and just IMO, I think there is something hinky about the gun and just maybe Ronald threw it there himself. It may be an illegal gun and was thrown there so as to not have been in the house when LE responded to the 911 call, IMO.
    I'm very interested in this gun.Can you or any one tell me more on the story about the gun and how and where in the ditch it was found?
    ALL EVIL NEEDS TO SUCCEED IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING!!!!

  22. #21
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hinky Hollow
    Posts
    14,702
    Quote Originally Posted by LaLaw2000 View Post
    I was one of the first people to suggest what you are saying about Ronald's charges and really got pounded by it.

    The gun in the ditch has made no sense. Why would someone steal a gun just to throw it in the ditch? I wonder how close to the house the ditch was? IMO, and just IMO, I think there is something hinky about the gun and just maybe Ronald threw it there himself. It may be an illegal gun and was thrown there so as to not have been in the house when LE responded to the 911 call, IMO.
    ITA....Makes no sense at all.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

  23. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    11,266
    Quote Originally Posted by suzannec4444 View Post
    I'm very interested in this gun.Can you or any one tell me more on the story about the gun and how and where in the ditch it was found?
    All I know is that Misty's cousin from Tennessee supposedly had a fight with Ronald. It was supposedly over the cousin having stolen a gun from him.

    Ronald has since denied that he had a fight with Misty's cousin. I, too, want to know where this ditch is and the details about the gun. Heck, I don't even remember where I heard about the fight and stolen gun!!!
    **May God Watch Over All Missing and Abused Children**

  24. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,804
    Quote Originally Posted by LaLaw2000 View Post
    All I know is that Misty's cousin from Tennessee supposedly had a fight with Ronald. It was supposedly over the cousin having stolen a gun from him.

    Ronald has since denied that he had a fight with Misty's cousin. I, too, want to know where this ditch is and the details about the gun. Heck, I don't even remember where I heard about the fight and stolen gun!!!
    Thank you very much for answering me.Maybe some one will know and answer our questions.
    ALL EVIL NEEDS TO SUCCEED IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING!!!!

  25. #24
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    11,266
    Quote Originally Posted by suzannec4444 View Post
    Thank you very much for answering me.Maybe some one will know and answer our questions.
    You are welcome!
    **May God Watch Over All Missing and Abused Children**

  26. #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    11,266
    To get back on topic here, I call the green thing on the chair back a tie down. The metal part would be to ratchet it tighter. It did not appear to be faded from the sun, so I think this chair may have been recently constructed. I would like to see a pic of the shovel found. Is it in a pic somewhere?
    **May God Watch Over All Missing and Abused Children**

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. The Use of the Shovel
    By not_my_kids in forum Caylee Anthony 2 years old
    Replies: 346
    Last Post: 06-09-2011, 02:01 PM
  2. FL FL - Lehigh Acres - Human Skull by makeshift cross, Aug 2007
    By Ms Suzanne in forum The Unidentified
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 01-28-2011, 05:16 PM
  3. Makeshift shrine to dead baby actually turned out to be chicken
    By Casshew in forum Bizarre and Off-Beat News
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-26-2005, 07:48 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •