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    Colon Willoughby and Jim Cooney weigh in on why murder cases take so long

    One year after Eve Carson's death the N & O talks to Colon Willoughby and Charlotte trial attorney Jim Cooney about why murder cases drag on for so long.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1433371.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles View Post
    One year after Eve Carson's death the N & O talks to Colon Willoughby and Charlotte trial attorney Jim Cooney about why murder cases drag on for so long.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1433371.html
    Thanks Skittles - very interesting. The DA hasn't gone for the DP against the jailed one - wonder why since this article seems to imply it is routine to do so. Hmmmm.

    Hope you are well !

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    Thanks for the article, Skittles!

    I was just logging on to see if anyone was around and to send a hello to RC! (Hey RC!)

    I miss chatting with you folks a lot and I wish there were something happening on this case so we could discuss. I haven't started following any other cases (just this one and the M. Young case).

    I'm off to read the article. BTW, our own NBC17 local reporter ChrisC is on Twitter so I follow his stuff there, but he's been off writing about other news items in the area.

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    The DA hasn't gone for the DP against the jailed one - wonder why since this article seems to imply it is routine to do so.
    Ah yes, the $64K question. Perhaps because he was/is a Canadian citizen gives them some pause, along with the fact that he had no prior crimes, and has 2 small children. I suspect all those things had bearing on this decision. Maybe in conversations with the Rentz family the DA learned that the family would be fine with no DP being part of the deal (perhaps that was their preference)? Or maybe the DA thought they simply could not get a DP sentence based on the merits of the case and figured it was better not to try for it. The mystery of the Willoughby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    Ah yes, the $64K question. Perhaps because he was/is a Canadian citizen gives them some pause, along with the fact that he had no prior crimes, and has 2 small children. I suspect all those things had bearing on this decision. Maybe in conversations with the Rentz family the DA learned that the family would be fine with no DP being part of the deal (perhaps that was their preference)? Or maybe the DA thought they simply could not get a DP sentence based on the merits of the case and figured it was better not to try for it. The mystery of the Willoughby!

    Hello Sleuthy Gal ! Hope you are well and yes I sure do wish we would start getting information on proceedings in the case against Mr. Cooper, the jailed one. Must be a lot of stuff involved, last we heard, BC had requested another lawyer to assist going through it all in preparation for trial. (Code for figuring ways to delay - two defense team heads better than one for inventing excuses)



    "The mystery of the Willoughby"

    Sure can't figure the guy for sure, has shown a ton of information in probable cause sections of warrants in the Michelle Young case against the Slayer but still no arrest. Wish the Willoughby was a bit more along the lines of Judge Sasser, who refuses to ignore elephants ! It will be interesting to see if DA Willoughby will pursue the DP against JY. I will be very surprised if not.

    Have been thinking about Nancy quite a bit lately - remembering the time line.

    Hope all of you are well !!!

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    Hey RC and SG! Glad to hear from you both. It's tough waiting for Willoughby to take action, and I didn't even know Nancy. Can't imagine what it's like for her friends and family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles View Post
    Hey RC and SG! Glad to hear from you both. It's tough waiting for Willoughby to take action, and I didn't even know Nancy. Can't imagine what it's like for her friends and family.
    It has to be very tough for them but at least the alledged criminal remains in jail, a small comfort there at least. Hopefully the little ones are doing well.

    Given Kurtz & Blooms track record before BC was arrested, I have to say I am a tad surprised they haven't made a ton of motions already. Very surprised they have not attempted to even revisit the issue of bond - the judge gave them the opportunity to do so during the last appearance. Guess no one wants to risk putting up the money to get him out of jail. Perhaps soon.

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    I see you are on it Skittles - re: your post today in the media thread.

    Note there will be a permanent custody hearing in June !

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Very surprised they have not attempted to even revisit the issue of bond - the judge gave them the opportunity to do so during the last appearance. Guess no one wants to risk putting up the money to get him out of jail. Perhaps soon.
    Hey RC! According to what was in the myNC.com article 3 weeks ago, "At a trial status update hearing Thursday, Judge Donald Stephens opted not to revisit the bond issue, and Cooper's attorney decided not to ask him to; had attorney Howard Kurtz made that request, some of the state's evidence would have been made public.".... "The state has provided some 40 compact discs worth of discovery to the defense."

    They sure don't want the public to know what evidence exists on those 40 CDs pointing to their client ahead of the trial, that's for sure! Strategic move. He's stays for now rather than risk people knowing what the state has on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    Hey RC! According to what was in the myNC.com article 3 weeks ago, "At a trial status update hearing Thursday, Judge Donald Stephens opted not to revisit the bond issue, and Cooper's attorney decided not to ask him to; had attorney Howard Kurtz made that request, some of the state's evidence would have been made public.".... "The state has provided some 40 compact discs worth of discovery to the defense."

    They sure don't want the public to know what evidence exists on those 40 CDs pointing to their client ahead of the trial, that's for sure! Strategic move. He's stays for now rather than risk people knowing what the state has on him.
    Guess I missed the link about that hearing altogether. Holy cow - 40 CDs of evidence - would I ever like to take a look at those ! Looks like his attorney has lost some of that swagger - must have finally got the whole autopsy plus notes they were looking for. I suspect they didn't like it much if BC is willing to keep hanging out in jail aye ?

    Thanks for the info on that - I totally missed it !

    wowsers good place for him.


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    Also, at the hearing in December Kurtz asked for Bond so BC could go back to work and not lose his job. Yesterday's WTVD report said BC got his "final check from his former employer, Cisco Systems." I guess he doesn't need to go back to work now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Thanks Skittles - very interesting. The DA hasn't gone for the DP against the jailed one - wonder why since this article seems to imply it is routine to do so. Hmmmm.

    Hope you are well !
    Hi Bubba!

    Here's your answer:

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081184/

    Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens ruled the case doesn't qualify for capital punishment after prosecutors said in a Friday morning hearing that there were no aggravating factors in the case, such as the commission of another crime that led to Nancy Cooper's death.

    "Based on the investigation our office is aware of working with the Cary Police Department, we don't believe at this time there are any aggravating factors to proceed capitally," Assistant Wake County District Attorney Howard Cummings said.

    ~~~~~

    If we had something like Florida's Sunshine laws, we would have access to those 40 CDs. Makes your mind reel..........
    As I received information, and relayed it to the defendant after her arrest, she continued to claim ignorance and at times, laughed at the situation. She still failed to show any outward signs of remorse or concern for her missing two year old daughter.
    --Yuri Melich, arrest warrant, July 16, 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star12 View Post
    Hi Bubba!

    Here's your answer:

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4081184/

    Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens ruled the case doesn't qualify for capital punishment after prosecutors said in a Friday morning hearing that there were no aggravating factors in the case, such as the commission of another crime that led to Nancy Cooper's death.

    "Based on the investigation our office is aware of working with the Cary Police Department, we don't believe at this time there are any aggravating factors to proceed capitally," Assistant Wake County District Attorney Howard Cummings said.

    ~~~~~

    If we had something like Florida's Sunshine laws, we would have access to those 40 CDs. Makes your mind reel..........
    Hey hey Star - good to see you too! I sure do want to know what is on those 40 CDs. Poor BC had to ask for a second lawyer to get through it all. I bet we could have it diagnosed, sliced, diced, and completely figured in a week or less

    As to aggravating factors, just my opinion but the law sometimes doesn't seem to have a good grasp on aggravation. We have a pretty darn good idea of what Nancy and those kids went through for the 6 months preceeding Nancy's death. I'd say that was pretty darn aggravating, in fact down right cruel and inhumane treatment more precisely. Makes those shots on the gurney seem extremely humane to me.

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    [QUOTE=raisincharlie;3432889]I see you are on it Skittles - re: your post today in the media thread.

    Note there will be a permanent custody hearing in June ![/QUOTE]

    Bold by me.

    RC, where did you see that about the June 1 custody hearing? And please tell me there is no chance. He certainly can't have custody in jail, can he? Well, yes, I've heard of it before, but DANG, please NO!
    As I received information, and relayed it to the defendant after her arrest, she continued to claim ignorance and at times, laughed at the situation. She still failed to show any outward signs of remorse or concern for her missing two year old daughter.
    --Yuri Melich, arrest warrant, July 16, 2008

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    [quote=Star12;3435167]
    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    I see you are on it Skittles - re: your post today in the media thread.

    Note there will be a permanent custody hearing in June ![/QUOTE]

    Bold by me.

    RC, where did you see that about the June 1 custody hearing? And please tell me there is no chance. He certainly can't have custody in jail, can he? Well, yes, I've heard of it before, but DANG, please NO!
    Here you go Star:

    http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/4699799/


    "A permanent custody hearing is scheduled for June.
    Brad Cooper remains in the Wake County jail, where he is being held without bond."


    At the end of the article,

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