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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
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    I'm shocked that DS had the audicity to show up to offer donations with an ankle bracelet on! It makes me think of all the instances where the perp has tried and/or succeeded in enmeshing himself with the victim's family or the investigation. My hinky meter exploded. The article had double impact for me because of the posts we had yesterday that seemed to describe this individual and the pictures of the propery he lives on, that were published in the local media not long ago.

    I want LE to go back to this guy's house, again and again. The article says he was NOT near Haleigh, BUT Haleigh could have been near him.

    I don't remember the address on this SSO or how far away it is from Green Lane - I'll have to go look again.

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    IMO, ankle bracelets are USELESS. See the attached link for more information.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03...ef=mpstoryview

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    Quote Originally Posted by aksleuth View Post
    Sometimes those ankle bracelets work, just ask rapper C-Murder, aka Corey Miller, brother of rapper Master P (Percy Miller). He's been awaiting retrial for murder under house arrest and wondered out of his allotted zone for 10 minutes, and is now back in the pokey since last week.

    I think any criminal worth his crooked salt would know a way to get around those bracelets. I don't trust them 100%, for sure.
    Ankle monitoring for house arrest is not the same as GPS monitoring for sex offenders. It's two different processes and tracking systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salvarenga View Post
    Ankle monitoring for house arrest is not the same as GPS monitoring for sex offenders. It's two different processes and tracking systems.
    bold by nurse :-) very interesting... what is the difference between the two systems and processes? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by salvarenga View Post
    Ankle monitoring for house arrest is not the same as GPS monitoring for sex offenders. It's two different processes and tracking systems.

    So which is better? Obviously, I have limited knowledge of how these things work. I've learned a lot on these boards and learn something new every day. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salvarenga View Post
    Ankle monitoring for house arrest is not the same as GPS monitoring for sex offenders. It's two different processes and tracking systems.
    Sorry to go off topic but here are the different types of monitoring that are offered by the contractor for FL Dept of Correction:

    http://www.ptm.com/default.asp?PageID=3

    Active, Passive and RF are the most commonly known offender tracking terms describing supervision levels. Pro Tech’s SMART®Ware System now features a fourth mode: the SMART® Alert level. Pro Tech also offers the SMART®ONE - Wearable giving you a body- worn, one-piece option for your offenders.

    SMART®RF – the base unit calls the Surveillance Data Center (SDC) every six hours, or upon violation, to report when your offender arrives at and leaves the home.

    SMART®Passive – the tracking unit calls the SDC when placed in the base unit, and every six hours while docked, to report daily location and violation information.

    SMART®Alert – the tracking unit calls the SDC twice per day under normal conditions to report location; a violation condition turns the unit to active mode and it calls immediately so that the officer is notified in real-time.

    SMART®Active – the tracking unit calls the SDC every hour, or at a “ping” from the officer to report location, and the unit calls immediately upon violation in order to provide real-time information.

    SMART®ONE-Wearable - Complements our two-piece tracking device by offering one-piece convenience in a common user interface.

    Keep in mind, this would also depend on what type of parameters are set up for the individual wearing the device.

    Let's take one of the SO's that live close to Haleigh for example, let's say there restriction was not to be within "X" amount of miles/feet from a school. Then an alarm would not necessarily be sent if they were near Haleigh's home unless it was in the "out of bounds" area.

    All that being said, FL is in a budget crisis just like many other states and I know for a fact there have been cuts in LE related items budget. So if I were to make a guess, I would bet they are using the most cost effective (nice wording for cheap) version of this.

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    GPS/Ankle Bracelets for SO's

    Starting this thread to carry on discussion of the differences between GPS bracelets for those on House Arrest and Ankle bracelets for SOs that are "monitored" generally NOT in real time.

    Salem

    PS - back with some info in just a minute!

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    No one in this case is on House Arrest so at this point it's not relevant to this case is it????????

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    In the beginning, LE said they did a second check at SO/L who is a predator in the area. He was 'out of his range'. I believe the next day or so LE brought him in and questioned what his business was outside the restricted home range.

    It was reported that another SO/ DS had gone to the Haleigh support center just yesterday and was turned away. In the news article, Harris/an indie journalist & his colleague Regan, both organizers for this support and charity center, asked DS if he had an ankle bracelet on and he told them he did.
    03/17/09 5PM Report "Haleigh Charity Organizers Refuse Donations From Accused Sexual Criminal": VIDEO 1:27
    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...ect=1063993751
    Article:
    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/a...4030&catid=295

    A good question was raised by SALVARANGA whose full post is above:

    'Let's take one of the SO's that live close to Haleigh for example, let's say there restriction was not to be within "X" amount of miles/feet from a school. Then an alarm would not necessarily be sent if they were near Haleigh's home unless it was in the "out of bounds" area.

    I think the subject is worthy of some conversation.

    If you don't think it's relevant to this case, then I guess closing this thread would be in order.

    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    No one in this case is on House Arrest so at this point it's not relevant to this case is it????????
    TG - I don't think anyone is on house arrest. But there are at least 2 SOs very near the home that are on house monitoring and required to wear bracelets. Apparently, there are different ways to monitor these bracelets, some more effective then others. Typically SOs are not monitored in real time.

    I do think it is important to this case and who may have had opportunity to take Haleigh.

    Would it be helpful to change the title to just GPS/Monitoring Devices or Monitoring of SOs with GPS Devices or something?

    Thanks,

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    Respectfully; I do not agree that the ankle bracelet monitor is useless. Also, those wearing the bracelet get to go to the store and also go to work if they have a job that is approved.

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    I'm so glad you opened this thread. I posted this question on another thread and it was deleted (I think for being off topic).

    What confuses me is that the alleged SO who went to the Satsuma Command Center is out on bail. How does a monitoring system that tracks where he has been protect his alleged victim or any other potential victim.

    I guess I'm not understanding why he was granted bail and then provided with a monitoring device that would permit him the amount of freedom he obviously has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    No one in this case is on House Arrest so at this point it's not relevant to this case is it????????
    Only if we can start locking 'em up at home until we get all the answers we want, NOW!

    Of course, they probably won't take my suggestion into consideration. Gosh darn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaymus at The Rock View Post
    I'm so glad you opened this thread. I posted this question on another thread and it was deleted (I think for being off topic).

    What confuses me is that the alleged SO who went to the Satsuma Command Center is out on bail. How does a monitoring system that tracks where he has been protect his alleged victim or any other potential victim.

    I guess I'm not understanding why he was granted bail and then provided with a monitoring device that would permit him the amount of freedom he obviously has.
    This is a great question and why this thread was started. The SO that went to the command center has not yet been to court and convicted of the crimes he has been charged with. But it is painfully obvious that he is allowed to move around whereever. He is NOT being monitored in real time, but "checked on" after the fact at some point, who knows when!

    The Loukis guy (can't remember how to spell his name) also was NOT being monitored in real time. If he was monitored in real time, they would have picked him up the minute he stepped outside his boundaries. BUT no, they don't question him or even look for him until a little girl goes missing.

    Makes one feel really safe doesn't it? How does this help us protect our children? It doesn't. All it does for us is help us catch the perp AFTER the fact. In my opinion - that's too late. And it is downright scary that more and more courts are going to this sort of monitoring system.

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    They should all be put on island somewhere

    Look,i know they have rights but are kids should have more rights.

    I'm sorry most of the rso do end up doing it again. I dont think that bracelet is going to stop them,

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    http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstor...zdQ5NJSMw.cspx

    I'm putting this here because it is about Snodgrass. Maybe is should go in one of the other threads?

    I am so frustrated. LE says they have questioned him, BUT have they searched his property? I think his showing up at the search center should lead to probable cause for a search warrant!!!!!

    How can this investigation be stalled? Something is wrong here.

    Salem

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