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    I'm definitely on 'TEAM SP' so this isn't a bash but it seems to me she intentionally played the 'hard of hearing' act on them when her purpose was to protect CA!..She was 'dumb as a fox' with the same intention on a few other occasions..I may be off-base (?) but did LE come away with the same impression? Wish I knew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    I'm definitely on 'TEAM SP' so this isn't a bash but it seems to me she intentionally played the 'hard of hearing' act on them when her purpose was to protect CA!..She was 'dumb as a fox' with the same intention on a few other occasions..I may be off-base (?) but did LE come away with the same impression? Wish I knew!

    I don't see it that way ... she established the HOH thing early in the interview about the cat ... she misunderstood the investigator who said "there's your cat." and answered "Do I have a cat?" Then she couldn't hear the cat's bell ringing either. My dear dad was HOH and there were many times that he misunderstood things or didn't hear them at all ... and sometimes he could hear and respond perfectly appropriately ... from what I know it has more to do with the frequency or tone of the sound ... for example he understood my children better than me or my husband, becuase they had higher voices than we had.

    FWIW ... I found SP to be endearing and honest. I would love to adopt her as my Grandma!
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    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
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    Hmmmm a locker at the Hard Rock Hotel? It always comes back to me that in many of the lies Casey tells there is some tiny crystal of truth ... I wonder if LE looked into that ... if she has a locker rented at the HRH? If so what might they find there ... besides all of her "money" of course!

    http://www.clickorlando.com/download...0/18973896.pdf (page 40 line 6)

    The HRH Orlando does have lockers available in the fitness center. I don't know how long one can rent a locker there ... but Casey has mentioned the HRH before per Cindy ... that she was staying there on a night when she was "working" late and had to be at "work" early the next morning ...

    http://www.universalorlando.com/hote...ecreation.html
    Lockers
    Separate for men and women with full amenities, lush towels, quiet area, etc.
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    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lookieloo View Post
    Even though I think the detectives overall did a fine job, I must say I am not very impressed with their interviewing style. It's hard for the person they are talking with to complete a thought. They don't wait long enough for the person to answer. They interrupt constantly.
    I think they came there with a few things in mind...one being "Would Casey talk to you?" With the answer being "no", time to move on. IMO they cut to the chase...kept it simple. I've found this to happen in many of the interviews. This asked/answered approach doesn't leave much room for elaboration or chichat IMO. They know what they're looking for...we, unfortunately, don't (but, speculation works! LOL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    Hmmmm a locker at the Hard Rock Hotel? It always comes back to me that in many of the lies Casey tells there is some tiny crystal of truth ... I wonder if LE looked into that ... if she has a locker rented at the HRH? If so what might they find there ... besides all of her "money" of course!

    http://www.clickorlando.com/download...0/18973896.pdf (page 40 line 6)
    I've stayed at that hotel many times and don't know what the heck she's talking about!! There are lockers over at Universal to hold belongings, but can't imagine her hiding money there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    How could George have any kind of retirement account when he only worked as a Deputy Sheriff for a little over 10 years? Don't you need at least 20 years for something like that? The Sheriff job seems to be the longest stretch he was ever employed anywhere as far as we know.
    http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jul/2...as-local-ties/
    Most likely SP is referring to an IRA account which is not employer related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I've stayed at that hotel many times and don't know what the heck she's talking about!! There are lockers over at Universal to hold belongings, but can't imagine her hiding money there.

    I added to my post above to include a link for the HRH fitness facilities where they have "lockers" that can be rented in their fitness facility ... Probably nothing ... but at this point I want to uncover all of Casey's "hidy-holes"!
    Clue: Satsuma Edition

    It was the psycho-sicko in the trailer park with a brick-o-block!

    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
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    Can't believe she is 4!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I don't see it that way ... she established the HOH thing early in the interview about the cat ... she misunderstood the investigator who said "there's your cat." and answered "Do I have a cat?" Then she couldn't hear the cat's bell ringing either. My dear dad was HOH and there were many times that he misunderstood things or didn't hear them at all ... and sometimes he could hear and respond perfectly appropriately ... from what I know it has more to do with the frequency or tone of the sound ... for example he understood my children better than me or my husband, becuase they had higher voices than we had.

    FWIW ... I found SP to be endearing and honest. I would love to adopt her as my Grandma!
    I posted yesterday re: "Do I have a cat"? in another thread..I thought she was SENILE but realized I was very wrong as the interview progressed..My take then became she had just repeated back what one of them had said to her..I can't go back over the entire interview right now to give any examples of why I think she intentionally played HOH or "dumb as a fox' but it wasn't often & always seemed to be in regards to something incriminating/negative re: CA.

    I do get your take on HOH (in general) & even if I'm off-base I would also love to adopt her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    I posted yesterday re: "Do I have a cat"? in another thread..I thought she was SENILE but realized I was very wrong as the interview progressed..My take then became she had just repeated back what one of them had said to her..I can't go back over the entire interview right now to give any examples of why I think she intentionally played HOH or "dumb as a fox' but it wasn't often & always seemed to be in regards to something incriminating/negative re: CA.

    I do get your take on HOH (in general) & even if I'm off-base I would also love to adopt her!

    You know it was funny when I read your "dumb as a fox" post I immediately thought of my Dad ... when we first found out that he had partial deafness but could still hear many things clearly ... eg, without repeating them or saying them louder ... we all (my mom, brothers, sisters and myself) accused him of having "selective hearing" ... it was really only after I failed a hearing test at work and looked into it, that I learned about the different aspects of hearing loss, and why one could hear some things and not others ... I am only in my 30's ... but ... turns out that, from ear infections when I was very young, I have horrible mid-frequency hearing loss. I have butchered song lyrics my whole life, however I can hear my next door neighbor’s car idling from inside my house.
    Clue: Satsuma Edition

    It was the psycho-sicko in the trailer park with a brick-o-block!

    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Can't believe she is 4!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I added to my post above to include a link for the HRH fitness facilities where they have "lockers" that can be rented in their fitness facility ... Probably nothing ... but at this point I want to uncover all of Casey's "hidy-holes"!
    Not a big facility. Ousiders wouldn't really join. It's not that kind of place (though the spa is nice). There wasn't a fee for lockers, just use of the center. I didn't see a sign for "rentals", but as I was a guest may not have noticed. It would be too much work for her to access the place...with parking and everything. IMO...it's just more hogwash.

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    So can we put to rest GA being involved with a Nigerian get rich scheme? Seems like just a good 'ole gambling problem to me.
    Or porn.
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    SP was very informative and very honest and forthcoming with her answers! Such a drastic difference from CA! I cannot understand how KC (her child living under her own roof) was able to run up $45,000 of debt in CA name... although I believe it. Once again, KC was not prosecuted or held accountable for her actions - instead it was most likely "swept under the rug by CA, and denied as being a big problem." I see this as a big problem. I see it as a sign of hostility, resentment and perpetration against her mother CA. (The bills had to be coming in...creditors had to be calling...CA knew she didn't run up the debt)....my question is why not prosecute KC, get custody of Caylee and start family counseling? I guess hindsight is 20/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debbie0604 View Post
    SP was very informative and very honest and forthcoming with her answers! Such a drastic difference from CA! I cannot understand how KC (her child living under her own roof) was able to run up $45,000 of debt in CA name... although I believe it. Once again, KC was not prosecuted or held accountable for her actions - instead it was most likely "swept under the rug by CA, and denied as being a big problem." I see this as a big problem. I see it as a sign of hostility, resentment and perpetration against her mother CA. (The bills had to be coming in...creditors had to be calling...CA knew she didn't run up the debt)....my question is why not prosecute KC, get custody of Caylee and start family counseling? I guess hindsight is 20/20.
    I agree, but I think anger was fueling CA's behavior if what SP said was true... Casey was out of control. She would have had to get beyond that. I think there was a cycle of abuse going on in that home, obviously emotional in nature. Unfortunately, CA hadn't gotten to the point of recognizing it and seeing her role in it as well as Casey's. I wish she had stuck with the counseling and learned the tools necessary to break the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    You know it was funny when I read your "dumb as a fox" post I immediately thought of my Dad ... when we first found out that he had partial deafness but could still hear many things clearly ... eg, without repeating them or saying them louder ... we all (my mom, brothers, sisters and myself) accused him of having "selective hearing" ... it was really only after I failed a hearing test at work and looked into it, that I learned about the different aspects of hearing loss, and why one could hear some things and not others ... I am only in my 30's ... but ... turns out that, from ear infections when I was very young, I have horrible mid-frequency hearing loss. I have butchered song lyrics my whole life, however I can hear my next door neighbor’s car idling from inside my house.
    My FIL is HOH & his wife's been saying "selective hearing" to him for years..He refuses to get a hearing aid..It's very frustrating!..I will pass along what you said & hopefully it will help her deal better with it!

    Sorry to hear (no pun) about your condition..

    The "idle car next door"..Really?..I'm not sure I can (could be I've not paid attention) but I'm going to find out!..I've always blamed my major problem with "song lyrics" on the singer..Many are so darn hard to understand but thinking about it now it may be some (not all) of it is really MY problem!

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    Rick

    I remember following a forum on another board late last summer (is that all? why does it seem like eons ago?!) and a new poster started defending the Anthony family. Not KC, but the rest of the family. After a few days, he identified himself as Rick.

    As per usual, there were more than a few who disbelieved him. He did reveal enough to one of the mods that it was determined that he was who he said he was. He provided pictures from his wedding showing the A's, Shirley and himself publicly. (That was the first time I'd seen the pic of KC preggers.) He continued to defend CA until their email exchange (which he also provided).

    So when LE tells SP in late August that Rick was defending the A's, I believe they were telling her the truth as it were at the time.

    JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    Or porn.
    How expensive is that? I have NO clue!

    Do you?

    J/K!

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    Quote Originally Posted by debbie0604 View Post
    SP was very informative and very honest and forthcoming with her answers! Such a drastic difference from CA! I cannot understand how KC (her child living under her own roof) was able to run up $45,000 of debt in CA name... although I believe it. Once again, KC was not prosecuted or held accountable for her actions - instead it was most likely "swept under the rug by CA, and denied as being a big problem." I see this as a big problem. I see it as a sign of hostility, resentment and perpetration against her mother CA. (The bills had to be coming in...creditors had to be calling...CA knew she didn't run up the debt)....my question is why not prosecute KC, get custody of Caylee and start family counseling? I guess hindsight is 20/20.
    I kind of disagree. I think SP was holding a lot back and playing the "selective memory" game when it came to any questions about CA. It is obvious that she had already gotten in trouble with CA because of Rick, and she didn't want to go there again. Also, Cindy had a discussion with her about talking to the cops. SP said that Cindy told her to use common sense. That could mean anything! It could be Cindy's way of telling her not to say a damn word about the family, after all... that is Cindy's idea of common sense. I can see where Cindy got the "protect my daughter" gene.

    It would be interesting to see an interview with SP now that Caylee's been found dead to see why she thinks Cindy is covering for KC still.

    Now, I do agree that she was open and honest about KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I don't see it that way ... she established the HOH thing early in the interview about the cat ... she misunderstood the investigator who said "there's your cat." and answered "Do I have a cat?" Then she couldn't hear the cat's bell ringing either. My dear dad was HOH and there were many times that he misunderstood things or didn't hear them at all ... and sometimes he could hear and respond perfectly appropriately ... from what I know it has more to do with the frequency or tone of the sound ... for example he understood my children better than me or my husband, becuase they had higher voices than we had.

    FWIW ... I found SP to be endearing and honest. I would love to adopt her as my Grandma!
    Regarding the bold: Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't understand that part of the interview. I thought she had alzheimers or somethings and forgot she had a cat already....her interview was heartbreaking. She sounds like a family member not affected by the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I added to my post above to include a link for the HRH fitness facilities where they have "lockers" that can be rented in their fitness facility ... Probably nothing ... but at this point I want to uncover all of Casey's "hidy-holes"!
    That is the first time I have heard about a locker. I would guess she did have a locker or rented room some place. This would go along with changing her ID to ZG. I really believe this theory. If she was doing this and fixin to hit the road-----she would need a place to store some of her stuff (cash)----maybe the air port. Hope LE has checked all this out.

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    I have to give a thumbs up for SP...unfortunately, her parenting style didn't take with CA for KC!

    If it had...just think of how all of this could have turned out differently.

    I really liked how YM & the FBI agent reassured her that her son had not bashed the family but, was honestly discussing his opinions on WS.

    Personally, CA is such a KC for trying to pit her mother against her own son...pathetic, just like her daughter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabellamoure View Post
    I have to give a thumbs up for SP...unfortunately, her parenting style didn't take with CA for KC!

    If it had...just think of how all of this could have turned out differently.

    I really liked how YM & the FBI agent reassured her that her son had not bashed the family but, was honestly discussing his opinions on WS.

    Personally, CA is such a KC for trying to pit her mother against her own son...pathetic, just like her daughter!

    I LOVE SP ... you can't help it. But I do notice that she is quick to admonish the investigators for any blame of CA ... and she repeatedly excuses CA's actions and deeds ...

    Who does that sound like?

    An apple falls from the tree and seeds a new apple tree ... an apple falls from that tree ... and so on ... pretty soon you have an orchard of denial!
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    It was the psycho-sicko in the trailer park with a brick-o-block!

    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
    How expensive is that? I have NO clue!

    Do you?

    J/K!


    I was hoping you knew.
    Seriously, do sites such as gambling or porn set you up with a CC to pay online?
    Justice for CAYLEE

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    And Shirley is precious! I laughed and laughed. Between Shirley and YM, JA, SB and UM, omgosh!! Too funny!
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    Now that I think about it more, Cindy's advice to "use common sense" when talking to the cops should raise lots of red flags.
    Cindy should have said, "Be honest" or "tell them everything you know." The words "use common sense" imply that she is advising SP to be cautious, don't share anything with them she doesn't have to. It was clear SP was thinking this interview was going to get her in trouble with Cindy again.
    I would love to know what Cindy has been telling all of KC's friends in these "meetings" she keeps having.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    And Shirley is precious! I laughed and laughed. Between Shirley and YM, JA, SB and UM, omgosh!! Too funny!

    I know! When they were talking about accessing the blogs ... she said ... "well Cindy said 'oh, you just press, you know, just click on them.' Well, I couldn't get them to come up" ... "I got that thing, and all I can do is write an email" ... "so you don't have to worry about me putting anything on (the blogs) ... "if somebody could just sit down and show me a few minutes." ... I thought that was so cute! I can just imagine me teaching my own mom how to blog! I think that she is going to be one of the State's strongest witnesses! I hate that she is being placed in this position though ... I know that it is hard beyond belief!
    Clue: Satsuma Edition

    It was the psycho-sicko in the trailer park with a brick-o-block!

    "Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations" ~ "inside" motto of the CIA and the entire Anthony family!
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Can't believe she is 4!!



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