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    50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #5

    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    No, I don't think he was raised, although you are right about the number we have gone through...it is amazing really.

    Let's get a consensus for this man-his square shaped face, dental plate and nose don't do it for me, and I wonder why police feel he was murdered vs just missing from his life. On initial read, it looks almost like the perfect walk away to me...
    Have any of you heard that BK is missing some front teeth? I've been searching all day today and found this article http://blogs.discovery.com/sleuth_tr...or-not-to.html
    and remembered reading that Thomas Gregory Demyon was missing his front teeth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaconChange View Post
    Have any of you heard that BK is missing some front teeth? I've been searching all day today and found this article http://blogs.discovery.com/sleuth_tr...or-not-to.html
    and remembered reading that Thomas Gregory Demyon was missing his front teeth.

    BK does have distinct dentals-IIRC no one could tell whether the replaced teeth were as a result of his beating or prior. We know that Demyon has some kind of dental that could be compared...
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    Ack, I hadn't realized that Benjaman had teeth missing when found! Not sure how I missed that info before. When I looked at Thomas Demyon at charleyproject I read about the partial plate and would have dismissed him in my mind due to that.

    I would think it would have been farily easy for a dentist to tell if Benjaman's lost teeth were a recent occurance or older. Older would certainly have healed gums.


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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    No, I don't think he was raised, although you are right about the number we have gone through...it is amazing really.

    Let's get a consensus for this man-his square shaped face, dental plate and nose don't do it for me, and I wonder why police feel he was murdered vs just missing from his life. On initial read, it looks almost like the perfect walk away to me...
    You know I kind of had that same feeling too at first but then I realized the area he's in (lived and where car was found) coupled with his gambling habits, debts mentioned and close vicinity of horse racing tracks.... kind of led me to think in a darker area.

    As far as his face: Studied the nose alot and it doesn't seem that the nasal opening goes as far back (from tip of nose to cheek area) as BK's does in a side shot. I wish Demyon didn't have that hat on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snowme View Post
    Ack, I hadn't realized that Benjaman had teeth missing when found! Not sure how I missed that info before. When I looked at Thomas Demyon at charleyproject I read about the partial plate and would have dismissed him in my mind due to that.

    I would think it would have been farily easy for a dentist to tell if Benjaman's lost teeth were a recent occurance or older. Older would certainly have healed gums.

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    50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #5

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    BEFORE YOU POST A MISSING PERSON FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE READ THE NEW STICKY THREAD "READ HERE FIRST/DISCUSSION FROM THE 50-60 YR OLD THREADS 1,2,3" ON THE FRONT PAGE OF BENJAMAN KYLE THREADS.
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    Question?

    I am not sure who to ask, but in the start of each of these new threads, is it possible for someone to post the basics? (ie: date the person "might" have been missing, characteristics, etc...) Just a rundown of where we're aiming?

    (I am asking more because after viewing many threads, it's hard to keep the "certains" in order, from each case.)

    Thank you all!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    I am not sure who to ask, but in the start of each of these new threads, is it possible for someone to post the basics? (ie: date the person "might" have been missing, characteristics, etc...) Just a rundown of where we're aiming?

    (I am asking more because after viewing many threads, it's hard to keep the "certains" in order, from each case.)

    Thank you all!
    I didn't write this down, but I can tell you what thread it came off of and approximate page number, then you can look in that thread, will that help?
    I didn't want to congest the thread with particulars on each case. Each one of these have already been discussed, but seems there are some still open for more discussion. If you do start a discussion on a missing person from the new sticky thread, please put the links from the old discussion into new discussion on this thread. Am I making sense?
    Just in case I am not, I will post a discussion shortly in here for you to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carolwood View Post
    I didn't write this down, but I can tell you what thread it came off of and approximate page number, then you can look in that thread, will that help?
    I didn't want to congest the thread with particulars on each case. Each one of these have already been discussed, but seems there are some still open for more discussion. If you do start a discussion on a missing person from the new sticky thread, please put the links from the old discussion into new discussion on this thread. Am I making sense?
    Just in case I am not, I will post a discussion shortly in here for you to see.
    I didn't want to congest the thread with my question, but I did wonder if others thought it would be a timesaver if there was a "snippet" of important points to consider when making a comparison or reading. (I'm sorry carolwood, my memory is shot to a degree and I wasn't sure if others had problems recalling particulars.) You are all an inspiration and keep up the good work! You make good sense, I'm just easily confused! LOL!


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    William Wright North:
    missing 4-22-1999
    age now:56
    brown hair, black eyes
    160 lbs, 5'10" tall

    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200300485W

    thread 1, post #7 from:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53847

    see also post 30:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...5W#post1698011

    thread 2, #286:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...th#post1768492

    (this is a example and not a complete list of the posts that are on 1,2,and 3)

    It is hard to find alot of them by names, but if you search for them by the numbers posted on the board, for instance above on Williams, A200300485, this number is listed on post #7, thread 1, and are the last numbers in the post. Sometimes these numbers can be a big help.

    Now open for discussion.

    *If he has been ruled out, please advise with a link, thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    I didn't want to congest the thread with my question, but I did wonder if others thought it would be a timesaver if there was a "snippet" of important points to consider when making a comparison or reading. (I'm sorry carolwood, my memory is shot to a degree and I wasn't sure if others had problems recalling particulars.) You are all an inspiration and keep up the good work! You make good sense, I'm just easily confused! LOL!
    No, I absolutely agree, and snipets will be even better but on the new discussion here on this thread.

    I will do this over the weekend, putting the thread it came off of and the post numbers, that I come up with, on the sticky thread.


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    for your sticky!!!
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    Forgive me for asking what may be silly sounding and perhaps already discussed... something struck me as I read dreamweaver's latest post in the theories thread.

    Was Benjaman found with his eyes open? I went back to the first discussion thread and see it noted that he was found shortly before 7 a.m. August 31, 2004 (which would have been a Tuesday morning, I believe). According to: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...&afl=-11&day=1 the sun rose at 6:59 a.m. in Savannah that morning.

    Regarding the cataracts and damage to his eyes... this wouldn't have allowed time for the intense amount of damage that he suffered.

    what am I missing or misconstruing? Was he there, laying naked beside the dumpster, the entire day before (Monday) and absolutely no one caught a glimpse of him?!! Eyes open or not, I would think an entire day or at least hours of direct, intense sun exposure would have been needed to do damage... but he was found before sunrise. (I'm thinking I've obviously missed or forgotten lengthy discussion on this point.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowme View Post
    Forgive me for asking what may be silly sounding and perhaps already discussed... something struck me as I read dreamweaver's latest post in the theories thread.

    Was Benjaman found with his eyes open? I went back to the first discussion thread and see it noted that he was found shortly before 7 a.m. August 31, 2004 (which would have been a Tuesday morning, I believe). According to: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...&afl=-11&day=1 the sun rose at 6:59 a.m. in Savannah that morning.

    Regarding the cataracts and damage to his eyes... this wouldn't have allowed time for the intense amount of damage that he suffered.

    what am I missing or misconstruing? Was he there, laying naked beside the dumpster, the entire day before (Monday) and absolutely no one caught a glimpse of him?!! Eyes open or not, I would think an entire day or at least hours of direct, intense sun exposure would have been needed to do damage... but he was found before sunrise. (I'm thinking I've obviously missed or forgotten lengthy discussion on this point.)
    You have it just about right-we have done much speculating on the possible length of time he might have been there, assuming the folks at BK dumped the garbage at least once per day. IIRC the most we came up with was something like 19 hours-of that time, what was actual daylight and was he in the direct sun long enough to 1.) get sunburned and 2.) have cataracts form but not have burned retina's.

    This is where I diverge from what has been reported-I believe (just my own opinion) that BK's field of vision was closing or clouded by cataracts before he was injured-I think eyes open in the direct sun would have caused damage to his retina's rather than cataracts to form....even if they were traumatic cataracts. Again, just my opinion as a lay person. Further, when his vision was restored, he thought he had lost 20 years in his appearance.

    Beyond that, he was still sweating when he was found-so I don't believe he was in shock or on the verge of sun-stroke.

    I would have to believe that there would be frequent trips to the dumpsters during the hours they were open-yet there was a cleaning woman who found him early in the AM lying there. And long enough to be chewed up by fire ants. Ugh.
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