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    2008.09.05 - Richard Grund Interview with OCSO

    I just listened to this, some very interesting info here. Richard talks about trying to "reach out" to George and the inner workings of the family. Richard also says that in one conversation with Cindy he tells her that her and George knew Jesse was not Caylee's father before he ever took a paternity test, because the dates were off. He tells Cindy that they were willing to let him continue on as Caylee's father, even when they knew it wasn't biologically possible. Cindy's response to this was that they didn't make him, Jesse, continue a relationship with Casey.

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    Another interesting part of the interview was when Richard G. tells Detectives, that Jesse told him, that Lee said there was a fight on the 15th and Cindy did have her hands around Casey's neck. Richard said it was plain that Cindy "wore the pants" in that family, even as far as Caylee was concerned. He tried to reach out to George to talk about what was really going on with Casey and by the time he got to the house George was in hiding for most of the evening and only came out when Richard was leaving, at about 11pm.

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    Interesting stuff here!! Kyle? "Lee's a good kid in a lousy family."

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    Also Richard tells investigators that Cindy told his wife that she could loose "both of her girls with this one".

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    RG came across in that interview as a very intelligent, caring person. His story of going to the vigil to specifically talk to George (at George's invitation) really struck me as to how sneaky and b...less George really is. Imagine, hiding in a back room in order not to face someone. What a coward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexington View Post
    RG came across in that interview as a very intelligent, caring person. His story of going to the vigil to specifically talk to George (at George's invitation) really struck me as to how sneaky and b...less George really is. Imagine, hiding in a back room in order not to face someone. What a coward!
    I agree, that was weak, even for George ! Add to that the fact that all of them have tried to implicate Jesse in this crime. Jesse and his parents took Casey and Caylee in and cared for them, even after it was proven that Jesse was not the father, after it was poven that Casey lied about that to Jesse. I just can NOT imagine how they must feel. They are a whole lot better than I am, I don't think I could ever be so forgiving !

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    This was a very interesting interview! RG was onto a lot of things well before LE had even worked them out! He is also one of the only people interviewed (and there were many) who can actually string a proper sentence together!

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    well, my opinion is anyone that comes in contact with this family is burned one way or another and its just too bad! even cindy's brother and mother tried to help them only to be cut off at the knees.. what do you think the trial will reveal?

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    Also, when Richard calls George, after he sees an attorney on TV mention that Jesse may be involved in Caylee's disappearance, he leaves a message asking if George has any part in the accusations. George doesn't call him back, Cindy does. Cindy tells Richard that George is busy and wants to know what his question is. Unbelievable that George couldn't even call the guy back and talk to him about what was going on. Now George wants to be a part of a missing child organization, where I would think that integrity and honesty are important characteristics...? George needs to continue counseling and get his life back, it's ridiculous.

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    This was probably the most insightful and articulate interview yet. This man is no fool and he seems to have nailed KC very early on. Jesse is lucky to have him.


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    I found it very interesting how he believes the shower incident and KC asking for JG to get her gas after the car was towed were all ways to get DNA or fingerprints and eventually incriminate JG. I definitely think this is a possibility and she was planning to frame JG right after she killed Caylee. What other reason would she have to take a shower over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixi491 View Post
    I found it very interesting how he believes the shower incident and KC asking for JG to get her gas after the car was towed were all ways to get DNA or fingerprints and eventually incriminate JG. I definitely think this is a possibility and she was planning to frame JG right after she killed Caylee. What other reason would she have to take a shower over there?
    She might have been low on funds and was looking for an opportunity to get into JG's wallet when his back was turned. I do think that the shower and gas stories were KC's way of getting incriminating evidence to pin the entire thing on JG. I wonder if the devious KC was able to sneak a personal item out of JG's apartment that day? If JG had brought the gas over to KC, would she have thought up an excuse for leaving his gas can in her trunk with his fingerprints all over it. Would KC have thought up a reason to give JG her car keys, or an extra set, to hold for her so then JG would also have access to the car. IMO JG made a very good decision to not go meet KC at Amscot that night. IMO RG also was very wise to go to LE with all of his theories about KC trying to frame his son.

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    And who is this Kyle R. speaks of ? I don't remember anyone of that name in this case.
    Last edited by Tom'sGirl; 05-07-2009 at 12:16 PM. Reason: last name

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixi491 View Post
    I found it very interesting how he believes the shower incident and KC asking for JG to get her gas after the car was towed were all ways to get DNA or fingerprints and eventually incriminate JG. I definitely think this is a possibility and she was planning to frame JG right after she killed Caylee. What other reason would she have to take a shower over there?
    I thought it was interesting too, I never made a connection between her going over to shower, asking for gas and a possible set up...but, now that it has been mentioned I think it's highly possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Searchfortruth View Post
    I thought it was interesting too, I never made a connection between her going over to shower, asking for gas and a possible set up...but, now that it has been mentioned I think it's highly possible.
    I also recall that around this time, KC wanted JG to go to the beach with her, which never happened. Was this too part of a greater scheme.

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