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  1. #76
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    In my own's nicer here.
    presser from just after the arrest on the right.

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    Please excuse me if I missed something, but if LE is saying the murder happened "not many moments" after Sandra skipped toward MH's house, does that mean she confessed to the how and not to the why?

    I get the impression there was some sort of confession, but there has to be some specific information in her statement. So why no motive?

    Bizarre. Or I guess they're not willing to release a given motive pending further investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Does Tori have a thread? She doesn't deserve to get buried in another thread. I'd have pm'd but you don't have enough posts yet for pm.

    Tori Stafford, we need a thread for her.

    Here you go...

    “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sr.

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    Wow, I am in shock. I want to know motive? Reasoning? Cause of Death? Where was Connie? What happened? I just don't understand. I realize LE said no more expected arrests, anyone suppose that may not be true???
    Caylee, your justice is on the way...

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  8. #80
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    What a shock. I am so glad they made an arrest, I never even entertained the thought that the perp was a woman. what do we know about the church, I mean why is it a place of interest other than Melissa said she went there. Was something found there that we know of?

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  10. #81
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    What she was arrested for tells us something as well- the crime of kidnapping includes holding someone against their will. It can be as much as what we consider everyday kidnapping/child abduction, or as little as in the Joseph Duncan case- tying his victim's hands a few minutes before he killed them.

    So we don't know THAT much, but we can rule out MH accidentally backing up her car and hitting Sandra, and then freaking out and covering for it. That situation could be murder, but not kidnapping. At least for now-MH could always confess to something like that happening and the kidnapping charge would be dropped. But we can assume as of right now the police believe MH detained in one way or another Sandra before she killed her.

    Edit: Here's a link to the CA kidnapping statute. Its wordy, but you get the idea that a kidnapping needs to be intentional. Doesn't cover accidental anything.

    Edit again: The inmate booking report says 207(a):

    207. (a) Every person who forcibly, or by any other means of
    instilling fear, steals or takes, or holds, detains, or arrests any
    person in this state, and carries the person into another country,
    state, or county, or into another part of the same county, is guilty
    of kidnapping.
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    I guess what I'm puzzled about is how could she have carried/lifted the suitcase WITH the body in it? That would be VERY hard for a female to do I would think (and I'm female!).

    In addition, it makes more sense that she would be the person that simply lured the child and someone else did the actual dirty deed or deeds. Is it true that a guy delivered the letter to the memorial? Something just doesn't add up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    They questioned her for 5 hours before arresting her. Just what I've read in the last hour had me horrified. I think she used her trusted Sunday school position to lure Sandra to procure her for child porn/sexual assault, and she has priors and knowledge of the dump area, the church, and it's her suitcase!
    OMH, I just cant believe this. I have officially learned my lesson. Never again will I "assume" that in cases like this , the perp is 99.999999999 % male (who commits crimes like this).

    I cant get to the boards often so maybe I missed all the posts about her.

    Couple of questions, PLEASE.....

    1. Did she teach or witness , ONLY at Clover Baptist ?

    2. Did she teach or witness to Sandra ?

    3. Is she the woman that related to the Lawlwss clan ?

    4. Was it her brown Kia Sorento (SUV)

    <sigh> I wish I had some spare time today to read here.

    Thanks guys & gals ! Yall Rock !!!!!

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    ..being somewhat new at posting I hope I am in the right thread...
    .. Just my thoughts...autopsy report mentioned no trauma seen, could it be evident in toxicology that little Sandra was drugged?
    MH had stated that 2 months there were narcotics found in a little girls blood that had been under the care of her while visiting a park with her daughter.
    This case is just so unbelievable and tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poco View Post
    WHAT????? A woman????? OMG, there has got to be more to this story!
    I agree there is more to the story, but you say that like women are not capable of stuff like this. WE ALL KNOW BETTER, Women can kill just as quickly as a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Sounds like we missed a presser? LE thinks she was killed before she was reported missing.
    This information gives me hope that there is not a 'ring' of internet pervs connection.
    The timeframe appears too short.
    However, that doesn't lessen the horror of what happened to this poor child.

    Is it me - or are more and more women becoming the aggressors in this type of crime (abduction or murder of children)?

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    LE has done a wonderful job!!!
    It's a statement like this that makes me wish we could hit the thanks button over and over and over and over.
    Unless substantiated with a link, all comments are nothing more than my personal opinion. And opinions are like, well, noses; we all have one.

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