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    Everytime something like this happens, I think of the British poet Philip Larkin's line (in "MCMXIV," about WWI): "Never such innocence again." The horrors of this case wake us from peaceful slumber and plunge us into a world of nightmare. Never such innocence again for those of us might imagine we live in a world untouched by the dark hand of the unimaginable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    They have investigated this fully and there are no other people involved. Sgt. Tony Sheneman did a Q and A earlier today on channel 10's website and he specifically stated if anyone else were involved they would have been arrested along with Melissa. There IS NO ONE ELSE responsible or associated to the murder of Sandra Cantu.
    makes it all the more unfathomable...
    you could compare this perpetrator to cancer.. like the most rarest kind of tumor ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Brannagh View Post
    Wow, without a male... that's a good question...

    I think there have been women who have enjoyed it and did it willingly, but with a male partner... for instance the moor murders in the UK and Karla Homolka in Canada.
    Good point. All of the female murders (murderesses?) that come to my mind are women who have killed their own children, not someone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sariebell View Post
    Okay, some of you have way better memories than me. And more of a true-crime history foundation...

    How many women have been arrested for sex crimes against a minor female + murder without a male accomplice? I can't remember hearing of it at all. Intriguing and disturbing...
    I've been wracking my brain and can't think of a single one. It's just so horrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Found a link to the original Associated Press story:

    DA: Rape may be alleged in Calif. girl's slaying
    By MARCUS WOHLSEN and GARANCE BURKE 15 minutes ago

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...ikD3gD97HPUHG0
    San Joaquin County Deputy District Attorney Robert Himmelblau said Monday that a homicide charge against Huckaby could include the special circumstances of rape with a foreign object, lewd and lacivious conduct with a child and murder in the course of a kidnapping.
    a snip from your link

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    Quote Originally Posted by sariebell View Post
    Okay, some of you have way better memories than me. And more of a true-crime history foundation...

    How many women have been arrested for sex crimes against a minor female + murder without a male accomplice? I can't remember hearing of it at all. Intriguing and disturbing...
    There's one question I can't get out of my mind...how does a woman who stands 5'3" and weighs 125 pounds manage to put a large suitcase with a 45 lb. body into the center of a large pond all by herself?

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    ot-casey anthony to be charged with death penalty... per HLN

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    I've been wracking my brain and can't think of a single one. It's just so horrifying.
    I will see what I can track down, but while uncommon...it has happened.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFromLB View Post
    There's one question I can't get out of my mind...how does a woman who stands 5'3" and weighs 125 pounds manage to put a large suitcase with a 45 lb. body into the center of a large pond all by herself?
    I am that size and I could do it... I do chest presses with that much weight at the gym.... fwiw

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    Sheer determination... resulting in internal bleeding?


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Brannagh View Post
    Wow, without a male... that's a good question...

    I think there have been women who have enjoyed it and did it willingly, but with a male partner... for instance the moor murders in the UK and Karla Homolka in Canada.
    If you go to the Pastor Lawless thread there is a link to a ring of SOs that were caught in Winatchee Washington. A great number of the perps were women. I'll go find the link and put it here.

    I don't want this to be true. Does LE tell the family about this stuff so it doesn't hit them so hard when the media comes out with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by octobermoon View Post
    ot-casey anthony to be charged with death penalty... per HLN


    O/T WOOOOHOOOOOO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFromLB View Post
    There's one question I can't get out of my mind...how does a woman who stands 5'3" and weighs 125 pounds manage to put a large suitcase with a 45 lb. body into the center of a large pond all by herself?
    Now, I haven't seen a pic of the pond, but if she was able to get it even a few feet inside the pond, could it have slid down a sloped side and ended up in the middle (assuming the pond isn't dug straight down like a swimming pool)?

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    This new horror makes it all the more perplexing to me that MH ran around speaking to the media and telling them everything except her own involvement!!! Why would she commit this crime, and then why would she essentially keep on talking about it to the MEDIA of all groups!!! Now, I am back to square one with not being able to grasp any of this!

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    Off Topic: Casey Anthony will face the DP!!! (Just announced on HLN)

    ETA: I see Octobermoon beat me to it! Thanks! It bears repeating tho!!

    WOOHOO!!!

    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.

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