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    CA- Desert Hot Springs - WhtFem 551UFCA, 40-55, Prescription Glasses, Feb'97

    what do you guys think? here is the info on this UID:

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/551ufca.html

    Unidentified White Female

    The victim was discovered on February 10, 1997 in Desert Hot Springs, Riverside County, California
    Vital Statistics
    Estimated age: 40-55 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 145 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown, shoulder length hair with gray mixed in; hazel eyes. She had no scars or tattoos.
    Dentals: Available. She had extensive dental work including crowns and root canal work.
    Clothing: A light colored striped shirt, blue denims pants, brown shoes and a tan/yellowish windbreaker jacket. She was wearing large frame prescription bi-focal eyeglasses. She was wearing a wedding ring.
    Fingerprints: Available

    Case History
    The victim was located in the hills behind the Desert Crossing shopping center in Desert Hot Springs, CA.
    She was fully dressed with superficial contusions to her legs and head. She may have been disoriented. She was found with her personal property including medication and money. All identification was intentionally missing or had been obliterated. Extensive local searches have all had negative results.

    I have a possible match with Anne Ferguson of Tennessee (with matches to UID highlighted). do you think she could have wandered as far as CA?

    Anne Ferguson
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1749dftn.html

    Anne Blanche Ferguson (Frady)
    Missing since January 14, 1996 from Bledsoe County, Tennessee
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: July 25, 1938
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 58 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"- 5'9"; 130 - 140 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Green/hazel eyes; brown/grey hair. She wears glasses. Medical conditions: She suffers from an unspecified illness, and did not bring her medications with her.

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    The two last known sightings of Ferguson was at JJ's Market on January 14, 1996, In Bledsoe County, TN. She was last seen walking on Highway 127 in Bledsoe County towards Sequatchie County TN.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Bledsoe County Police Department
    423-447-2197

    if someone else wouldn't mind posting the images from each page side-by-side- I can't seem to figure out how to post images.
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    Some people do crossword puzzles or Soduko in their spare time...I look at skeletal reconstructions and work on UID puzzles. I swear I'm not this morbid in person!

    Help Fred Murray find his daughter and bring her home. He should not be walking those woods alone!
    What Happened to Maura Murray? http://www.mauramurraymissing.com

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    Here's the side by side pic

    FC; It's a possibility that she got that far, if she was picked up by a trucker or someone going that way! Consider all possibilities, that's my motto....
    The missing ladys photo is not very good quality, but I searched and couldn't find a better one. I cleaned it up as much as I could....
    Ms. Ferguson-Frady and Jane here:
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    thanks for creating the side-by-side.

    what does everyone else think? is it enough to submit?
    Some people do crossword puzzles or Soduko in their spare time...I look at skeletal reconstructions and work on UID puzzles. I swear I'm not this morbid in person!

    Help Fred Murray find his daughter and bring her home. He should not be walking those woods alone!
    What Happened to Maura Murray? http://www.mauramurraymissing.com

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    I think you should submit it. Looks like you have enough to go on... Good Luck!!

    Chaddylex

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    Despite the similarities, I don't think Anne Blanche Ferguson/Frady is this Jane Doe.

    I found a myspace devoted to Anne and it says she has scars (appendectomy & hysterectomy) and Jane Doe has no scars.

    Here's the myspace page;
    http://www.myspace.com/missing_mother
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    Thanks Jessunlil for the link! I visited there and copied the photo of Mrs. Ferguson-Frady, much better quality...
    FC; Did you submit this? They're very close, sometimes LE doesn't list all the scars (not sure why, but it may keep folks from submitting anyone and evryone with those same scars) as we have found with 1987 TN Jane. If you haven't submitted, you might call and ask if Jane did have any scars like Mrs. Ferguson-Frady!!!
    Here's the side by side again only in black and white:
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    Jane Doe Namus link and exclusions. Anne Ferguson is not among them.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/7026

    Dorothy Chiappuzzo 1938 California
    Cynthia Coover 1956 California
    Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
    Carmen Hetrick 1956 Colorado
    Sandra Jacobson 1959 North Dakota
    Gloria King 1954 New Mexico
    Wendy Ratte 1953 California
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia

    DNA sample for the Doe is not available but her dentals are quite distinctive.
    I didn't find a Namus page for Anne Ferguson.

    Jane Doe was wearing a wedding ring. Was AF married?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Jane Doe was wearing a wedding ring. Was AF married?
    I assume so. Her DN page has what appears to be a maiden name of Frady listed.

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    Wondering If This Was Ever Reported? Anne Blanche Ferguson Frady Is My Mother In Law!
    I Have Several Sites Up About Her!
    Myspace - http://www.myspace.com/missing_mother
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MissingMoth...eFergusonFrady
    Website - http://webpages.charter.net/d0mini0n/MissingMother.htm

    My Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/KWGGrafix

    If Anyone Has Any Info - Please Don't Hesitate To Contact Me!
    This Page Was Created For My Hubbs Missing Mother - Please Take A Second To Look Over The Page - Like It & Share It - Help Us Get The Word Out In Hope Someone Out There Knows Something - Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMother View Post
    Wondering If This Was Ever Reported? Anne Blanche Ferguson Frady Is My Mother In Law!
    I Have Several Sites Up About Her!
    Myspace - http://www.myspace.com/missing_mother
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MissingMoth...eFergusonFrady
    Website - http://webpages.charter.net/d0mini0n/MissingMother.htm

    My Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/KWGGrafix

    If Anyone Has Any Info - Please Don't Hesitate To Contact Me!
    Welcome to Websleuths!!!!! I hope your family can find the answers they need to find your mother in law.

    Do you think she could have went the whole way to CA?
    Do you know if your mother in law has dentals on file?

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    Exclamation Missing Mother Anne Blanche Ferguson Frady

    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    Welcome to Websleuths!!!!! I hope your family can find the answers they need to find your mother in law.

    Do you think she could have went the whole way to CA?
    Do you know if your mother in law has dentals on file?
    Thank You For Your Kind Words Chaddylex - At This Point The Family
    Is In Dire Need Of Answers/Leads Anything.

    If She Was Picked Up By Trucker Which Highly Travels The Route
    She Was Last Seen On - Anywhere Is Possible.

    As Far As Dentals - She Did Have Dentures.

    Do You Know If This Was Ever Reported By The Lead Post On
    This Thread?
    This Page Was Created For My Hubbs Missing Mother - Please Take A Second To Look Over The Page - Like It & Share It - Help Us Get The Word Out In Hope Someone Out There Knows Something - Thanks!

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    Exclamation Anne Blanche Ferguson Frady UPDATE!

    This Has Been Reported - We Have Spoke With Officials.
    We Are Awaiting A DNA Kit To Be Sent For Hubbs.
    Will Have To Send Back In & Wait For Results.
    Will Keep Everyone Posted!

    -Inhales-
    This Page Was Created For My Hubbs Missing Mother - Please Take A Second To Look Over The Page - Like It & Share It - Help Us Get The Word Out In Hope Someone Out There Knows Something - Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMother View Post
    This Has Been Reported - We Have Spoke With Officials.
    We Are Awaiting A DNA Kit To Be Sent For Hubbs.
    Will Have To Send Back In & Wait For Results.
    Will Keep Everyone Posted!

    -Inhales-
    Hoping you get the answers you need. I can't imagine how your family feels not knowing where she is.

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    Exclamation Blanche UPDATE

    * UPDATE * The DNA Kit Arrived From California - Hubbs Met With Detective & Submitted The DNA They Needed & Its Enroute Back To California For Testing & Comparison - Now We Wait.....
    This Page Was Created For My Hubbs Missing Mother - Please Take A Second To Look Over The Page - Like It & Share It - Help Us Get The Word Out In Hope Someone Out There Knows Something - Thanks!

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    MissingMother - I truly hope you find some answers.


    I found someone else that made me stop and go hmmm too.

    http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reid_rebecca.html

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    Stephanie Fladgard went missing October 18, 1996. There aren't many details about her disappearance, but she is the right age, weight, height and the hair and glasses match. The date is acceptable depending on why she went missing...which we don't know.



    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12267/58

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    I was looking to see if she already had a thread here and was just about to add one, so I am really glad that I checked again. I think part of my confusion was that the Riverside County Coroner and NamUs both list her as being found in Palm Desert, CA and the Doe Network says she was found in Desert Hot Springs, CA.

    http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coro.../1997-0827.asp

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/7026

    I checked at Target.com and there isn't a Target store in Desert Hot Springs but there is one in Palm Desert located at 72549 Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA, 92260-3306. Coincidentally, the Desert Crossing Shopping Center is also located at the intersection of Fred Waring Dr. and Highway 111, Palm Desert, CA 92260. http://www.shopdesertcrossing.com/
    The circumstances of the discovery of this lady's body (on NamUs) are interesting and I wanted to add them --

    This woman was found by a construction crew in hills behind the shopping center. She had some personal property with but no identification. She some greeting cards but the addressee and signature were torn out.

    She appeared to have been dead about one day and may have been living in that area for a few days. She had expensive dental work. and was wearing a wedding ring.
    NamUs also says that besides the cards, there were bus passes found with her body.

    Recently, I was looking at the people who had escaped or walked away from the Nevada Department of Corrections (with a different unidentified person in mind) and noticed Margaret A. Barrett (this is what prompted me to see if this UID had a thread) --

    http://www.doc.nv.gov/?q=node/181

    There are a lot of things that are questionable about this. I tried to find about more information about Ms. Barrett and her 1986 escape/walk away and was unable to (such as what was she in prison for, more about her vital statistics, and was she the sort of person who would have dental work that included as much gold as the UID). Would her fingerprints have been in CODIS from that far back? The fingerprints shown on the Riverside website look sort of damaged (IMO).

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    Article that mentions this UID, among others:

    http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/...dies/24717147/

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    that article made me cry a little. bless that woman who buries abandoned babies.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjohnston0827 View Post
    Article that mentions this UID, among others:

    http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/...dies/24717147/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvaldez1975 View Post
    that article made me cry a little. bless that woman who buries abandoned babies.
    Oh I know! Did you go to the Garden of Angels website and read Jacob's story?? Definitely brought tears to my eyes!

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    no. my baby is named jacob

    Quote Originally Posted by jjohnston0827 View Post
    Oh I know! Did you go to the Garden of Angels website and read Jacob's story?? Definitely brought tears to my eyes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Jane Doe Namus link and exclusions. Anne Ferguson is not among them.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/7026

    Dorothy Chiappuzzo 1938 California
    Cynthia Coover 1956 California
    Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
    Carmen Hetrick 1956 Colorado
    Sandra Jacobson 1959 North Dakota
    Gloria King 1954 New Mexico
    Wendy Ratte 1953 California
    Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia

    DNA sample for the Doe is not available but her dentals are quite distinctive.
    I didn't find a Namus page for Anne Ferguson.

    Jane Doe was wearing a wedding ring. Was AF married?
    Billie Willard has been added to the ruleouts list. https://identifyus.org/cases/7026
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohnston0827 View Post
    Article that mentions this UID, among others:

    http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/...dies/24717147/
    Just to grab a couple of details from that story in case they ring a bell along the way....

    She was white, likely in her 50s or 60s, with hazel eyes and shoulder-length, brown-gray hair. She wore blue jeans, a yellow windbreaker and giant rounded bifocals that made her look like an owl. There was a wedding ring on her finger, cash in her pocket and a clear amber pendant around her neck. Her face was painted with pricey Clinique makeup.
    Soon, authorities had swarmed the scene. They found the woman's day camp, a small collection of food and belongings, up the hillside from her body. They combed the camp for answers, but uncovered only riddles.

    For example, they found a photograph of a beach, but it looked as if someone had been cut out of the picture, erasing a clue. They found a Hallmark birthday card, but the sender's name had been torn off. And they found an unfinished love letter, written in English and Scottish Gaelic, addressed to no one.

    "Dear love of my heart ..." the letter began, before fading into nothing. "A ghraidh mo chridhe." ("O love of my heart.")
    Interesting that she was living a transient lifestyle but had the money for (and took the time to apply) Clinique makeup.

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    I'm guessing there were no further updates on Margaret Barrett or Anne Frady, then? Those two seem to be big possibilities. Neither of them are added to ruleouts.
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    People we've suggested who aren't on the ruleouts list:

    Anne Ferguson (Frady) http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1749dftn.html
    Rebecca Reid http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reid_rebecca.html (IMO unlikely because she was apparently kidnapped)
    Margaret Barrett (link upthread is no good)

    I don't know whether any of them was ever submitted. According to the daughter-in-law, the son submitted DNA, but according to Namus our Jane Doe doesn't have DNA.
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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