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    Help! I am wondering what this means, if anything , for the case that in Reverand Grund's police sworn interview he relays that back in 2006 KC finally found a new babysitter (he and his family had been caring for the baby), she told him very specifically that her name was Zenaida Gonzalez, and even the story about having met her through Jeff H., yada, yada, yada. In 2006! Will this affect anything, except the civil trial?
    Are Z's lawyers going to file suit against Cindy now too, just to make sure they can indeed attach a lien to any profits she makes off the sale of this story, and since she is the one who "published the defamation" knowing it to be a lie,now that she has admitted she knew KC was lying?

    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...chard-0905.pdf

    The following information was found on pages 7 & 8.


    “Yeah (affirmative), I’ve got that worked out,” “Oh, yeah (affirmative), I found this lady uh, Zenaida Gonzalez and she, she watches my
    friend Jeffrey Hopkins son Zachery. And Zachery and Caylee play together and they, they love to be together. So this’ll work out great.” I’m thinking, “Wow that’s a whole lot more information than I really needed.” And by this point I picked up that Casey likes to tell stories. Uhm, we started to all pick up that Casey had a little problem with exaggeration.
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    Update: I found on NG show, where Rev. Grund relays this same incident, but this time remembers it as KC having called the nanny Zanny: "Finally, one day when Casey came home from work to wait for Jesse and hang out with us, I kind of greeted her at the door with, What are we going to do about this baby-sitter thing? And she says, I found one. I have a nanny. Her name is Zanny, and I got her from Jeffrey Hopkins, who has a son named..."
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    I think it will be the defense (KC's) lawyer in the defamation suit that calls him to the stand if and when this ever goes to trial. How long she has had these imaginary friends wont matter one bit stacked up against all the forensic evidence in the murder trial. I think the toxicology reports are back now, maybe there is proof of perpetual chemicals having been given to the baby that showed up in her hair (as Dr. Baden said by accident on air one night), there are specific plant remnants in KC's car from the woods, the soil on her shoes matches the woods, the duct tape matches, the Pooh blanket SKU numbers match (it is part of a set) her nursery linen, she and Tony are on tape in Blockbuster the very day she is thought to have killed the baby renting a video (about a child being kidnapped by a nanny by the way), her cell pings show exactly where she was at every minute of the day, she texted her friend Amy setting up an excuse for why her vehicle smells of decomposition, she lied and lied and led police on wild goose chases, her father, mother and brother all said to police the car smelled of death, etc., etc., all it will show in the criminal case is what Judge Strickland already noticed, "The truth and Miss Anthony are strangers".

    Does anyone know if Reverand Grund and his wife are on the witness list for either party? Do you know when LP is being deposed? I am looking forward to his colorful testimony.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The World According View Post

    Does anyone know if Reverand Grund and his wife are on the witness list for either party? Do you know when LP is being deposed? I am looking forward to his colorful testimony.

    Richard is on the list, but I did not see his wife's name. Here is the link: http://www.wesh.com/news/18565575/detail.html . I did not see LP's name on the list either.


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    WHAT? (now i need to look at the interview)


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    Quote Originally Posted by The World According View Post
    Help! I am wondering what this means, if anything , for the case that in Reverand Grund's police sworn interview he relays that back in 2006 KC finally found a new babysitter (he and his family had been caring for the baby), she told him very specifically that her name was Zenaida Gonzalez, and even the story about having met her through Jeff Hopkins, yada, yada, yada. In 2006! Will this affect anything, except the civil trial?
    I doubt it ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by The World According View Post
    Help! I am wondering what this means, if anything , for the case that in Reverand Grund's police sworn interview he relays that back in 2006 KC finally found a new babysitter (he and his family had been caring for the baby), she told him very specifically that her name was Zenaida Gonzalez, and even the story about having met her through Jeff Hopkins, yada, yada, yada. In 2006! Will this affect anything, except the civil trial?
    I dunno? IIRC KC coined the name 'Zanny' with RG. Do you have a link/ref to the doc?

    If this was true then KC's parents would have the same story and be using it before and at the Depo.

    Sounds hinky to me if KC used ZG to RG but not her parents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberborg View Post
    I dunno? IIRC KC coined the name 'Zanny' with RG. Do you have a link/ref to the doc?

    If this was true then KC's parents would have the same story and be using it before and at the Depo.

    Sounds hinky to me if KC used ZG to RG but not her parents?
    I believe this is the interview you are looking for: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...chard-0905.pdf. The following information was found on pages 7 & 8.


    “Yeah (affirmative), I’ve got that worked out,” “Oh, yeah (affirmative), I found this lady uh, Zenaida Gonzalez and she, she watches my
    friend Jeffrey H's son Z. And Z and Caylee play together and they, they love to be together. So this’ll work out great.” I’m thinking, “Wow that’s a whole lot more information than I really needed.” And by this point I picked up that Casey likes to tell stories. Uhm, we started to all pick up that Casey had a little problem with exaggeration.
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    I do think it is just a lie, but it is interesting that she had this entire lie for so long. I wouldn't even let someone take my dogs overnight, let alone my grandchild, and since they knew KC to be such a liar and so very irresponsible, there is no way as controlling as Cindy is, they wouldn't have insisted on meeting any caretaker. None of it makes any sense to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The World According View Post
    I do think it is just a lie, but it is interesting that she had this entire lie for so long. I wouldn't even let someone take my dogs overnight, let alone my grandchild, and since they knew KC to be such a liar and so very irresponsible, there is no way as controlling as Cindy is, they wouldn't have insisted on meeting any caretaker. None of it makes any sense to me.
    Exactly...
    By the time she dialed 911 she already had a story they all agreed on.
    I am not overprotective and I know my kids Nanny's and they do not live with me. NO WAY she did not know the nanny.
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    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World According View Post
    I do think it is just a lie, but it is interesting that she had this entire lie for so long. I wouldn't even let someone take my dogs overnight, let alone my grandchild, and since they knew KC to be such a liar and so very irresponsible, there is no way as controlling as Cindy is, they wouldn't have insisted on meeting any caretaker. None of it makes any sense to me.
    Me either. I know RG's family was probably more of a family at that time and KC was hiding out there but, I am surprised that the A's only talk of Zanny before and not ZG.
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    All I can say is, if the nanny story is true, then Baez should have NO problem coming up with Jeffrey Hopkins and his son Zachery and having at least Jeffrey testifying at trial.

    Jurors are not stupid people and if Baez wants to put this out there, he'd better damn well back it up and not expect jurors to take him at his word. Promising something you can't fulfill would be the biggest mistake the defense team could make.


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    This is probably a stupid question, but - if Casey was using the "Zenaida Gonzalez" babysitter name back in 2006, then she had the idea for that particular name way before ZG went to check out an apartment at Sawgrass. Right? What would the chances be that she already made up this name and then lo and behold, someone with that name checks out an apartment at Sawgrass?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberborg View Post
    I dunno? IIRC KC coined the name 'Zanny' with RG. Do you have a link/ref to the doc?

    If this was true then KC's parents would have the same story and be using it before and at the Depo.

    Sounds hinky to me if KC used ZG to RG but not her parents?


    How so?


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    Quote Originally Posted by the world according View Post
    help! I am wondering what this means, if anything , for the case that in reverand grund's police sworn interview he relays that back in 2006 kc finally found a new babysitter (he and his family had been caring for the baby), she told him very specifically that her name was zenaida gonzalez, and even the story about having met her through jeff h., yada, yada, yada. In 2006! Will this affect anything, except the civil trial?
    Link please!


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