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View Poll Results: Why did Lee flip-flop?

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  • Because family loyalty set in, overshadowing all else.

    166 48.40%
  • Because he sincerely believes Casey now.

    1 0.29%
  • Because he needs to cover his own tracks for some reason.

    122 35.57%
  • Other

    54 15.74%

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    Why did Lee flip-flop?

    Back in July/August, Lee tells Annie Downing not to lie for Casey, she's done bad things. During deposition Lee takes a completely different tone, saying he believes everything his sister says and making excuses for her. Why the flip-flop?

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    I think Cindy got wind of (read on line, heard about) what he had been saying to LE and others and told him "You are either with us or against us, and the family position will be that we believe your sister in all that she says. Period. "

    End of being truthful,candid, or helpful to LE for Lee.

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    I voted other because I'm not convinced LA ever flip-flopped. While he did say KC lied and did bad things, that was the same thing the rest of the family said in the beginning. I don't know that he ever truly believed anything other than what she told him. He was the one who as soon as he found out Caylee had been "taken" by the nanny started his own investigation into finding her. I've always gotten a weird vibe from him and all that "CMA" stuff at the memorial just exacerbated that feeling. It's almost like he idolizes KC and in spite of everything that hasn't changed.
    This case makes my brain go all wonky!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by circe257 View Post
    I voted other because I'm not convinced LA ever flip-flopped. While he did say KC lied and did bad things, that was the same thing the rest of the family said in the beginning. I don't know that he ever truly believed anything other than what she told him. He was the one who as soon as he found out Caylee had been "taken" by the nanny started his own investigation into finding her. I've always gotten a weird vibe from him and all that "CMA" stuff at the memorial just exacerbated that feeling. It's almost like he idolizes KC and in spite of everything that hasn't changed.
    Actually Lee said to Annie "don't lie for her". So in that vein he did flip-flop, because he's willing to lie for her now..

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    Has he lied for her? Or is he convinced there has to be some other answer other than his sister killed his niece? I think he dove into the search for the truth, believing it would help find Caylee - and exhonerate his sister. When things got murky, he probably couldn't wrap his mind around the facts rising to the surface. He loves his sister, so is going with "his" gut -- that someone he loves is not capable of such a thing. I voted other - because I think the "whys" of the family are too complicated for someone on the outside to fathom.

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    Because Mommy told him to. Same as for George. I truly believe that if Cindy was not Commander in Chief, that George would have spilled the whole story as he knows it to be way before now.

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    perhaps he got afraid of the "force" and his lite saber was in the shop?????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by circe257 View Post
    I voted other because I'm not convinced LA ever flip-flopped. While he did say KC lied and did bad things, that was the same thing the rest of the family said in the beginning. I don't know that he ever truly believed anything other than what she told him. He was the one who as soon as he found out Caylee had been "taken" by the nanny started his own investigation into finding her. I've always gotten a weird vibe from him and all that "CMA" stuff at the memorial just exacerbated that feeling. It's almost like he idolizes KC and in spite of everything that hasn't changed.
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    He plainly made statements that she was a liar in the beginning and now he "believes" whatever his sister tells him. That appears to me to be an absolute "flip-flop".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    I think Cindy got wind of (read on line, heard about) what he had been saying to LE and others and told him "You are either with us or against us, and the family position will be that we believe your sister in all that she says. Period. "

    End of being truthful,candid, or helpful to LE for Lee.
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    I agree with you AlwaysShocked, I think that the time period that we did not see Lee, that Cindy had given him a "timeout" to either get with the program or be shunned from the family. She probably threatened to disown him for his indiscretions. He finally decided to join the program and now he is fully programmed to do his part.

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    i think the anthony's looked back at their talks with LE and realized they need to stop giving conflicting stories, they needed to support KC instead of 'throwing her under the bus'
    "He who dislikes the cat, was in his former life a rat"


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    Quote Originally Posted by natsound View Post
    Back in July/August, Lee tells Annie Downing not to lie for Casey, she's done bad things. During deposition Lee takes a completely different tone, saying he believes everything his sister says and making excuses for her. Why the flip-flop?
    I think that I am gittin the hang of the A's speech thang. In a backwards sort of way. Did LA say, "I beleive e-thang my sister says" or did he say, "I beleive e-thang my sister tells me"? There is a difference. Seems like he said the latter.
    GA: "...I mean Iím not a stupid guy...Ē
    Det. Hussey: ďI think youíre, I think youíre a guy that knows a lot about a lot of things, George.Ē
    (LE interview 8-4-08)


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    Lee's comment to Annie about not lying for Casey wasn't a flipflop. The more truth Annie tells, the easier it is for the Anthony's to implicate her. Because, I believe Annie knows a snotload of stuff she has not revealed for fear of accessory charges being lobbed at her. Do I think she overtly helped Casey kill Caylee? No way. But do I think that Annie is the source for the Zanny business, the drugs, the whathaveyous? Yes. Annie's lies are to protect Annie, and in protecting Annie, will offer some protectioin for Casey. If she reveals those lies, she'll implicate herself and they can say "Annie did it!!"
    Last edited by Tom'sGirl; 04-18-2009 at 02:55 PM. Reason: no name calling please

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    I chose other. I donít think anything this family does will fit into any of our multiple choice answers, ever. In a typical family I would guess that Lee, reacting to his fatherís suicide attempt, thought heíd better not verbalize his thoughts about KCís involvement in her childís death. Or, possibly, when Lee made those statements about KC, he didnít think they would become public knowledge, and now with cameras glaring, he has to clam up or risk the wrath of a volatile George and Cindy. But, since this is no typical family, my guess is that his responses were his way of giving the ZG attorney the finger.

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    I voted other.

    On July 15-16 and during the first few weeks, I think Lee and the Anthony's had some hope for Caylee. I believe all of Casey's family would have thrown Casey under the bus to get Caylee back.

    But that changed.


    One thing I think LP was right about was that there was a difference in the family mood after the preliminary forensics came back. After hope for Caylee was lost, the Anthony family circled the wagons to protect the only "girl" Cindy has left.

    I think some of George's and Lee's flip-flops are to protect Casey because they love her. But, I also think they are also protecting Cindy from further losing it (because they love Cindy). I think they are doing what they are doing to protect the fragile part of Cindy they see as wounded and going down.

    Not saying Cindy is or isn't manipulating. Just saying I see males protecting their women.

    JMO

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    I think it has more to do with the fact that this is for a civil deposition - I don't think Lee cares at all about ZFG or Morgan, or what happens to either of them.

    I've yet to see LA say anything contradictory to LE, and he seemed pretty honest and open with them. I just think here he feels guilty enough that he might end up convicting his sister, and doesn't want to do any more than he "has" to.

    Also any judgment in the ZFG case is going to come out of GA/CA's pocket. I'm sure Lee doesn't want to openly help a fame-seeker rob his parents. (No I'm not sympathetic to ZFG, if she kept her face out of the media she wouldn't have had these problems)

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