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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    does anyone have any idea how far the security camera is from Tori's school? Tuba just got me to thinking on her last post...
    I wonder why the time stamp on the video is unreliable so that only an approximation was ever given.

    At on-line newspapers, descriptions indicate that the sidewalk video is a very short walk from Victoria's school.
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    Tuba,
    I just posted that same question on the other thread and will have to go back to repost the exact times... but there is only a seven minute gap between when Tori left that school and was spotted on the camera..


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    Here it is... from RoseKiller:

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    OPP list Tori as released from school at 3:25 and seen on video at 3:32.
    Hope this helps. Per their website.


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    In around seven minutes... from walking out of school this child ends up walking with puffy white coat chic down the street in the direction of her own home! This had to have been planned. Given the fact that her brother walked the disabled child home I would be interviewing him to see if someone had asked him to do it that day.

    Also, Tuba, when you said they "hurried" and that the abduction was easy.. could puffy white chic have told Tori that her mom was sick or in an accident and they had to hurry or something to that effect? Do you see any deception in the event?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    does anyone have any idea how far the security camera is from Tori's school? Tuba just got me to thinking on her last post...

    From the Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...toria+stafford

    "The picture of Tori with the mystery woman was retrieved from footage taken by a camera at College Avenue Secondary School, which shares a huge green space with Oliver Stephens Public School where Tori is in Grade 3 with 20 other youngsters. The photograph was taken about 200 yards from an intersection almost equidistant from Tori's former home on Fyfe Street and the new small blue-sided home on Frances. Neither house is more than a few minutes walk away, even at a child's pace."
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    In around seven minutes... from walking out of school this child ends up walking with puffy white coat chic down the street in the direction of her own home! This had to have been planned. Given the fact that her brother walked the disabled child home I would be interviewing him to see if someone had asked him to do it that day.

    Also, Tuba, when you said they "hurried" and that the abduction was easy.. could puffy white chic have told Tori that her mom was sick or in an accident and they had to hurry or something to that effect? Do you see any deception in the event?
    I am going to go out on a limb here and answer this question, if I am wrong someone say so, but I have to say yes. Neptune is the planet of deception and its in the the 7th house, which tells me something secret and mysterious was going on. The 7th house is the house of cooperation and opposition, also rising conflicts, with Neptune being placed here I would have to say yes.


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    The fact that the child's house was so very close to the walking pair means that it was a very rash and brazen move in broad daylight, don't you think? Globe & Mail is just one of the papers that gives a slightly later moment, 3:40. But all of these times have usefulness because she did have to be put into the car or building and there was at least one decision involved, 0° Virgo = getting underway and chosing a route, for eg. Moon in Libra very recent to the kidnapping opposed Venus. The woman took notice of Victoria. The woman is also // the Sun, a north south contra parallel where they made a swift agreement, perhaps by phone or text message based on Moon's description of Victoria.

    The Moon rules activity in an event chart and so, creates happenings and connectons with many people in her fast motion through the skies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    does anyone have any idea how far the security camera is from Tori's school? Tuba just got me to thinking on her last post...
    The link below is a news article in which it states where exactly on the street she was last seen from the surveillance camera.

    http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...aspx?e=1518588

    The video, taken by a College Avenue Secondary School video camera, shows Stafford walking northbound along Fyfe Avenue near the intersection with Walter Street at 3:32 pm Wednesday, around the same time the Grade 3pupil left Oliver Stephens Public School.

    Oliver Stephen Public School is located: 164 Fyfe Avenue, Woodstock Ontario N4S 3S6
    College Avenue Secondary School is located: 700 College Avenue, Woodstock Ontario
    N4S 2C8

    Estimated Time: 0.60 minutes Estimated Distance: 0.13 miles (from www.mapquest.com)

    The schools are side by side. The secondary school’s address is on College, but as reported the video was taken from College Avenue Secondary School near the intersection of Fyfe and Walter Street. This would make it closer to Tori’s school and be seconds to walk to.


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    I would like to hear more from the father's relatives regarding "There is something familiar about that woman's walk!"
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    And would like to know how many times Stafford has been married. Here is a quote from newspaper article:
    McDonald, Goris and his mother Darlene Goris, Tori's father Rodney Stafford and another of Stafford's ex-wives were among the people who took lie detector tests over the Easter weekend. "We were happy to do it," said McDonald. "It means they can rule us out and look where they should."

    Article Link: http://www.thespec.com/article/549372


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    Here is a map visual of where things are in Woodstock (deciphered with the greatest of help from Kaas):
    Trillium Co-op: Where Tori used to live
    Frances Street: New area where Tori just moved into a few weeks ago
    CAAS: Secondary school where the camera was mounted
    Keats Road: Police cars were positioned off Springbank where Keats Road ends today
    Care Home: The position the camera was angled from the CASS structure
    Toril's School: School Tori attended
    Camera/Video: Intersection of Fyfe and Walter aimed towards the Care Home

    Here is the visual:
    http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/t...gbankAveV3.jpg
    Last edited by elepher50; 04-19-2009 at 10:09 PM. Reason: replaced with corrected map from Kaas input


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    Quote Originally Posted by elepher50 View Post
    And would like to know how many times Stafford has been married. Here is a quote from newspaper article:
    McDonald, Goris and his mother Darlene Goris, Tori's father Rodney Stafford and another of Stafford's ex-wives were among the people who took lie detector tests over the Easter weekend. "We were happy to do it," said McDonald. "It means they can rule us out and look where they should."

    Article Link: http://www.thespec.com/article/549372
    I read that but they have NOT ruled anyone out, even after the poly's


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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    I read that but they have NOT ruled anyone out, even after the poly's
    Hi Butterfly1978, Righty-o, nobody has been ruled out. Wish they would publish a composite sketch of the person in the video - I read somewhere that they were doing one - it may help identify the Puffy Jacket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
    I would like to hear more from the father's relatives regarding "There is something familiar about that woman's walk!"
    In the below article, they do not say which relative said it.

    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_33711.aspx


    CityNews reporter Tara Weber watched the cleaned-up video with a few of Victoria’s relatives. One of them suggested they may now recognize the unknown person.
    “Well, we only know one woman who walks that way,” the relative reportedly commented.


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    Well....I hope they have shared their observations....


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