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    Friend of family saw Caylee June 12th...maybe?

    Please share any information you have about this statement and any sources you can cite will be greatly appreciated.

    Here's what I know...

    This was reported and posted on very early on - since July 17th or 18th if I'm not mistaken - which means everyone thought Caylee had been missing since June 9th so a sighting on the 12th by someone who knew her was very important at that time - until the June 15th video surfaced anyway.

    Most posts I've seen are similar in that they say that GA was the one who said this although one report did say it was a friend of CA's as opposed to simply a family friend as all others seem to say.

    Some reports and posts go on to say that she was wearing a pink & blue outfit and white rimmed sunglasses. This is part of what I'm trying to verify. I now think this may have been a misunderstanding of a news report that wasn't very well written and most every post since then has included it. It had a paragraph on the family friend seeing Caylee on June 12th at a shopping mall near the Orange Seminole county line and then a separate sentence which says that Caylee was last seen wearing a blue and pink outfit and white rimmed sunglasses. I think that may have been misunderstood to be what she was seen wearing that day when the reporter might have actually been referring to GA's description of what he last saw her wearing - supposedly on June 16th. I've even said that in a post or two myself but now am trying to find out what the friend(s) of the family did actually say.

    The pings do not show KC near the Orange/Seminole county line on the 12th but I think they do on the 9th - near Tom's Auto in Fern's Park.

    Here's why I want more information. I've wondered for some time if GA actually saw Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th. I do not think he is lying about it but may be mistaken. I think it is possible that the description he gave of her was from when he saw her & KC leaving on some earlier date.

    To be honest, I had thought that date was June 12th because I was under the impression that the family friend who spotted Caylee that day had described her wearing the same thing GA saw her leaving in and I thought it unlikely that she would be wearing the same thing 4 days later. However, when someone on WS pointed out to me that the pings didn't support a 6/12 sighting near the Seminole line, I got curious and started looking into this further. I think it is possible that GA saw Caylee in that outfit on the 9th which was also a Monday and he would have had a similar schedule as on the 16th and the same day the pings would support KC being near the Seminole line and will be even more convinced of this if the friend(s) did actually say she was wearing a pink & blue outfit & white rimmed sunglasses.

    So I am looking for any information about what the family friend said, what GA said the family friend said, and what GA might have said about the last time he saw her in any statements or interviews during those first several days before the revelation of the Mt Dora trip on 6/15 came to light - a link to a report or transcript would be very helpful and a link to an audio or video of GA talking about the friend of the family and the 12th of June would just about make my day!

    I've been re-reading and re-viewing and re-listening for days and all I've done is drive myself nuts so I though I'd ask you all for your help. I'll give 10 points to the best answer - no, wait, that's another website - I'll just be forever grateful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aafromaa View Post
    Please share any information you have about this statement and any sources you can cite will be greatly appreciated.

    Here's what I know...

    This was reported and posted on very early on - since July 17th or 18th if I'm not mistaken - which means everyone thought Caylee had been missing since June 9th so a sighting on the 12th by someone who knew her was very important at that time - until the June 15th video surfaced anyway.

    Most posts I've seen are similar in that they say that GA was the one who said this although one report did say it was a friend of CA's as opposed to simply a family friend as all others seem to say.

    Some reports and posts go on to say that she was wearing a pink & blue outfit and white rimmed sunglasses. This is part of what I'm trying to verify. I now think this may have been a misunderstanding of a news report that wasn't very well written and most every post since then has included it. It had a paragraph on the family friend seeing Caylee on June 12th at a shopping mall near the Orange Seminole county line and then a separate sentence which says that Caylee was last seen wearing a blue and pink outfit and white rimmed sunglasses. I think that may have been misunderstood to be what she was seen wearing that day when the reporter might have actually been referring to GA's description of what he last saw her wearing - supposedly on June 16th. I've even said that in a post or two myself but now am trying to find out what the friend(s) of the family did actually say.

    The pings do not show KC near the Orange/Seminole county line on the 12th but I think they do on the 9th - near Tom's Auto in Fern's Park.

    Here's why I want more information. I've wondered for some time if GA actually saw Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th. I do not think he is lying about it but may be mistaken. I think it is possible that the description he gave of her was from when he saw her & KC leaving on some earlier date.

    To be honest, I had thought that date was June 12th because I was under the impression that the family friend who spotted Caylee that day had described her wearing the same thing GA saw her leaving in and I thought it unlikely that she would be wearing the same thing 4 days later. However, when someone on WS pointed out to me that the pings didn't support a 6/12 sighting near the Seminole line, I got curious and started looking into this further. I think it is possible that GA saw Caylee in that outfit on the 9th which was also a Monday and he would have had a similar schedule as on the 16th and the same day the pings would support KC being near the Seminole line and will be even more convinced of this if the friend(s) did actually say she was wearing a pink & blue outfit & white rimmed sunglasses.

    So I am looking for any information about what the family friend said, what GA said the family friend said, and what GA might have said about the last time he saw her in any statements or interviews during those first several days before the revelation of the Mt Dora trip on 6/15 came to light - a link to a report or transcript would be very helpful and a link to an audio or video of GA talking about the friend of the family and the 12th of June would just about make my day!

    I've been re-reading and re-viewing and re-listening for days and all I've done is drive myself nuts so I though I'd ask you all for your help. I'll give 10 points to the best answer - no, wait, that's another website - I'll just be forever grateful!
    I thought there was a description of what she was wearing on the website...or posters that went out (?)

    ETA: also the initial reports. Why do I remember a denim skirt? Going to check. *** Nope denim shorts...http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...hony-on-71608/

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    I totally agree with you on the fact that I don't think George saw her on the 16th. I think he is not lying, just mistaken.

    It makes sense to me that the deed was done after the fight on the 15th in a fit of rage, so to speak.

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    So far these two people are the only ones I have come up with. Still looking.

    Kristina C. Claimed to be Casey Anthony's best friend, and one of the first people Casey talked to from jail after her first arrest in the case. Told investigators Casey and Caylee had been to her house on either June 12, 13 or 14, and they had all gone on a walk together.

    Clint H. Former business partner and roommate of Anthony Lazzaro. Told law enforcement that Casey was on her laptop “doing work” all the time when she was at the apartment, though most of what he saw was her on Facebook. Said Casey talked about the babysitter, but never by name, and no babysitter came to apartment to drop off or pick up Caylee. Said he last saw Caylee June 13, 2008. It was after he came forward with that statement that the Anthony family changed their story, and told about Caylee visiting her great-grandfather at the nursing home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    So far these two people are the only ones I have come up with. Still looking.

    Kristina C. Claimed to be Casey Anthony's best friend, and one of the first people Casey talked to from jail after her first arrest in the case. Told investigators Casey and Caylee had been to her house on either June 12, 13 or 14, and they had all gone on a walk together.

    Clint H. Former business partner and roommate of Anthony Lazzaro. Told law enforcement that Casey was on her laptop “doing work” all the time when she was at the apartment, though most of what he saw was her on Facebook. Said Casey talked about the babysitter, but never by name, and no babysitter came to apartment to drop off or pick up Caylee. Said he last saw Caylee June 13, 2008. It was after he came forward with that statement that the Anthony family changed their story, and told about Caylee visiting her great-grandfather at the nursing home.
    I thought it was a friend's mother that may have seen her at the Mall as well...just not sure they actually gave a description of what Caylee was wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I thought it was a friend's mother that may have seen her at the Mall as well...just not sure they actually gave a description of what Caylee was wearing.
    You're right about a description of clothing. I haven't yet been able to look up LE interviews of either of above to see if there is a description or if they've been included in a doc dump yet. I know Clint's girlfriend Maria K. also says she remembers seeing Caylee on June 12 or 13. If I find any other descriptions of that date or Clint or Kristina's descriptions I'll pass it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I thought it was a friend's mother that may have seen her at the Mall as well...just not sure they actually gave a description of what Caylee was wearing.
    This is all I found re statement of 'friend of family'

    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar..._timeline.html

    statement by GA near bottom of the page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    This is all I found re statement of 'friend of family'

    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar..._timeline.html

    statement by GA near bottom of the page.
    Yes, Noddy, thank you - this is one of the places that I read the statement about the description of the clothes she was supposedly wearing on the 12th when seen by the friend of the family.

    However, I can't find where GA actually made the statement about the friend of the family that everyone is referring to and I really want to know exactly what he said in regards to clothing she was wearing.

    By the way, I'm quite sure that he made the statement about the 12th on camera in those early days but I do not know if it was local news or NG or GVS or what and I do not know if he said anything about a description given to him by a family friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I thought there was a description of what she was wearing on the website...or posters that went out (?)

    ETA: also the initial reports. Why do I remember a denim skirt? Going to check. *** Nope denim shorts...http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...hony-on-71608/
    RR, Yes I think you're right about descriptions on posters and websites but I think that was taken from what GA said he saw her wearing on the 16th when he says he saw KC & Caylee leaving with backpacks shortly before KC said she dropped Caylee at Sawgrass with Zani.

    (As for the denim - I can easily see that being described as "blue" - but as for KC's statement and description, I think she was just trying to mimick GA's description because she was saying that she dropped her off between 2 and 5 after he said he saw her at 12:50 so KC needed to say she was wearing whatever GA said she was wearing.)

    A little OT on KC's statement - she says she got a call from Zani on 6/12. I can't decide if this means there is something significant about 6/12 itself or if there was something significant about the Thursday after Caylee was last seen which we now know would be Thursday the 19th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbucks View Post
    I totally agree with you on the fact that I don't think George saw her on the 16th. I think he is not lying, just mistaken.

    It makes sense to me that the deed was done after the fight on the 15th in a fit of rage, so to speak.
    That makes the best sense to me, too.

    But, IIRC, the ping maps had KC in the house, that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I thought it was a friend's mother that may have seen her at the Mall as well...just not sure they actually gave a description of what Caylee was wearing.
    RR, the only friend's mother I can recall was MH's mother AC who saw KC at a Target (I believe on 7/10) when she wrote one of AH's checks - and there was no Caylee.

    If you have more information about another friend's mother, please point me in the right direction. Thank You!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brini View Post
    That makes the best sense to me, too.

    But, IIRC, the ping maps had KC in the house, that night.
    Brini, yes the pings had her "near" the A's home but I'm not so sure that means "at" the A's home. I'm not sure if Starbucks is right or not but I've been wondering about the night of the 15th for a while now. I had dismissed it early on because GA was so certain he say Caylee on the 16th but the more I look at this the more I am convinced he was mistaken on the date.
    I know that you think you understand what you thought you heard me say, but, I'm not sure that you realize that what you heard me say is not really what I meant to convey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    So far these two people are the only ones I have come up with. Still looking.

    Kristina C. Claimed to be Casey Anthony's best friend, and one of the first people Casey talked to from jail after her first arrest in the case. Told investigators Casey and Caylee had been to her house on either June 12, 13 or 14, and they had all gone on a walk together.

    Clint H. Former business partner and roommate of Anthony Lazzaro. Told law enforcement that Casey was on her laptop “doing work” all the time when she was at the apartment, though most of what he saw was her on Facebook. Said Casey talked about the babysitter, but never by name, and no babysitter came to apartment to drop off or pick up Caylee. Said he last saw Caylee June 13, 2008. It was after he came forward with that statement that the Anthony family changed their story, and told about Caylee visiting her great-grandfather at the nursing home.
    Thanks.. I will go over Clint's interview with a fine tooth comb and put it in my timeline. I have Caylee with Casey for a time on Friday but we have a witness saying Caylee was with her Grandma that night in the Anon call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brini View Post
    That makes the best sense to me, too.

    But, IIRC, the ping maps had KC in the house, that night.
    She could have been home, or at Lee's house, or around the corner in a parking lot, we don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aafromaa View Post
    Brini, yes the pings had her "near" the A's home but I'm not so sure that means "at" the A's home. I'm not sure if Starbucks is right or not but I've been wondering about the night of the 15th for a while now. I had dismissed it early on because GA was so certain he say Caylee on the 16th but the more I look at this the more I am convinced he was mistaken on the date.
    I have the same problem. Ping maps notwithstanding. I can't imagine KC not stomping out, after such a nasty fight. I think she killed Caylee on the 15th.
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