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Thread: PA-Bonnie Sweeten, 38 and Julia Rakoczy,9, Upper Southampton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonia View Post
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725

    This video shows the suv really good from behind.
    Also in that article it states she was transferred to a school closer to home, wonder what school she is currently attending??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnts View Post
    Upon tracing the call, police determined the transmission was coming from a cell phone. They pinpointed the signal to a cell tower at the 200 block of 12th Street in Philadelphia. The woman's cell phone has since been turned off, a police source said.
    Officials are searching for two vehicles:

    • Suspect's Car
      Dark colored, 1990s model Cadillac
    • Sweeten's SUV
      Gold or silver colored, 2005 GMC Yukon Denali
      License place #: GYK-8998
    Sweeten said she heard her car speeding away (I assume while she was in the trunk). They are not getting a signal from the cell phone. That doesn't sound good.


    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-in-Trunk.html



    They are now saying (local channel 6 news) Sweeten made a total of (7) 911 calls. 2 of the calls were at length. No new updates, FBI is still working on the case and they have not been located as of 11:00 pm news. Last cell phone signal was approximately 55 minute drive time from where the abduction took place.
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    Someone help me here, please. I'm confused. If she made 7 911 calls, doesn't she know where she was driving when the fender bender happened? Is the cadillac in motion? Is someone driving it with her in the trunk?

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    Never mind. I put my fingers in gear before I caught up with the current news..........

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    I just found the current husbands name, and a few links, Idont know if I can list them because they are not news affiliates. The links say that when the woman called and said she was in the trunk she gave them her husbands name and how to get ahold of him, she did not however say anything about what the abductors where saying or said to her at all!
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    I'm thinking this mother set this up.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725

    Furthermore, police say they traced Sweeten's first 911 call to a cell phone tower near the location where the SUV was found, indicating it may have been there the entire time.

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    Ex-husband/father on Fox just said Julia was pulled out of school on May 1st to be put into another school. He wanted to clear that up immediately.

    He says he won't speculate on anything, but the timeline or what is happening doesn't make any sense to him.
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    Boy oh boy, none of this sounds like a kidnapping to me. I'm sitting here wondering what happened to her daughter, not sure she was even in the vehicle with the mom. I'm also wondering where this woman could be hiding to let this play out a bit? My hinkey meter is so far off scale with this...

    Has the current husband made any public pleas for his wife?
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    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725


    Police were called around 2:00 p.m. to the intersection of Street Road and Center Avenue in Upper Southampton when Sweeten called to report an accident.
    The crash involved that black 1990's Cadillac and her GMC.
    By the time police arrived, there was no one there.
    A short time later, the 911 call center in Philadelphia received a call from Sweeten, traced to 12th and Walnut Streets in Center City. Sweeten told police that she had been kidnapped by two men, only described as two black males, and thrown in the trunk of the Cadillac.
    She also said her daughter was still in her SUV.
    "According to the 911 call she made from the trunk of the car, she believed that they also took her car," J.J. Klaver of the FBI said.
    Investigators do say Sweeten's SUV was not at

    So the 2pm call was to report the accident, not to report she'd been kidnapped. That call came later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheLight View Post
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725


    Police were called around 2:00 p.m. to the intersection of Street Road and Center Avenue in Upper Southampton when Sweeten called to report an accident.
    The crash involved that black 1990's Cadillac and her GMC.
    By the time police arrived, there was no one there.
    A short time later, the 911 call center in Philadelphia received a call from Sweeten, traced to 12th and Walnut Streets in Center City. Sweeten told police that she had been kidnapped by two men, only described as two black males, and thrown in the trunk of the Cadillac.
    She also said her daughter was still in her SUV.
    "According to the 911 call she made from the trunk of the car, she believed that they also took her car," J.J. Klaver of the FBI said.
    Investigators do say Sweetin's SUV was not at

    So the 2pm call was to report the accident, not to report she'd been kidnapped. That call came later.

    Right...but that makes her story even more impossible....since the first call she placed pinged a tower 3 blocks away from where her suv was found.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Ex-husband/father on Fox just said Julia was pulled out of school on May 1st to be put into another school. He wanted to clear that up immediately.

    He says he won't speculate on anything, but the timeline or what is happening doesn't make any sense to him.

    Hummm, current husband needs to be questioned extensively for sure. If ex knew then it makes me think a) mom and kid where leaving town and going somewhere else b) ex- the dad, was taking kid for a bit. Of course there are endless other possiblities.
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    Does anyone know when the school year ends in this area? Seems strange to pull your child if there's only 4 or 5 weeks left of school. How hard that would have been for her child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clearly Confused View Post
    I'm thinking this mother set this up.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725

    Furthermore, police say they traced Sweeten's first 911 call to a cell phone tower near the location where the SUV was found, indicating it may have been there the entire time.
    I wonder if the first 911 call was when she reported the accident, or when she was calling to say she'd been kidnapped.
    Or maybe she called a non-emergency line to report the accident.

    This will be key to understanding whether or not mom is telling the truth.

    Or it still could be someone impersonating mom to cover for the real perp.

    I read that whoever called 911 claiming to be in the trunk gave her husband's name and a number where he could be found. I wonder if this is to set up an alibi. Maybe something happened earlier in the day, husband has someone make this call, and give info as to where to locate him, as this is all supposedly going down.
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    Has it been confirmed that Bonnie's phone made these calls to police?

    No one has said whether or not it is confirmed that Bonnie actually made these calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheLight View Post
    I wonder if the first 911 call was when she reported the accident, or when she was calling to say she'd been kidnapped.
    Or maybe she called a non-emergency line to report the accident.

    This will be key to understanding whether or not mom is telling the truth.

    Or it still could be someone impersonating mom to cover for the real perp.

    I read that whoever called 911 claiming to be in the trunk gave her husband's name and a number where he could be found. I wonder if this is to set up an alibi. Maybe something happened earlier in the day, husband has someone make this call, and give info as to where to locate him, as this is all supposedly going down.
    I mean, if I am in a trunk with my child or if the story that she was taken in the other car, what ever. If I was in a trunk I would be telling them EVERYTHING possible for them to find ME and my KID. Not worry about how to get a hold of my husband especially if we are estranged and he's not even the father. This bothers me extremely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clearly Confused View Post
    I'm surprised it sat there till 1:30 in the morning without getting towed.
    What time did the AA go out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    What time did the AA go out?

    around 7:30 pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheLight View Post
    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6832725


    Police were called around 2:00 p.m. to the intersection of Street Road and Center Avenue in Upper Southampton when Sweeten called to report an accident.
    The crash involved that black 1990's Cadillac and her GMC.
    By the time police arrived, there was no one there.
    A short time later, the 911 call center in Philadelphia received a call from Sweeten, traced to 12th and Walnut Streets in Center City. Sweeten told police that she had been kidnapped by two men, only described as two black males, and thrown in the trunk of the Cadillac.
    She also said her daughter was still in her SUV.
    "According to the 911 call she made from the trunk of the car, she believed that they also took her car," J.J. Klaver of the FBI said.
    Investigators do say Sweeten's SUV was not at

    So the 2pm call was to report the accident, not to report she'd been kidnapped. That call came later.
    I wonder how much time is "a short time." To get from South Hampton to Center City would take what, 20-25 min (without traffic)? They were also moving elephants around the city around that time because of the circus. Would you take the Schuylkill to get there?
    Also, Philly is pretty good transportation wise. She could have gotten on a train real easily. We take the train to NY all the time. You catch Amtrack at 30th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeygal View Post
    Thanks for the article. It also mentions that the cadillac found that they took for evidence is not connected?

    Something is strange here. Maybe there was no cadillac? Just mom's abandoned car? Either they were abducted or not?
    Something is seriously amiss in this case.

    Are the two suspects figments of her imagination.

    Did the accident really happen and did her vehicle show any damage to the rear end?

    I think LE knows a lot and they have suspicions about this story. IMO, their first priority is finding Julia and bringing her home safe and sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthster View Post
    Hummm, current husband needs to be questioned extensively for sure. If ex knew then it makes me think a) mom and kid where leaving town and going somewhere else b) ex- the dad, was taking kid for a bit. Of course there are endless other possiblities.
    But would she have left her new baby?

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    What's taking so long with the surveillance footage from where her car was found??????????

    Surely, they have it & viewed it by now.............


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenziema View Post
    I wonder how much time is "a short time." To get from South Hampton to Center City would take what, 20-25 min (without traffic)? They were also moving elephants around the city around that time because of the circus. Would you take the Schuylkill to get there?
    Also, Philly is pretty good transportation wise. She could have gotten on a train real easily. We take the train to NY all the time. You catch Amtrack at 30th.
    Oooo...now that is a good place to begin looking! I hope they are pulling those surveillance videos.
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    wasnt both vehicles found last night? if so how far away from last ping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    Something is seriously amiss in this case.

    Are the two suspects figments of her imagination.

    Did the accident really happen and did her vehicle show any damage to the rear end?

    I think LE knows a lot and they have suspicions about this story. IMO, their first priority is finding Julia and bringing her home safe and sound.

    imo

    I agree....they're trying to find that little girl


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    What time did the AA go out?
    I believe sometime around 8:00 pm...I will have to check.

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    Originally Posted by SharetheLight
    So the 2pm call was to report the accident, not to report she'd been kidnapped. That call came later.
    How does that even make sense? Accident at 2pm, then abduction, (stuffing a woman into a trunk in broad daylight), transporting stolen vehicle 20 miles (with a kidnapped child in it), parking the vehicle and vanishing (with child)and getting ticketed by 2:20 pm?? And no one saw ANYTHING???

    Do I have that correct?

    This is a very strange one.

    I really wonder why the police released that information about her calling them on her cell phone... If they truly believed the story, why let the abductors know she had called 911? Doesn't that put her in a more perilous situation?
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