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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I believe it was Momtective who came up with the idea ~ just speculation ~ on how Nevaeh's remains were transported as well as possibly using it to get water out of the river to mix the Quik-crete. MOO


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    Actually, Lonetraveler suggested it on the GD thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=84950&page=32

    I was just trying to spread things out a little by starting this thread now that we have a sub forum for Nevaeh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Hawk View Post
    It could just be that no vehicle was used. Maybe the perp used a boat....
    ITA This is a plausible method since that embankment looks pretty steep from what I have seen in news reports. The evil perp could manuever around without drawing attention. I know some reports have suggested 2 perps, but by using a boat it could simply be one evil perp.


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    I think the cooler concept is spot-on, and I think LE needs to look for any coolers associated with anyone that becomes a suspect!!! Gosh, I hope they read this stuff because we don't want to "bother" them with calling this kind of suggestion in.....but it could be VERY important!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Hawk View Post
    Just my opinion but I have to agree that she was killed somewhere else. This is a very popular fishing location. Would someone talk a child still alive to this location and risk being caught? I do wonder also, why this site was picked. The perp had to know that her body would be found sooner or later. Did he want her found? Surely he knew other places that were visited less often.
    ITA and I'm thinking that she may have been buried in the sallow grave with the intention of possibly moving her to a better location. Maybe after a day or two of thinking "what to do?" the perp decided to just leave the body where it was and cover it with cement.
    I don't believe Navaeh's grave was covered with the cement at the time she was buried. I think it was a day or two after she was buried.

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    Another thing to think about...It the perp did want her found, this could be a form of remorse. The concrete is used to protect her from the elements, wild animals, and from the body from decaying so fast. Is this was remorse, that's great. It means he/she will screw up sooner or later and WILL be caught!

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    The cooler theory has been discussed a lot on other forums, and it makes sense to me. Nothing suspicious about a guy (or guys) with a cooler in a fishing area. It would provide the means to conceal and move the concrete and a body, and could be used to carry water from the river.
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    are there buzzards in michigan? drivers would have seen them circling from the road early on if there hadn't been the concrete. and are search dogs able to pick up a scent if its under concrete?

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    theres something very significant about the Busch beer can. imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    theres something very significant about the Busch beer can. imo
    I believe the Busch beer can is VERY critical, and has caused me to think George K. may actually NOT be involved. I am sure LE has DNA from the beer car by now. If it matched ANYONE currently in the picture, we would be hearing about an arrest.

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    I think the Quik-rete might have been taken down the slope before Nevaeh's body was, and possibly before she was taken...or given. The weather conditions were good and dry for that whole week. Looks like there were lots of places to hide things in the area. I think the concrete could have been stashed there already and may even have been hidden there after it was stolen for a different reason.

    Feel free to pick that apart, I'm just still having a really hard time picturing someone taking the body and concrete down at the same time. And I can't see them making two trips back to a vehicle unless it was a boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Hawk View Post
    It could just be that no vehicle was used. Maybe the perp used a boat....
    If something had to make "sense" then this is it. A boat with a cooler in it, draws no suspicious looks from anyone at all as these are pretty much basic supplies nowadays for fishermen.

    A man/woman in a boat that pulls up to the bank draws no attention from passing cars, if they can be seen from the road at all. If there are 2 people. One digs shallow grave, while the other keeps a lookout for other people. Once grave is dug, remove body from cooler and place it in grave. Retrieve cement from boat, pour it over body, throw cement bag in grave, throw empty beer can in grave. 2 people grab both sides of cooler, drag it through the water, pour it over the powder cement, this would only have to be done I imagine 3 or 4 times because of the quantity of water the cooler can hold. Finished. Load up cooler, shovel and leave.Takes 30 minutes at most. Leave via the boat the way they came. I would be checking out people who rent boats or who own fishing boats or little "john" boats. Just my theory for now.JMHO.
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    Question:

    Has LE impounded any cars yet? Little NB had to be picked up somehow? Usually we hear about it, but I haven't heard it on JVM or NG. If there's a boat - who owns it? Has it been impounded? All interesting theories, but I can't see this bunch of yahoo's doing anything that makes any sense (ie, the cooler). They prolly just put her in a car and carried her to the burial site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    are there buzzards in michigan? drivers would have seen them circling from the road early on if there hadn't been the concrete. and are search dogs able to pick up a scent if its under concrete?
    Remember, the body was not encased in concrete, just covered. Dogs should have been able to find the body fairly easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Belief View Post
    are there buzzards in michigan? drivers would have seen them circling from the road early on if there hadn't been the concrete. and are search dogs able to pick up a scent if its under concrete?
    don't know about the buzzards but yes, dogs can pick up the scent under concrete, especially a shoddy job of concrete pouring as this one.
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    re using a boat, don't u think they would hve used a remote area that didn't have street access.

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