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    I am in Virginia and I am just not reading about this case today for the first time. I've never heard about it before, although missing persons cases have always attracted me, recently I started reading about unsolved murder cases, and came across this one. Have they ever run DNA/tests/compared evidence/etc to see if the Colonial Parkway Murders, The Route 29 Stalker, and the Shenandoah National Park Case are related? I am very curious to learn more about all of these cases.
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    Here is local TV station WTKR webpage with a lot of information on this case:

    http://www.wtkr.com/news/colonialparkway/

    Profilers have long suspected that a cop, or a police impersonator. Since York Town Naval Weapon Station is very close to this area I am wondering if it wasn't a former military person or even active duty. Anyway Atwell is just one of the few on a list of Suspects that the FBI will not talk about.

    2010 LE on the case named Atwell as one of the suspects He is a former sheriff in my county. http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-new-su...,5848991.story

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    Map to show the parkway (B) Is where I believe two bodies were found, and I placed the YTNWS there too:

    [ame="http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Yorktown+Naval+Weapons+Station,+Yorktow n,+VA&daddr=I-64+W&hl=en&ll=37.277058,-76.629982&spn=0.141238,0.308647&sll=37.309833,-76.633072&sspn=0.141176,0.308647&geocode=FRZLOAIdt W1v-yGbNvrdaKTN2w%3BFWXrOQId5zdt-w&vpsrc=6&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=12&t=m&z=12"]Naval Weapons Station Yorktown to I-64 W - Google Maps[/ame]

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    My name is Bill Thomas. I am the older brother of Cathleen Thomas, who together with her friend Rebecca Dowski were the first two victims in the so-called Colonial Parkway Murders, in which four young couples were murdered near Williamsburg, Virginia from 1986 to 1989.

    In an odd turn of events, Fred Atwell, the whistleblower who helped break the story that the FBI had lost control of 84 highly graphic crime scene photos in the
    Colonial Parkway Murders in Fall 2009 now appears headed for jail himself. The FBI and the Virginia State Police are still working on the case.

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    If you have any questions or thoughts regarding the Colonial Parkway
    Murders, please feel free to contact me.

    http://articles.dailypress.com/2011-...ge-fred-atwell
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_947121.html

    Thanks.



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    Last edited by bessie; 08-12-2013 at 11:57 PM. Reason: switched out links

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    From 1986 to 1989 at least 8 people were murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia and their killer was never caught.


    Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski were murdered Oct. 12th 1986. Their fully clothed bodies in the back seat of their car which had been pushed down a hill towards the water. They both had rope burns on their body, had been stranguled and then their throats cut. Their bodies had been doused in gasoline but apparently not set on fire.

    Robin Edwards and David Knobling were killed around Sept. 19th, 1987 in the Ragged Island Refuge Center. David's truck was found parked, keys in the ignition, radio still on and drivers side window half rolled down and drivers door opened. Their underwear and a pair of Robin's shoes were in the car. A few days later their bodies washed up on shore, half clothed. They had both been shot.


    April 9th, 1988 Richard Call and Cassandra Reilly disappeared after going out on a first date. Richards car was parked near a creek of the parkway.
    Both of their sets of clothing were found in the backseat, the drivers side door was opened and Call's wallet and Cassandra's purse were in the car.
    THe couple has never been seen again and they are considered to be victims of the Colonial Park Killer.

    September, 1989 AnnaMaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer went missing. Daniel's car was found close to a rest stop, most of his clothing was found in the car along with Phelp's purse. Approx a month later the couple's skeletal remains were found. They had both been stabbed.

    There is a ton of info out there. I have to get off here for a bit but will dwelve into this a little further later.

    http://parkway.crimeshadows.com/main.htm

    Colonial Parkway Killer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://journalismclass.wmblogs.net/2...4not-dead-yet/

    http://www.geocities.com/misjoy464/c...aymurders.html

    http://www.mcall.com/topic/dp-pway-1...,7570108.story

    http://labyrinth13.com/mirror/VirginiaMurders/index.htm
    I have rec'd information that Cathleen and Rebecca were doused in diesel fuel, which is why it failed to ignite. Diesel will not light with a match like gasoline.

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    Thanks for the correction, Kimster. The Colonial Parkway Murders may be linked with other cases in Virginia around that time frame, including the 1996 murder of Alicia Showalter Reynolds in the Route 29 Stalker case, and the murder of hikers Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in the Shenadoah National Park, also in 1996. Here is a link to a very good series of articles by journalist Pamela Gould in the Fredricksburg Freelance Star which explores some of the potential parallels in these cases.

    http://fredericksburg.com/News/Web/2.../29/index_html

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    Colonial Parkway Murders/All That Remains

    Quote Originally Posted by reportertype View Post
    I hope I can catch this show at some point.

    As an aside, I believe this is the case that influenced Patricia Cornwell's third novel, "All that Remains."
    You are correct. Patricia Cornwell's book "All That Remains" is based on the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders. There was an unsuccessful lawsuit several years back filed by one of the Colonial Parkway Murders families against Patricia Cornwell, alleging that she had used her access to the crime scene records through her work at the Virginia Medical Examiner's Office. My family was not involved.

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    More Developments in Colonial Parkway Murders

    There have been many more developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders case. The latest is that Fred Atwell, the whistleblower who helped break the story that the FBI had lost control of 84 highly graphic crime scene photos in the Colonial Parkway Murders now appears headed for jail himself.

    Our sister Cathy and her friend Rebecca Dowski were the first two victims
    in the Colonial Parkway case. in which at least four young couples were
    murdered near Williamsburg, Virginia from 1986 to 1989. The FBI and the
    Virginia State Police are still working on the case.

    http://www.wtkr.com/videobeta/d0b282...bery-next-week

    There is also a discussion thread on this case in the Serial Killers section of Websleuths. If you have any questions or thoughts regarding the Colonial Parkway Murders, please feel free to contact me.

    Thanks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Seifsister View Post
    Someone has leaked graphic crime-scene photographs of the most notorious serial killings in Virginia history, the Colonial Parkway murders.

    For two decades, the crime-scene pictures have been secret, critical evidence in the hunt for a serial murderer. They show how the Colonial Parkway Killer stalked couples in cars, stabbed some and shot others, and then discarded their bodies. And got away with it.

    He shoved a Honda off a bluff with two bodies inside. He snatched a couple from their truck, leaving their clothes inside. He did it again with a Toyota, and one final time at a rest area with a Chevy Nova.

    The rest of the leaked images depict more than can be shown on television. They detail where the knives slashed and the bullets struck. And they show exactly how the unknown killer left the bodies.

    Joyce Call's brother was one of the victims.

    "They took him and Sandra and they put his clothes back in the car, just tossed them. You know, all his belongings."

    For more than 20 years, the Colonial Parkway Serial Killer has kept his secrets. But the police and federal agents trying to catch him have not. For at least a year, and maybe for many years, these pictures have circulated among civilians. How they got out is now the core of an FBI investigation, and source of disgust for the families who lost loved ones.

    "These were human beings. They were brothers, sisters, sons, daughters. They were people and they were loved. Just to have the pictures floating around like that is very disrespectful."

    Joyce Call's brother, Keith was killed on a first date with Cassandra Hailey. Keith took her for a drive down the Colonial Parkway in his red Toyota Celica. Her brother's car is in a crime-scene photo never meant to be public. Joyce says she found out about the leaked photos in a phone call, not from the FBI, but from a family friend.

    "I was floored. I was floored. I was in disbelief for a while. I would like to know how they got their hands on the pictures."

    Fred Atwell says this investigation into the leaked photos shouldn't be hard.

    "It's an unsolved crime, No. 1. None of these murders have been solved, and the photographs are out in the public. I just don't think it's right."

    He's a former Gloucester deputy, who, almost a year ago, says he told authorities who leaked the pictures, how they got out, and who has them. And, he says, he was ignored.

    "I took them to the FBI and the state police, and nobody has done nothing."

    Atwell says a friend of his, a security-company owner, asked him last year to teach a class about the killings. From 1986 to 1989, four couples were either shot or slashed on the Parkway or and in other secluded spots.

    Fred Atwell was a deputy when the killer prowled this Parkway. But he didn't really know much about the case, or the couples, so he declined to teach the class. To change his mind, Atwell's friend - the owner of a private-security company - told Atwell he had crime-scene photos from the Parkway Murders. Atwell agreed to take a look. And he made copies.

    Brian Hanlon supervises the Peninsula FBI office. That means he's in charge of the Colonial Parkway cases.

    "Well, we looked into it. I think we understand where it came from. I can tell you that we recovered all the copies from the folks that we've contacted that had them. They're no longer there."

    But that's a recent development. After Atwell spoke to NewsChannel 3, we called the FBI. And only then, according to Atwell, FBI agents suddenly came knocking. Atwell says they asked for his copies, and seized photographs from the school, too. Atwell says he couldn't get a return call, until NewsChannel 3 got involved.

    Hanlon declined to explain what happened between Atwell's first complaints, and this recent scramble to retrieve the photographs. To the Call family, the FBI did not do enough to protect the families from this indignity, and protect the evidence of such terrible crimes.

    Keith Call's brother Chris is upset. "Incredibly intrusive. I don't know the law, but I hope it does not, in any way, jeopardize the case if they do find somebody."

    Hanlon says he can't speculate how the leaked evidence might affect a prosecution because there's never been anyone to prosecute. But he says he says the FBI did take this breach seriously, even if they didn't take action until a few days ago.

    "I think any time you have things out there in the public domain of somebody's loved one, and this is still an open case, that yeah, that's a serious matter."

    So much time has passed the families have just about given up hope for any resolution.

    But the FBI isn't giving up. Tuesday night at 11, they reveal for the first time how they are using new science to search for an old killer.

    Tune to NewsChannel 3 tonight at 11 for part 2 of this investigation

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    Special Agent in Charge John Boles takes over the FBI Norfolk Division from Alex J. Turner, who was promoted to the FBI office in Washington, DC. FBI Special Agent Crosby Brackett continues to work on the Colonial Parkway Murders case.

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    A Sept '11 article with a synopsis of the case and discussion on Atwater and his relation to the case.

    Fred Atwell, Controversial Figure In Colonial Parkway Murders, Arrested In Georgia
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_947121.html


    Billthom56 was Atwell ever involved in any of the official investigation of the murders?
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    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    A former deputy sheriff with ties to the Colonial Parkway murders -- a series of unsolved homicides that occurred in Virginia in the 1980s -- has pleaded guilty to scamming family members of the victims.

    On Tuesday, Fred Atwell Jr., a former Gloucester, Va., deputy, 62, pleaded guilty in York County-Poquoson Circuit Court to one count of obtaining money through false pretenses.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1373484.html
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I was reading on topix but now lost the link but family members were talking to another poster who didn't name the person but states they figured out who it was. It was something like it is linked to a rash of homicides that happened in near by West Point and Gloucester/matthews Virginia around the time. I wished I had the link, but lost it. They had linked to the article about the rash of murders in west point.

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    I think all of the cases on http://parkway.crimeshadows.com/liberty.htm are connected, but Davis Knobling and Robin Edwards seem different to me, it's that window that was rolled half way down that bugs me, because it seems the only reason for them to roll the window down in the middle of a stormy, rainy night is to smoke (did either of them smoke at all?) or if they were pulled over and asked for an ID by some type of authority figure, or someone posing as one. The private detective (info can be found on link above) does fit the theory that they were stopped by an authority figure, and Brian Pettinger as well as Laurie Powell are connected by him.
    As for the other cases, it seems sex and robbery weren't a motive, the person wanted to kill, reminds me of the zodiac killer. They pray on couples, I don't know if these are "hate crimes", I think it's more someone who loved to simply kill, a serial killer.
    I want to continue researching this and other cases like it in the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    A Sept '11 article with a synopsis of the case and discussion on Atwater and his relation to the case.





    Billthom56 was Atwell ever involved in any of the official investigation of the murders?
    From the linked article about Atwell's arrest:

    Thomas also said Atwell made an interesting call to police following the alleged robbery he committed earlier this week.

    "He called [a] suicide hotline and said that he is suicidal, a suspect in a serial murder [investigation] and wanted to commit suicide by cop," Thomas said.

    Authorities have yet to confirm whether the call took place.
    Begs the question, has Atwell ever been investigated and eliminated as a suspect? He says he worked in LE at the time of the murders, though I've had a difficult time finding out exactly who he worked for.

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