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    Finland - Orivesi, woman found in forest, Apr'07 - Name withheld

    Hi!

    I registered here to let you know about this mystery we have in our hands here in Finland. A young womans body was found in a middle of a forest in Finland over two years ago. Her identity is still unknown and it is likely that she is not a Finnish citizen. Nobody knows where she is from.

    I ask of you to visit www.tuntematon.info or www.identifyme.org to know more about this case. If you can be at any help or if you have ideas regarding this case, please make a note of it in our guest book!

    Thank you!
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    Exclamation Oriveden vainaja

    Hi

    thanks for starting this thread.

    The case is rather baffling.

    I am familiar with the case. She was found deceased in Orivesi, in Finland two years ago.

    The efforts to identify this person have been unsuccessful so far.

    The cause of death is also a mystery, but the case was not treated as a homicide, so i am assuming her death was ruled suicide or she died from natural causes (from illness).

    The case is known in Finland as 'oriveden vainaja'.

    No sketch has been released of this person.

    It is strange that this person is now deceased for two years, but so far no one obviously hasn't been looking her.

    She had no family, no relatives, anyone at all???

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    The link in the opening post has some sketches:
    http://www.tuntematon.info/thesketches.php

    She may have been German since two pieces of a German passport were found in her bag. Why was her passport in pieces?

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    To my great surprise, you are correct a sketch is now released.

    I remember when the story first broke, the police did not release any sketches, saying that the body was in a bad condition, no artist available etc





    Well, reportedly two tiny pieces of her passport was found.
    Well all indications are that the woman did not want to be identified.. Looks like she destroyed her passport.
    Perhaps suffered from depression, wanted a place to hide etc

    I believe the finnish police contacted other countries, also Germany, Europol, Interpol etc, but without any success.

    No idea at all, where she is from, the case got a lot of media attention in Finland, but no one ever came forward with any useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Why was her passport in pieces?
    At this point your guess is as good as anyone else's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Facts given View Post
    To my great surprise, you are correct a sketch is now released.

    I remember when the story first broke, the police did not release any sketches, saying that the body was in a bad condition, no artist available etc
    You´re quite right, those sketches were drawn recently from photos taken by police.

    Quote Originally Posted by Facts given View Post
    I believe the finnish police contacted other countries, also Germany, Europol, Interpol etc, but without any success.

    No idea at all, where she is from, the case got a lot of media attention in Finland, but no one ever came forward with any useful information.
    Right again, still no idea who is she or where did she came from. That´s the reason why we made identifyMe.org/tuntematon.info

    siteadmin @ identifyMe.org

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    Great job! It is a very informative site
    Hopefully she will not remain 'unidentified' forever.

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    We may have some more info from the case in a few days (propably after finnish Juhannus at this upcoming weekend, big holiday when the whole country is shut down), nuthin big but some bits and pieces which may help us just a little bit further again..

    siteadmin @ identifyMe.org

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    I am wondering whether she has had an eating disorder at some time. She was quite thin and young to have osteoporosis, even at 40
    Just wondering...
    England's dancing days are done...

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    What were the pills I wonder?
    England's dancing days are done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Facts given View Post
    The cause of death is also a mystery
    Quote Originally Posted by badhorsie View Post
    What were the pills I wonder?
    For some reason finnish police hasnt released any information about pills or cause of death even though both are already resolved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    The link in the opening post has some sketches:
    http://www.tuntematon.info/thesketches.php

    She may have been German since two pieces of a German passport were found in her bag. Why was her passport in pieces?
    Very interesting regarding the passport. Seems intentional??? I'm sorry, but if I had done these sketches, I would wish to remain anonymous too! Though I suppose it's better than nothing!

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    Finnish? Jane Doe

    IIRC these pills were described as prescription pills in one article.

    Well, these sketches are better than nothing, her remains were fund in the woods, her face was not recognizable, her body was in a bad conditon, due to decomposition and perhaps wild animals.

    It's been thought she is not from eastern europe or Russia,
    her dental work was described as 'western style'.
    She had german and english coins in her purse.

    She must have had relatives, friends, why no one is looking for her?
    She had no job, no social contacts? Strange.

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    Rätselhaft!

    The details of this case really strike me on a personal level as I transition in and out of the German/English speaking world fairly often being a dual citizen. It is a shame that none of the items lend themselves in one was or another as to determining possible nationality (well, other than the remains of the passport of course and I suppose the German euro coins and cigarettes, though i see the latter items as incidentals acquired through travel). I tend to think, without any real justification, that this woman had more more familiarity with the English language/world. There just seems to be a prevailing anglocentrism about the objects. The language settings of the MP3 player as well as the music selection, The Calvin and Hobbes book in English, The Next clothing she was wearing (British clothing/dept store- I don't believe there are any in Germany).

    As for why she has yet to be identified I suspect it is because she took extreme efforts to not only conceal her identity in death, but also to take her life in a place she and those close to her were unfamiliar and not likely to look for her.

    I wonder if it might not be possible, given the good condition of her teeth, to do isotope analysis to determine her place of origin. I'm sure it is a last resort scenario but given what little there is to go on it might narrow the field.

    For those who might have interest in looking the following sites have fairly comprehensive listings of those missing in the UK and Germany respectively since there seems to be some general consensus that these might be places to start. I have already browsed through and have noted two very remote possibilities.

    http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/arey...issing/adults/ (UK)
    http://www.vermisstenfahndung.de/start.htm (Germany, it is alphabetical under 'Vermisste Personen')

    Also, Interpol's list of fugitive women;

    http://www.interpol.int/Public/Wante...ocTitle%2CRank[d]&qu=(+%40META_PERSON_NOTIFICATION__TYPE_OF_NOTIFIC ATION+PUBLIC_RED+)+%26+(+%40META_PERSON__SEX+Femal e+)&mh=8&sh=56&nStartHit=0&cboNbHitsPerPage=8&cboN bPages=20

    I have also been looking at the following site to get insight into what the 'GET ACT.' logo on the sports bag might be for, it almost looks like a promotional bag to me the kind one would get for free from participation in or for signing up for something.

    http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/search/95674414/

    I really look forward to hearing any updates about this case.
    Last edited by MaedchenX; 06-19-2009 at 01:58 AM.

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    This is very interesting. I believe now with the European travel rules you can go anywhere without a passport, is that right? Even more reason to think she may have come from another country.
    And think, if she had told her family she was travelling (say, in Germany, hence the coins) and ended up in Finland, who would think to look there?
    It's very good of you to bring this to the attention of the wider sleuthing community!

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    Since many European countries adopted the common money, euros, the nationality of the coins doesn't mean all that much, I believe. Since euros from every country can be used in any other euro country they get shuffled across the countries because people travel and she might have gotten the German coins when she bought a candy bar at the local supermarket at Orivesi.

    Unless it was a disproportionately great number of coins from a certain country. Did she have any Finnish euro coins or just the German ones?

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