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    Light levels and floor marks

    Time for another video segment. Check this one out:

    http://s92053900.onlinehome.us/lights.wmv

    As you will be able to see, this was from the Bill Kurtis A&E program. The cameraman positioned himself in the southeast corner of the windowless room, in the dark, and then photographed Bill and Dave Williams as they opened the door.

    What this clip makes real, which abstract words are not so capable of doing, is just what the light levels were in that room, even when the hallway light was on. I made these two particular frame grabs from the video:





    Look at the second picture. You will see that when a person is standing in the doorway, there is even less light cast into the room than there is when nobody is standing there. And even when nobody is standing directly in the doorway, there is very little light.

    Now, another aspect to what this video reveals comes when the cameraman repositions himself in the doorway of the room, and films from the northwest corner into the southeast. Here is what he sees:



    There is a reference mark on the floor we will use later. Here it is:



    Here is a photo of the blanket JonBenet's body was laying on inside the room.



    Do you see the reference mark from the second picture? Here, this will help:



    I must say, I had been assuming that JonBenet's body was placed much closer to the door than was true. But this evidence shows how she was really laying not immediately inside the door, but a noticeable distance away in the southeast corner of the room. With the light level so demonstrably low in that part of the room, no wonder Fleet White saw nothing. But even more interesting, what we can see from these facts is that John also, even with the hallway lit up brightly behind him, should not have been able to see her, unless his eyes were immediately able to adapt to both the bright light of the hallway and the intense darkness of the room. Of course, if he turned on the light she would have been visible, but he has been adamant about saying that he opened the door and there she was, right there.

    Thoughts?

    (Bonus observation: see the item circled in this picture?)



    (That is the same item which appears in this picture.)

    "That is my theory, it is mine, and belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too." -- Anne Elk

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    interesting

    now where is the hidden safe photo located in the first two pictures of the original crime scene?

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    now was that the back side of the black duct tape that we see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedthan Johns
    now where is the hidden safe photo located in the first two pictures of the original crime scene?
    The safe, in the numbered crime scene photos, is out of frame on the left side of the picture. See those dark screens? They are leaning against the north wall of the room. The safe is closer to the north wall and the door. In the photos of the lit room from the A&E program, the cameraman was standing with his feet likely right next to the floor safe, and the lens is never tilted down far enough in the video footage to catch it (nor should it be, it is not the cameraman's job to film his own shoes or what is near them).
    "That is my theory, it is mine, and belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too." -- Anne Elk

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    Pretty remarkable considering John's eyesight was so compromised by cataracts he couldn't pilot a plane. I hope they took into consideration the time differences for when Fleet checked the room and John. My basement has different light patterns depending on the hour and even season.

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    This hidden safe in the wine cellar floor, did it contain anything at the night of the crime?

    How deep was it?

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    The police drilled into it but they've never revealed what, if anything, was in the safe.

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    I think either John was good at Clue or he had a clue. He knew his wife. He knew where to look. Light or no light.

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    observations

    I think the observations made in this post are very interesting.

    JBR was NOT lying close to the door. She would be hard to see without turning the light on.
    If JR screamed BEFORE turning the light on this indicates that he KNEW she was there. FW would sure find that strange if it indeed was the case.
    It is NOT that strange that FW didn't notice the body under the circumstances if he didn't turn the light on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumble
    I think the observations made in this post are very interesting.

    JBR was NOT lying close to the door. She would be hard to see without turning the light on.
    If JR screamed BEFORE turning the light on this indicates that he KNEW she was there. FW would sure find that strange if it indeed was the case.
    It is NOT that strange that FW didn't notice the body under the circumstances if he didn't turn the light on.
    Quite correct. PLUS, the switch was in an odd position.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    Quite correct. PLUS, the switch was in an odd position.
    Ditto.


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    Why Nut am I mistaken or does that last photo linked (with the pic of JBR) have another handwriting sample? "House Paint" with that "a" on the box?

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    Handwriting on Box

    Looks like there's three words. Where's the "A"?

    Good catch, and what dark thing is hanging from behind her ear and why?
    Does her expression say something is being done to her when that picture was taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1

    Good catch, and what dark thing is hanging from behind her ear and why?
    Does her expression say something is being done to her when that picture was taken?
    I think that's just a shadow, Eagle1.

    Never considered her expression. She does look a little scared, doesn't she?

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    Her Facial Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    ..... She does look a little scared, doesn't she?
    I'll say. What could be going on? A photo-shoot, for starters, I guess. Was she apprehensive about the photographer, something he wanted her to do, and alone with him, or what? If I'm on the right track at all, you wouldn't think he'd even shoot such an expression, would you?

    He evidently had no idea at the time that she would end up dead and he could become a suspect.

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