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    Quote Originally Posted by GannyP View Post
    Why wouldn't she contact anyone for help after she escaped? GUILTY!
    and why would she call him twice after she was driving, other than to give herself an alibi that she was not near the house - she is guilty IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by laura08 View Post
    I think she is guilty. The website quick trips to hell, has a video on it of her speaking and she is soooo calm though the whole thing and could come across as being very believable to some. I watched it and her composure is shocking and the way she speaks. http://pysih.com/2009/06/21/jodi-ann-arias/
    I agree, I watched it about 3 weeks ago and at first I was like "geez she can't be the killer!" until I saw all of the evidence. She's very confident in her story now (imo almost too confident), but it doesn't add up.

    Even the way she speaks. Her tone, everything, sounds fake to me.


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    I don't think I've ever seen anyone more guilty. Casey looks like a criminal mastermnd next to her. I'm surprised there aren't any pictures of her actually killing him. She is a bold faced liar and I don't even think she believes what she says.


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    Thanks gaia227 for starting this thread, I saw the story a while ago and was interested in seeing it play out. Her home town is Yreka and my inlaws live there, they don't know her or her family but that alone caught my attention.

    Her demeanor is so odd, she comes off as quite religious and demure, but the facts of the case and testimony from those who knew her and Travis indicate otherwise. Her story does not add up or make sense. The couple who took Travis under their wing saw many things in her that sent off alarm bells early on and she was not welcome in their home. Trial is scheduled for February 2010. I'd like to hear comments on what fellow sleuthers think her psy. profile would read like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyzgirl View Post
    BBM: I assume she took the pics because like you said she seems like a sociopath and wanted a memory - only someone crazy would do that I would think, maybe she downloaded them to a laptop and deleted the memory card threw it in the washing machine, hoping that it would get destroyed and the LE wouldn't be able to get any images off of it.

    I wonder if he got a call from another girl/gf and she went ballistic and that's the reason the crime is so violent and vicious, from what I heard last night on the show, she was obsessed with him.
    I also watched the show, and the part about the photo memory card I couldn't understand at all. Why didn't she take the camera and dispose of it somewhere else, far away from the crime scene? From what I know of the case, it seems LE arrested the right person. Her story of fleeing from the intruders is unbelievable. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I also watched the show, and the part about the photo memory card I couldn't understand at all. Why didn't she take the camera and dispose of it somewhere else, far away from the crime scene? From what I know of the case, it seems LE arrested the right person. Her story of fleeing from the intruders is unbelievable. MOO

    I know. DUH! Why would leave the camera at the scene? I think about what I would do if I were in her situation and maybe I am just ultra careful but one thing I certainly would not do is leave a freaking camera with the memory card still in it. Maybe because I watch crime shows, etc I am more knowledgable about what resources LE has to retain that kind of info. She certainly did not cover her tracks very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Thanks gaia227 for starting this thread, I saw the story a while ago and was interested in seeing it play out. Her home town is Yreka and my inlaws live there, they don't know her or her family but that alone caught my attention.

    Her demeanor is so odd, she comes off as quite religious and demure, but the facts of the case and testimony from those who knew her and Travis indicate otherwise. Her story does not add up or make sense. The couple who took Travis under their wing saw many things in her that sent off alarm bells early on and she was not welcome in their home. Trial is scheduled for February 2010. I'd like to hear comments on what fellow sleuthers think her psy. profile would read like.

    Court minute entries can be found here http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...r=CR2008031021#
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    I think she has entitlement issues and thinks she is entitled to certain things and once she has something or someone it is HERS. She has to be first and the most special. She is manipulative, she uses her religion to try to fool people into thinking she is something she isn't. After watching the interview I believe she is a sociopath. She is completely egocentric, everything revolves around her, she is a narcissist, self-centered and I do not think she feels any remorse for what happened. I think she feels like Travis deserved it because she was not giving her what she wanted and would not bend to her will.

    I don't know about her upbringing but I am going to assume she grew up with parents who had high expectations of her, were very religious and very concerned with what other people thought. I think Jodi was given most everything she wanted materialistic growing up and was instilled with strong ideas of ownership. She grew up and behaved as her parents wanted her too eventhough that was not who she really was. She became very good at masking her feelings. At some point I think she began to believe she was the person her family wanted her to be and she was able to justify or reconcile it when she did things she knew were not in accordance with her belief system. I think she was a very confused girl.

    She let her guard down around Travis. She exposed herself a little more to him. When he rejected her it was a harder blow because she felt he knew HER moreso than anyone else. I think there was a part of her that was scared he would tell people about their sexual exploits, her behavior in general and she would be exposed for who she really was.

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    I think she is a sociopath and a manipulator. I wonder, if she didn't realize the camera was on the bed, when she tossed the sheets into the washing machine, which would make sense as to why it was located in the washing machine. She is definitely not the brightest bulb in the pack that's for sure. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

    I found this to be a very interesting read, not sure if anyone has read it or not yet, though I thought I'd share it.

    http://***********.blogspot.com/search?q=Jodi+Arias


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    Good point about the camera being tangled in the bedding, she was after all a semi-professional photographer or had aspirations to be. Washing a camera and leaving it just did not fit. But rushing to leave a crime scene and overlooking or not being able to find it does make sense. How creepy was it that she took photos after the attack, did she intend to print them and relive the murder?

    I agree with all gaia227 said in regards to sociopathy, however in reading some of the news articles, comments and blogs I am getting a sense that Travis had a few different sides to his personality as well. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify what I believe she did to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyzgirl View Post
    I think she is a sociopath and a manipulator. I wonder, if she didn't realize the camera was on the bed, when she tossed the sheets into the washing machine, which would make sense as to why it was located in the washing machine. She is definitely not the brightest bulb in the pack that's for sure. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

    I found this to be a very interesting read, not sure if anyone has read it or not yet, though I thought I'd share it.

    http://***********.blogspot.com/search?q=Jodi+Arias
    Your link does not work for me.


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    Was I hearing things or did she say, "I'm not comfortable in front of the camera and I'd rather be the one taking pictures" (or something along those lines?)

    I want to say this appeared near the beginning of the show?

    Anyway, that was another statement she made (or similar) that caused me to question her, in my mind. She seemed perfectly at ease being filmed (for the 48 Hours show) and apparently she didn't seem too camera smart because she could have simply taken the camera or removed the memory card. She had time to grab her purse, why not the camera or memory card?

    I'm just thinking about how she escaped the 2 murderers (one's a female and the other a male) and according to her, Travis was not able to get out of there... how does that happen?

    The camera being mussed up in the bed sheets is one good reason, but how did anyone have time to erase the memory card? If my memory serves correctly, LE was able to "retrieve" the images from a memory card and it led me to believe they were once erased? (Please let me know if I heard it all wrong.)

    Also, the portion of the interview when she said she would rather get the death penalty vs life in prison, struck me as odd. Most people seem to proclaim their innocense?

    IIRC, she only devoted herself to Travis' religion when they were together? I'm not sure she was a religious gal beforehand? I also noticed that her family, her friends, etc... didn't seem to appear on the show in her defense? Did I miss that? (It's not impossible that I would have missed parts... I may have been dozing off?)

    I keep tossing it around in my head, and I still feel like she is very guilty.


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    She's Guilty, Guilty, Guilty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Your link does not work for me.
    It doesn't work for me either, when I click on it from here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Good point about the camera being tangled in the bedding, she was after all a semi-professional photographer or had aspirations to be. Washing a camera and leaving it just did not fit. But rushing to leave a crime scene and overlooking or not being able to find it does make sense. How creepy was it that she took photos after the attack, did she intend to print them and relive the murder?

    I agree with all gaia227 said in regards to sociopathy, however in reading some of the news articles, comments and blogs I am getting a sense that Travis had a few different sides to his personality as well. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify what I believe she did to him.

    Definitely. I think so to and I think maybe that is why Jodi felt comfortable being more herself around him because she knew he had some 'dark' sides to him as well.

    Did you look at his myspace page? He seemed pretty full of himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    Was I hearing things or did she say, "I'm not comfortable in front of the camera and I'd rather be the one taking pictures" (or something along those lines?)

    I want to say this appeared near the beginning of the show?

    Anyway, that was another statement she made (or similar) that caused me to question her, in my mind. She seemed perfectly at ease being filmed (for the 48 Hours show) and apparently she didn't seem too camera smart because she could have simply taken the camera or removed the memory card. She had time to grab her purse, why not the camera or memory card?

    I'm just thinking about how she escaped the 2 murderers (one's a female and the other a male) and according to her, Travis was not able to get out of there... how does that happen?

    The camera being mussed up in the bed sheets is one good reason, but how did anyone have time to erase the memory card? If my memory serves correctly, LE was able to "retrieve" the images from a memory card and it led me to believe they were once erased? (Please let me know if I heard it all wrong.)


    I keep tossing it around in my head, and I still feel like she is very guilty.

    Snipped.

    In answer to you question I think the easiest answer is because she is lying. There was no one else there, she had time to erase the pics off the memory card, she had time to turn the shower on and run it over Travis's body, she had time to throw the bedding into the wash. She was stupid to not take the memory card with her. As to why she put the camera in the washer - who knows? I think the theory it was on the bed and got thrown in with the bedding and in her frenzied state just didn't notice she left the camera behind. You weren't hearing things - the memory card was still in the camera with it erased but LE was able to retrieve the images anyway. Obviously the most damning picture being of Travis dying. There is really no way for her to explain how that picture was taken. The 2 killers went and got the camera and did it? I don't think so.

    Correct me if I am mistaken but I think the camera was Travis's.
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