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    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    No picture but bits of clues to circumstances on page from the Campbell County Public Library System in Wyoming.
    On page 352 of this pdf file are 8 periodical headlines & dates for Paul Hibbard. They are:
    7/6/1976 Man charged with theft of missing geologist's too...(tools? toolbox?)
    7/7/1976 Sheriff airborne in search
    8/23/1976 Missing geologist's truck found
    1/20/1977 Tests indicate blood in vehicle
    1/25/1977 Guilty plea entered for taking equipment from geo....
    3/18/1977 Sentencing set Monday for Dowdy
    3/22/1977 Dowdy gets penitentiary sentence
    5/27/1977 Hibbard probe continuing
    http://www.ccpls.org/localhistory/Lo...y1970_1979.pdf

    Maybe this will help someone find a photo. But it doesn't sound like he'd be able to travel to SC based on those headlines to be part of this mystery couple.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KateB View Post
    No picture but bits of clues to circumstances on page from the Campbell County Public Library System in Wyoming.
    On page 352 of this pdf file are 8 periodical headlines & dates for Paul Hibbard. They are:
    7/6/1976 Man charged with theft of missing geologist's too...(tools? toolbox?)
    7/7/1976 Sheriff airborne in search
    8/23/1976 Missing geologist's truck found
    1/20/1977 Tests indicate blood in vehicle
    1/25/1977 Guilty plea entered for taking equipment from geo....
    3/18/1977 Sentencing set Monday for Dowdy
    3/22/1977 Dowdy gets penitentiary sentence
    5/27/1977 Hibbard probe continuing
    http://www.ccpls.org/localhistory/Lo...y1970_1979.pdf

    Maybe this will help someone find a photo. But it doesn't sound like he'd be able to travel to SC based on those headlines to be part of this mystery couple.
    I can't get the page to load - I'll try later. I really would like to read it especially now that I read blood was found in the vehicle which was located after the bodies were found. I'd like to know if he was present in the court and who is Dowdy? Why should blood be found in a missing truck of stoken tools ? Interesting Maybe I can find a mug shot of him. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janet View Post
    I can't get the page to load - I'll try later. I really would like to read it especially now that I read blood was found in the vehicle which was located after the bodies were found. I'd like to know if he was present in the court and who is Dowdy? Why should blood be found in a missing truck of stoken tools ? Interesting Maybe I can find a mug shot of him. Thanks
    There isn't anymore information in the file, just these headlines. I don't even know for sure which newspaper this is a list from, but possibly http://www.gillettenewsrecord.com/
    I'm not sure how old the Gillette News is, or if that county has more than one newspaper.

    From their about us: "The daily newspaper - the only daily newspaper covering Gillette and Campbell County " Established 1904. So most likely from that paper.


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    The couple's remains were exhumed in 2007 for DNA samples, but I cannot find anything showing where their DNA profiles have ever been compared to any missing persons.
    I have not found this couple in NAMUS either. Wonder why not? It seems that when the previous coroner retired that the interest in this case was also officially retired. How does one get this couple's case registered with NAMUS?

    Well never mind, I see now that SLED has to officially enter the cases into NAMUS.
    Last edited by scmom; 06-23-2012 at 02:03 AM. Reason: Added info


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    Can a civilian request SLED that these 2 be put in NAMUS? Well, I guess anybody can, but I mean will they listen? Or must it go through LE?


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    Quote Originally Posted by websurfer View Post
    I wondered about Christopher King, too, but I might have his case confused with someone else because I thought he was going to Mexico with a woman, who was also missing. He might be too short and have too light of a complexion to be the male UID.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1752/74

    I found the woman, I mistakenly thought went to Mexico with Christopher King. Her name is Linda Miller. She went to Mexico with someone named Cary Kristal (I am not sure if he is also missing) and never returned in 1973. I'm not sure if Ms. Miller and Mr. Krystal could be the mystery couple.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11802/57
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-08-2012 at 01:22 AM. Reason: Replaced Linda Miller image with smaller one.


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    Have Stephen Packard and Linda Lovell ever been looked into/ruled out as being the mystery couple? I searched the threads and saw a lot of couples who went missing together mentioned, but not them.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14418/70

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9136/71


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    Boating company owner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterylover View Post
    Liz, I read a long time back, the males dental work was of exceptional quality..very expensive and of quality workmanship.
    I also read where a Gentleman that owned a Boating company claimed to have known who they were before he suddenly died.

    Does anyone remember reading that just by 'coincidence' the house/office that housed the camping files, names, personal info of all the campers just 'happened' to burn up after the couple was murdered...
    Why is it taking years and years to get the DNA results...everything in this case is hinky..Hmmmmmm!..imo
    I was wondering where this information about a boating company owner came from? Could you please explain.....and yes.....this is very hinky!


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    Wow Ambercat. All four of those people that you have posted look similar to the couple!
    Do you have language questions or letters/documents that you'd like to have examined in order to determine the language background of the writer? I can help!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambercat View Post

    ...

    I found the woman, I mistakenly thought went to Mexico with Christopher King. Her name is Linda Miller. She went to Mexico with someone named Cary Kristal (I am not sure if he is also missing) and never returned in 1973. I'm not sure if Ms. Miller and Mr. Krystal could be the mystery couple.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11802/57
    Here's a photo of Cary Wendell Kristal:



    BTW - Several months ago, I spoke with the detective in charge of Linda Miller's case, and he says that Ms. Miller and Mr. Kristal were down in Guadalajara protesting against the government on behalf of the farmers. The hotel that they were staying at burned to the ground, and it is presumed that they were inside. But their bodies were never recovered.
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    As always I say they were murdered by a serial killer



    It seems to me the couple was lured by maybe a Hitchiker type person?
    No sexual assault means could be another couple?
    Maybe a couple did this?




    #789UMCO unidentified found The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
    Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery he left a note to "LIB"
    PLEASE HELP me find out who this unidentified person is so he can be buried rightfully near his family...


    I DO NOT TOLERATE HARASSMENT...


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    definately similar

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambercat View Post
    Have Stephen Packard and Linda Lovell ever been looked into/ruled out as being the mystery couple? I searched the threads and saw a lot of couples who went missing together mentioned, but not them.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14418/70

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9136/71




    #789UMCO unidentified found The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
    Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery he left a note to "LIB"
    PLEASE HELP me find out who this unidentified person is so he can be buried rightfully near his family...


    I DO NOT TOLERATE HARASSMENT...


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    I read that John Doe had extensive dental work - bridge and caps etc. To me this sounds more like he was in an accident and had repairs done, rather than just bad teeth. I know someone who in the seventies was in an accident where their lower face took the impact and they had to have a lot of dental work involving caps and bridges to repair the damage. If someone had had that sort fo work it might also slightly change the way they looked as well (not that much though I would have thought).


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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    I read that John Doe had extensive dental work - bridge and caps etc. To me this sounds more like he was in an accident and had repairs done, rather than just bad teeth. I know someone who in the seventies was in an accident where their lower face took the impact and they had to have a lot of dental work involving caps and bridges to repair the damage. If someone had had that sort fo work it might also slightly change the way they looked as well (not that much though I would have thought).
    The young guy had also had several root canals done along with the other dental work... which would probably indicate tooth decay... and if he had oral surgery following an accident, it would probably have shown up in the autopsy results...

    Actually, the dental work could indicate someone who had been very poor, and not had any access to a dentist. And then came into quite a lot of $$$ and had his teeth worked on, including some expensive cosmetic dentistry...

    And they had both had recent manicures and pedicures...

    One possibility : mid seventies... possibly Latino... seemed to have a lot of disposable $$$ ( manicures,pedicures etc )...in the south,possibly with some connections to Florida.

    Wonder if they were Colombians...?


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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    One possibility : mid seventies... possibly Latino... seemed to have a lot of disposable $$$ ( manicures,pedicures etc )...in the south,possibly with some connections to Florida.

    Wonder if they were Colombians...?
    Liz, that's possible, but if you want to take the documentary Cocaine Cowboys at face value as far as the time line set out by the men and women interviewed, the Colombians associated with the Cartels only really showed up later in the very late 70s. The case of the Mystery Couple just feels too early to be tied up with the hardcore drug scene as it developed in Florida a few years later.


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