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    The Brother & the Bike Fight

    This is the place to put all the known information (reminding everyone he is a minor in this case) about the brother and information about the fight. The information is conflicting about where the fight took place, who witnessed the fight, and what time J arrived home after the fight. We can sort it out here! (Hopefully!)
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    Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house. When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night, Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1

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    Lindsey's mother, Melissa Baum, fears that her daughter, who was set to enter the sixth grade this fall, was abducted.

    Her mother says Lindsey argued with her brother on her way to the friend's house, and after talking with the playmate a bit, she started for home as darkness fell.

    Article:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07...y5127770.shtml
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    Here, I bet, is where the idea got started that the person who broke up the squabble is the same person who saw Lindsey after she left her friend's house:
    GRACE: Are they absolutely certainly -- back out to Steve Friederich with "The Daily World" joining us from Aberdeen. Are they absolutely certain about the date and the time the neighbor that spotted her, about the date and the time she spotted the little girl?

    FRIEDERICH: You know, I asked about that. And the sheriff seems to say yes. I mean, the neighbor knew the child and the neighbor knew the brother. That the neighbor had actually stopped a fight between the two of them, like, shortly beforehand. And the neighbor was on the way to work. She`s a public employee, works for a nearby county.

    Nancy Grace transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ng.01.html
    Now, I happen to think Friederich might be wrong about them being the same person. Wrong facts get thrown around a lot on Nancy Grace's show. On the other hand, this local reporter is saying that the sheriff gave him this info.

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    A different version of events from Kara:
    Kampen said she has replayed that Friday evening in her head over and over. So has her daughter, [MK], 10, who spent the day swimming with Lindsey. They walked together with JB, 13, to the Kampen house. But halfway there, MK said they teased JB, getting under his skin enough so he turned around and couldn’t walk back with Lindsey. That’s something he now regrets deeply, Kampen said.
    http://www.thedailyworld.com/article...d302573546.txt

    (Minors' names initialized by me.)

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    The family’s been trying hard to make Josh stay put. At one point, the 12-year-old went around the neighborhood on his bike calling out Lindsey’s name. He feels guilty because shortly before she disappeared, the two had a sibling argument over a bike.

    Sometimes she could make a mountain out of a mole hill, the family says, but they don’t think any of that played into a runaway scenario.

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    The version:

    Lindsey left her cell phone at home before leaving to play with friends Friday, said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott. Lindsey’s older brother had left the Maple Street residence before his sister after the two had a dispute over the bike Lindsey had borrowed from him that day – a common occurrence between frequently squabbling siblings, Scott added.
    http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/n...ry/795384.html

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    From what I have read and what i have seen in these discussions, I continously wonder if JB has ever been asked or ever came forward himself to say who the person was that sent him home after the arguement over the bike. Did I miss something about that information? Thanks
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    I almost hate to ask this question... but do we know EXACTLY where JB was when Lindsey disappeared? Was he at home with his Mom or with a friend or was he still outdoors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busylady View Post
    Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house. When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night, Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1
    I am a little puzzled by the mother's remarks. She stated that Lindsey left with her brother to go to her friend's house hoping to get permission to stay the night; a family friend broke up a squabble between the siblings, and sent the boy home (before knowing if permission for Lindsey to stay was given); yet, when Lindsey never came home by 10pm, she was worried. How did she know Lindsey wasn't going to stay the night? I wonder if she had contacted the other child's mother, and found out she had not allowed Lindsey to stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicada View Post
    I am a little puzzled by the mother's remarks. She stated that Lindsey left with her brother to go to her friend's house hoping to get permission to stay the night; a family friend broke up a squabble between the siblings, and sent the boy home (before knowing if permission for Lindsey to stay was given); yet, when Lindsey never came home by 10pm, she was worried. How did she know Lindsey wasn't going to stay the night? I wonder if she had contacted the other child's mother, and found out she had not allowed Lindsey to stay.
    Actually, Lindsey and her friend were supposedly going to the friend's house to find out if the friend could spend the night at Lindsey's house.

    It just occurred to me that the mom's report of what happened during the bike squabble has to be hearsay since she wasn't with them. I wonder who told her about it and when.

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    There are so many questions left unanswered by the two mothers. Why don't the reporters dig deeper to find out "who told who" what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
    Actually, Lindsey and her friend were supposedly going to the friend's house to find out if the friend could spend the night at Lindsey's house.

    It just occurred to me that the mom's report of what happened during the bike squabble has to be hearsay since she wasn't with them. I wonder who told her about it and when.
    Thank you so much. I read that wrong. I wonder who told her too. I doubt it was the family friend. Weren't they on their way to work? Maybe JB told her when he returned home.
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    I am wondering if he (JB) went home when the squabble was stopped... and if he did... did he go home and stay there or did he go home and leave again before LB was suppose to get there? Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it.

    So many questions.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selchie View Post
    I am wondering if he (JB) went home when the squabble was stopped... and if he did... did he go home and stay there or did he go home and leave again before LB was suppose to get there? Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it.

    So many questions.......
    Welcome to WS, Selchie~ I don't think it has been verified what actually took place with the brother by anyone yet after the supposed fight. Those are questions I would like answers to myself. My first thought was the brother did something to her.
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