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    I wanted to thank you for all the hard work you have done enlarging the POI photos. Do you still feel as you did that this was a security officer or someone impersonating one ? Thanks again rd jfc
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    The scent dog has the POI back at JK's condo complex. There is video, albeit grainy, of him. But no one at Millenium recalls seeing anyone who looks like the POI around 12 :15 - 12:30 that day ? Where did he go ? Unless he was working there, and blended in. jmo
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    The problem is, no one saw him once he exited camera view. Im sure the distortion of color for his clothes didn't help either..
    Where is Jennifer Kesse? Abducted Jan. 24th, 2006
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    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79260

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    So LE estimated his height, and he's short. JK is/was 5' 8 ", He probably had to adjust the driver's seat to drive her car. Did he adjust it back to fit with JK's height when he parked it ? is that what he did after he parked, in the 30 seconds that LE said he sat in the vehicle after he parked it ? If he did adjust the seat back, that shows how careful he was, as does the thoroughness he used when wiping the car's interior. I get the strangest feeling that the POI only dealt with the vehicle. As in, his "job" was to wipe the car down, and ditch it at HOTG. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by scadagirl28 View Post
    I wanted to thank you for all the hard work you have done enlarging the POI photos. Do you still feel as you did that this was a security officer or someone impersonating one ? Thanks again rd jfc
    Thanks scadagirl. Every bit of feedback helps. He pretty much matches to a T the uniform of a security company in Hollywwod, FL near where Jennifer had just driven from day before and visited every couple of weeks. He may have been a former security guard at that company. He may have stalked her at her residence and then returned to S. Florida. People keep asking why after she just got back from her trip, well, there's a reason.

    My thought is that part of the reason to wear that uniform and holster is to be able to carry an X-26 type stun gun and use it to disable a victim. Who knows what type of thought process these people have but they've been out there doing this stuff. I did the research on the holster and stun gun back in 2007 so what I found was information current to her disappearance.

    But the badge in image 3 in section below the face is a deputy sheriff / DoD shape badge which I was told by one security guard is not allowed to be used by security guards. And the uniform is also that of military regulation armed bike patrol. I don't have a picture of it but I read the regs, lost them, and couldn't find them again. But that was the only other organization I could place this uniform of an armed bike security guard.

    Not being able to identify the distinctive thigh and belt strapping for the holster bothers me the most though. It's the most distinctive item in the images and yet unidentified it has not helped us a bit to get a clue on this POI.

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    Just curious if anybody thinks the POI is short? I don't personally and that's a personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connected View Post
    Just curious if anybody thinks the POI is short? I don't personally and that's a personal opinion.
    My own personal opinion is that the POI is about 5'8" to 5'10" tall.....I also think that there is a possibility that the POI is female due to the shoes appearing too large for the feet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by marable View Post
    My own personal opinion is that the POI is about 5'8" to 5'10" tall.....I also think that there is a possibility that the POI is female due to the shoes appearing too large for the feet .
    There is strong lens distortion. Not only the feet but the legs are too large in proportion to the upper body. There is a break in the image of the body where horizontal fence rails go through and the upper body in between two rails appears smaller in proportion to the lower body all the way down including the foot. The visual largeness is not isolated to the shoe.

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    Was the color shading/distortion issue taken into account when comparing the uniform to that the uniform of the security company in Hollywood? I found it so odd that the security camera that captured the POI distorted the appearance of how light or dark clothing is. It could certainly impact the analysis here if it hasn't been included yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    So LE estimated his height, and he's short. JK is/was 5' 8 ", He probably had to adjust the driver's seat to drive her car. Did he adjust it back to fit with JK's height when he parked it ? is that what he did after he parked, in the 30 seconds that LE said he sat in the vehicle after he parked it ? If he did adjust the seat back, that shows how careful he was, as does the thoroughness he used when wiping the car's interior. I get the strangest feeling that the POI only dealt with the vehicle. As in, his "job" was to wipe the car down, and ditch it at HOTG. jmo
    Jennifer was 5'8", but a man 5'8" might have to move the seat forward. I've fitted some men and women to a bicycle frame and in doing that I learned that proportions of women and men are different. With a man and woman of the same height, the woman, generally, would have a shorter torso and arms and longer legs than a man. I've seen a couple who wanted to purchase road bike and the man was 1-2 inches taller, but he needed a 55cm frame and the woman needed a 57cm frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NapQueen View Post
    Was the color shading/distortion issue taken into account when comparing the uniform to that the uniform of the security company in Hollywood? I found it so odd that the security camera that captured the POI distorted the appearance of how light or dark clothing is. It could certainly impact the analysis here if it hasn't been included yet.
    The simple fact is is that it wasn't odd. An outdoor 24/7 surveillance camera uses infrared as "light" for night vision. Cheaper models either didn't have a light detector to flip the IR filter in and out of the picture or the flip could be malfunctioning. The result is that IR is seen as well as light during the day saturating the image. I posted side by sides showing what that does to dark clothes. The Orlando police saw this with their own uniforms, yet never made this clear to the public. They seemed not to understand what they were dealing with, telling the public "don't worry about the clothes". As a result of that incompetence, people have talked about nothing but painters and line chefs (i.e. white uniforms) from the beginning.

    What I was looking for was a match from head to toe:
    - bike helmet
    - shirt with LE insignia
    - thigh strapped holster
    - long pants
    - athletic socks
    - athletic biking shoes

    I searched night after night on bike patrol images for weeks and was coming to the conclusion it possibly didn't exist, or matched the military reg specs for bike patrol that I saw but couldn't find a picture of. Then I found that Hollywood, Florida security company ad and bam! there was the spitting image of the POI uniform in the ad.

    They had just lost their license a few months earlier but I didn't try contacting a company personally. I called in two tips to Orlando police, the holster and then later the face in image 3, and thought the Orlado police had enough to identify a possible security uniform and investigate from there, but never got a response that tips were acted upon. That was back in 2007 when action could have led to some results.

    I remain open to a substantive analysis that identifies the objects as something else but have never seen an alternate substantive analysis i.e., desciptive analysis of each portion of the POI image.

    One irony of this is that Wikipedia article states POI walked away and never looked back, and this is often repeated, but in fact I have the image of his face where he indeed, stopped and looked back at the car he had just parked. I'm glad I spent the time on this that law enforcement doesn't have time to do, but it has had no impact whatsoever in official statements and the case is in the same position as it was when I did this in 2007.

    Thanks for your comment.

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