Maybe I was sleeping when I read the interview with Terri Poff where she was cleaning her son's house after his arrest on 28 July. She had been working on cleaning it out for a week, when she found two guns there. She was sure that they were not there the last time she had visited. Her son was already arrested and the rest of the family had moved out. They had been put there sometime between 25-28 July. The only other person who had a key was Pamela Long (and Hugh Wiggins of course).
One was a Mossberg shot gun and one a Remington pellet gun. I have no idea if they were used in the Billings robbery. But I don't see why PLW and HW did not give these two guns to Denson, the guy they gave the rest of their guns to on 14 July.
Am I wrong or did PLW and HW try to set LPG up? Did anyone else miss this point???
Hugh's the one offering information and getting immunity. Seems like he's making her his scapegoat.
Thanks for pointing out that they all knew each other long before Pam knew any of them.
Since I have no sympathy for weak people, I feel Pam deserves what's happening to her. But I'll still be upset if Hugh comes out of this unscathed!
Let's not feel too sorry for PLW. Even if we say that she was manipulated (which I do not believe), she has other issues:
* Food Stamp fraud
* EPA issues
* And she is still a POI in an arson case in Alabama
When she started to run up dock bills on her yacht, instead of dealing with the bills, she signed over her yacht to LPG. Similarly she has signed over some of her properties to HW.
I do agree that she is, to a great extent, taking the rap for HW. But she has gotten herself involved in this and many other problems. She is pathetic but deserves pity from no one.
Martini, Think your reading the body language of the two coming off the yacht was very perceptive. He must be a very smooth operator. But I have a hard time seeing Pam as so meek, she seems to have some street smarts.
I do want to know more about this woman who allowed herself to get so deeply involved in this horrible crime. Did she allow herself to be set-up? Is her new hubbie a mastermind of a con artist?
As to Hugh, I do not see why he does not get an accessory after the fact charge also. He definitely was in control at the time, while Pam seemed to be falling apart. Did we ever find out what the two way radio was for, btw?
What ties does PLW have to the car dealers? Does she have a direct connection? Obviously, she collects classic cars. I saw where she seemed to be involved with the 5th Dimension deal but I thought that was Jr's bidding.
PLW met LPG through HW. Probably LPG met HW through JW. We know that JW has known LPG for 15 years and he knows HW even longer.
I want to get everyones opinion about some pictures that could or could not be Pam Long Wiggens - Is it okay to post these??
it seems to me the report of 'new guns' was an attempt for Pat's mom to shift some of the blame and focus off of her son, she has continually supported him when he has done wrong. IMO
But I agree - Terri seems to be in the "middle of the road" when it comes to implicating her son.
Long Wiggins short on money
Posted 1/29/2010 11:25 AM EST on pnj.com Prod
Pam Long Wiggins has a private attorney, but her mother is on the hook for the estimated $20,000 legal fee.
In documents in her court record, Long Wiggins said her mother, Doris Long, would be responsible for paying defense attorney Patrece Cashwell.
Long Wiggins said she has $120,000 in debts and will have to file for bankruptcy.
Damn, that just breask my heart. Poor Momma though. You never want to admit you raised a cold blooded killer.
Long Wiggins gets probation for bigamy
Woman still faces trial in Billings murder case
by Kris Wernowsky • firstname.lastname@example.org • July 1, 2010
"A judge on Wednesday sentenced Pamela Long Wiggins to two years' probation for her simultaneous marriage to two men.
Circuit Judge John Brown's sentence for Long Wiggins — the only woman charged with a crime in the 2009 deaths of Byrd and Melanie Billings — includes that she be evaluated and treated for substance abuse."
emphasis added by me
Don't have a clue who the individual listed as witness is. Does anyone else? Hearing on motions scheduled for 8-3.
Charges mount in Billings murders
snip** She's accused of providing a van used to transport a safe containing nearly $200,000 away from the Billingses' home and burying it beneath a pile of bricks in the backyard of her Gulf Breeze home.
The numerous previous reports stated that the safe which was carried away contained heirloom jewelry, family papers and medications only. Now here comes this report stating otherwise.
I am still waiting for others to be arrested.
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