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    Joyce Meyer Ministries And Christopher Coleman

    We know Christopher Coleman had been employed by Joyce Meyer Ministries in a security officer capacity. We also are aware the supposed threats that Christopher Coleman alledged he received were directed at his employment. Other issues regarding Joyce Meyer Ministries and CC have been surfacing in this case. CC's connection to JMM was severed shortly after the murders.
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    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    <snipped>

    Michael James King, the ministries' lawyer, argued unsuccessfully Monday against release of those documents without a protective order that would bar Mirabelli and Carey from making the information public.

    Keith Beyler, a law professor at Southern Illinois University Carbondale who teaches civil procedure, said protective orders are becoming less common because Illinois courts have ruled the public has an interest in what goes on in litigation, such as product liability cases, but they do occur in certain circumstances.

    "You typically see them issued to protect a company's financial information, the identities of victims of abuse or conceal trade secrets," Beyler said.

    The ministries' documents will be used by Carey and Mirabelli to investigate their wrongful death claim, Beyler said, by identifying parties with information so Carey and Mirabelli can take their depositions. Carey and Mirabelli can also request more documents or ask more questions.

    It can also be filed as evidence in the civil trial, said Jeffrey Parness, a law professor at Northern Illinois University.

    If the lawyers' investigation were to reveal Joyce Meyer Ministries liable in any way for the deaths of Sheri, Garett or Gavin Coleman, the lawyers could name the ministry as a defendant in the lawsuit, Beyler said.

    There is a six-month time limit for making such a claim -- it can be extended by another three months -- and the lawyers must show they have probable cause for the claim, Beyler said.


    http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...to-be-released

    So...do you guys think JMM is correct to assume they might be involved in a lawsuit themselves within the next 6 mos?

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    Documents Rec'd from Joyce Meyer Ministries

    This is where we can discuss the docs that were rec'd for the civil suit in July 2009.

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    Did CC work for the president? REALLY? I have to leave in a minute and will return to read the rest of the news reports that Foxterrier so kindly posted today!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOXTERRIER View Post
    Newly Released Documents Tell Us More About Accused Murderer Coleman

    http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-coleman-...,5252359.story
    Personnel records show he was on the road one-third of the time and that he'd met his Florida mistress in Houston, Texas and Hawaii. Carey will be requesting more Ministry records to determine when the church found this out.

    "We have documentation that they were aware at a certain point in time of Christopher Coleman's relationship with a woman in Tampa, when he was married to Sheri. What did Joyce Meyer's Ministry know, when did they know it, what did they do about it," says Carey.

    Carey said he's not yet seen any evidence that Coleman's mistress flew with Coleman on a ministry jet. He also says that he's only found a life insurance policy Coleman took out on himself, nothing showing he took one out on his wife before the murders. .topix_commentLink { font-weight: bold; margin: 0px; }
    Discussing newest news release. Wow!

    ETA: See actual documents here: http://www.fox2now.com/media/acrobat...7/48313767.pdf
    Last edited by Kimster; 07-29-2009 at 06:11 PM.

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    How weird. It says he used to work for Chester Mental Health. <gasp!> And then went to work for "Word of Life". JMM's parent company is called "Life in the Word". Coinky dink? Or was "Word of Life" owned by daddy???

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    I don't even know where to begin with the spiritual application. We may need a thread all its own on that one! One thing that stuck out was he said he learned about JMM through his MOM who attended meetings early on - rather than RC like we thought.

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    CC rec'd a $10,000 pay advance the day after the murders. For his attorney, I presume! WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY FROM THE CASH OUT REFI? eeeekkk...

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    Also, the termination letter was altered and initialed. I appears JMM was going to fire CC . Perhaps he asked them to allow him to quit instead? The paperwork appears to be pre-prepared for termination though!

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    Sooooooo, CC told LE that he only was having a text affair? A statement in his employee file says a different story....

    Oh Chris, you are truly a madman!!!

    That statement also explains why the termination papers were altered. Looks like Daddy Ron helped him with that one.


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    Kimster -
    Did you notice page 9, #4:
    "Termination of Agreement. This agreement shall not terminate, nor shall it be amended or assigned, except upon the prior written consent of Employer, executed by the Authorized Agent(s). The restrictions and obligations of this Agreement shall survive any expiration, termination, or cancellation of the employment relationship between Employee and Employer and shall continue to bind Employee, as well as Employee's successors, heirs, and assigns, forever."

    BBM - WOW! Felt like I was reading something biblical - like it should have said...."forever, and ever, Amen"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    How weird. It says he used to work for Chester Mental Health. <gasp!> And then went to work for "Word of Life". JMM's parent company is called "Life in the Word". Coinky dink? Or was "Word of Life" owned by daddy???
    I think CC just made a mistake in writing "Word of Life" instead of "Life in the Word" as the reason for leaving his last job. If you notice his reported last day with Chester Mental Health Center is 11-10-2000. The date he filled out this application is 10-25-2000 and he fills in the date he can start employment as 11-13-2000. So was it just wishing thinking on his part that he would get this job, or was he already promised it before he filled out the application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    I don't even know where to begin with the spiritual application. We may need a thread all its own on that one! One thing that stuck out was he said he learned about JMM through his MOM who attended meetings early on - rather than RC like we thought.
    Are churches not subject to employment discrimination laws? I know in the corporate world it is not legal to ask for age or marital status, but this application asks for date of birth, marital status, date of marriage, # of dependents. Plus the "spiritual criteria" form asks some pretty personal questions in born again date, baptism date and speaking in tongues date for the applicant and their spouse. Please forgive my ignorance but what is meant by "When did you begin speaking in tongues?" I know what I thought it meant and I didn't think it was something that most Christians could do. I always thought it was a special talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dear Prudence View Post
    I think CC just made a mistake in writing "Word of Life" instead of "Life in the Word" as the reason for leaving his last job. If you notice his reported last day with Chester Mental Health Center is 11-10-2000. The date he filled out this application is 10-25-2000 and he fills in the date he can start employment as 11-13-2000. So was it just wishing thinking on his part that he would get this job, or was he already promised it before he filled out the application.
    Okay, gotcha. I never do that! I always write N/A - still employed or some such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    Okay, gotcha. I never do that! I always write N/A - still employed or some such thing.
    Exactly, it is strange. That's why I'm wondering if he already knew he had the job. Not that it means much, I'm just curious.

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