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    I think any church or ministry has the moral obligation to care for its flock, especially is its members are seeking counsel. Doubly so if they are aware its members are openly (in their knowledge) doing immoral actions. They should have put a stop to the affair on their premises, instead, by allowing it, they condoned it. On ministry outings, the same moral values should apply.

    I think this is why the ministry is in hot water and not the woman in question. Instead, the ministers turned a blind eye, now three people are dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisyjane View Post
    If counseling is the issue, would a school counselor be sued if a student went on a shooting spree, or committed suicide? What about a substance abuse counselor, if the alcoholic or addict turned violent or suicidal?
    If they were aware the student was carrying a weapon and had been posting hate messages with threats, I would think so. The ministry knew of the paramour, obviously knew she was traveling with Chris, knew of the threats and knew Chris had been physically violent with Sheri. Seems as if there is a certain amount of culpability there to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMCG101 View Post
    Why doesn't the family also bring a wrongful death or civil suit against TL?? She was also a motive and a "friend" of Sheri's. Can anyone explain why they would not? I think she knew more than we think she did. JMO.
    100% agree! They wouldn't get money out of her - she doesn't have any. But the suit would require that she stand up and take responsibility. People need to see what can happen when they start cheating on their spouse. The cheater (or cheated on) can go off the deep end like Chris. The cheated-on (or cheater) can become a victim like Sheri and their children will be affected regardless of whether they are disposed of or not. If Chris would have chosen to not murder his children, they would have mourned the loss of their mom while their dad was charged with her murder. Their whole lives would have changed. As far as I'm concerned, Tara needs to be the poster child against adultery.

    I got the distinct impression she does not regret for one minute her affair with Chris. If she did, she would not have worn the promise ring and she would have answered her questions a slight bit differently. For instance - when asked if they'd had sex on one of the trips - her answer was that she didn't remember, but "probably". Someone who regretted the affair may have answered "Unfortunately, yes". JMO - who knows.....

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    IMO, the ministries is responsible for not thoroughly investigating the death threats or reporting them to the police. In court, a computer expert testified that there was 7 emails sent from the destroychriscoleman email address and they were sent directly to the Meyer's family ministry email accounts.

    How and why did they not have those emails investigated?? All the would of had to do is turn them over to the police and they would have been investigated and traced back to Chris. IMO, had those emails been traced when they were sent in November of 2008, Sheri, Garett, & Gavin would still be alive, therefore Joyce Meyer Ministries was negligent.

    I can't blame Sheri's family for suing them and I definitely know that I cannot judge them or their reasons for suing her. I would do the same exact thing...I would want to know everything there was to know what the last days, weeks, and months of my loved ones lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by who knew? View Post
    100% agree! They wouldn't get money out of her - she doesn't have any. But the suit would require that she stand up and take responsibility. People need to see what can happen when they start cheating on their spouse. The cheater (or cheated on) can go off the deep end like Chris. The cheated-on (or cheater) can become a victim like Sheri and their children will be affected regardless of whether they are disposed of or not. If Chris would have chosen to not murder his children, they would have mourned the loss of their mom while their dad was charged with her murder. Their whole lives would have changed. As far as I'm concerned, Tara needs to be the poster child against adultery.

    I got the distinct impression she does not regret for one minute her affair with Chris. If she did, she would not have worn the promise ring and she would have answered her questions a slight bit differently. For instance - when asked if they'd had sex on one of the trips - her answer was that she didn't remember, but "probably". Someone who regretted the affair may have answered "Unfortunately, yes". JMO - who knows.....
    BBM. ITA whoknew? TL may not have any money now, but if a jury found her culpable, a judgment could be rendered against any future monies she may earn. I still wonder whether she had any knowledge or inkling of what CC was planning? She sure didn't seem to show any remorse or shame for having an affair with a married man. MOO of course.

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    I found this editorial this morning and thought it was very well written and gives some insight into things the Atty's will use in the lawsuit...

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion...65635b9af.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella5 View Post
    I found this editorial this morning and thought it was very well written and gives some insight into things the Atty's will use in the lawsuit...

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion...65635b9af.html

    I love this line "marrying the dog track cocktail waitress of his dreams"
    well written argument--short of CC opening up about why he did what he did, we'll never know truly what he was thinking and the real "Why" and "how" he could pull off such a horrific crime and threw away his own life in the process....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMCG101 View Post
    Why doesn't the family also bring a wrongful death or civil suit against TL?? She was also a motive and a "friend" of Sheri's. Can anyone explain why they would not? I think she knew more than we think she did. JMO.
    If they do bring suit against Tara, can they get access to the texts and emails Tara sent to Chris? It could be quite revealing. I would very much like to know the extent to which she pushed Chris to take this path, if at all. With her other highly manipulative acts against Sheri and the kids, I will always wonder if she was the architect and he was the sociopathic dupe.

    I wonder how the Coleman family feels about her NOW, now that Chris may very well lose his life in general population. What a way to go. Not as kind as a needle and gurney for sure, but then, Chris didn't give his family a single shred of kindness either.

    In some states, a sex partner outside of marriage can be sued for alienation of affection and damages awarded. I wonder what the laws in MO are concerning this.

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    Lawyers for Coleman victims refile wrongful death suit against Joyce Meyer Ministries

    Lawyers for Coleman victims refile wrongful death suit against Joyce Meyer Ministries

    Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2012/10/18/236507...#storylink=cpy

    WATERLOO The lawyers for the family of murder victims Sheri, Garett and Gavin Coleman on Thursday refiled a wrongful death lawsuit against Joyce Meyer Ministries in Monroe County.

    A previous suit was dismissed by Associate Judge Richard Aguirre because he said the judge wanted more specificity under the law as to why the ministry was responsible.

    Christopher Coleman, who was convicted of the deaths of his wife and sons and is serving life without parole, worked as Joyce Meyer's personal bodyguard and head of security in May 2009, earning a six-figure salary.

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    Sheri Coleman's family appeals ruling in wrongful death suit

    Sheri Coleman's family appeals ruling in wrongful death suit

    Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2013/04/23/258921...#storylink=cpy


    An appeal has been filed to restore a dismissed wrongful death lawsuit against Joyce Meyer Ministries, which employed Christopher Coleman who was convicted of the strangulation of his wife and two sons.

    Family members of Sheri, Garett and Gavin Coleman filed their appeal on Monday after Associate Judge Richard Aguirre dismissed the suit in February.

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    for Sheri, Garrett, and Gavin, whose lives were taken from them 4 years ago yesterday by someone they loved and trusted.

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    Not sure how I feel about this, just posting the final disposition.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...9ee438d75.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallye818 View Post
    Not sure how I feel about this, just posting the final disposition.

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...9ee438d75.html
    Thanks for this. I am glad to hear it has been dismissed and I hope it is the end of this for good.

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    Anyone know if the great love of the adulterer/murderer's life, Tara, is still faithful to him? Visiting him?

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    I am a bit upset it was dismissed. I have always felt JM had some responsibility in this horrific crime. She made it a steadfast rule no one in her employ could be divorced and that is what they should have based their lawsuit on, imo. He could not divorce and keep his lofty job...mistress or no mistress. It does not absolve him even a tiny bit for what he did, but I believe his thinking process must have included the no divorce clause as a motive for her murder and the boys were secondary victims, imo.
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