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    Quote Originally Posted by gmh6419 View Post
    His father, who is the pastor of Grace Church in Chester, Ill., will finally "see the light" of the enormity of the evidence and convince Chris (aka, the Beast) to plead guilty and alocute in open court as to the circumstances of the slaughter. That is the only way he will avoid the death penalty. KTBA. My sign off of KTBA stands for KeepTheBeastAlive. It is a message to the jailers of the beast to watch over him carefully to prevent an early exit from this earth by this vile beast. KTBA
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    What makes you think that will happen? I'd love to see it happen that way, but that family is too "holier than thou" to admit any wrongdoing. JMO

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    Hallo Who Knew,

    Good to see you again! And gmh6419, welcome to Websleuths.

    I thought I would check in to see if anyone had heard anything...

    gmh6419, you could be right -- the jailer should keep an eye on CC, but it seems like if he were going to make an attempt on his life it might have happened before now. Would we have heard if he did?

    As for his being encouraged to plead guilty, well we haven't seen that yet -- so if it happened, at what point might that occur? I had hoped that he would plead before the whole world had to hear the details of that which he did in court, via pictures etc. Would an admission of his guilt occur after the trial began and horrors started being spoken and shown?

    All of this reminds me, have we heard anymore from Sheri's family's attornies? Has anyone ever heard whether CC's family turned in the material that they were asked for -- does anyone know? Also, there was a status hearing not long ago yes/no? Is anyone aware of what happened at that?

    I got particularly frustrated trying to find newspaper articles -- Analytical was good enough to post what he/she was finding. Wish we had a crew of people in the MO area that could keep us updated on things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrinkles View Post
    Hallo Who Knew,

    Good to see you again! And gmh6419, welcome to Websleuths.

    I thought I would check in to see if anyone had heard anything...

    gmh6419, you could be right -- the jailer should keep an eye on CC, but it seems like if he were going to make an attempt on his life it might have happened before now. Would we have heard if he did?

    As for his being encouraged to plead guilty, well we haven't seen that yet -- so if it happened, at what point might that occur? I had hoped that he would plead before the whole world had to hear the details of that which he did in court, via pictures etc. Would an admission of his guilt occur after the trial began and horrors started being spoken and shown?

    All of this reminds me, have we heard anymore from Sheri's family's attornies? Has anyone ever heard whether CC's family turned in the material that they were asked for -- does anyone know? Also, there was a status hearing not long ago yes/no? Is anyone aware of what happened at that?

    I got particularly frustrated trying to find newspaper articles -- Analytical was good enough to post what he/she was finding. Wish we had a crew of people in the MO area that could keep us updated on things.
    Here is a link the STLtoday.com website put together with many stories concerning this crime, as well as PDF documents. Coleman has been declared indigent and has been assigned new attorneys. The latest story on this link is of course, the one on top

    http://www.stltoday.com/coleman

    There was also a story in the Belleville News Democrat about Coleman's new attorney, that many saw as masterful legal maneuvering. It was about the Christian beliefs of Coleman's new attorney. Make of it what you will.

    http://www.bnd.com/news/crime/story/921340.html
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    so wide and deep that nothing but the width and depth
    of eternity can fill it up?"
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    Hello lajr56,

    Thanks for the links... I'm going to go have a read.

    So...CC gets free lawyers because he is indigent BUT the other two high dollar lawyers are staying onboard -- not paid by the state. Well, someone is paying them, yes?
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    Hiya lajr56,

    What a nice guy O'Gara is, eh? Maybe he can ask the authorities to exhume the ravaged bodies of Sheri and the children and have a look in their faces to see what he sees in them before he works on defending his client CC... Perhaps he can have a look at those faces every day before looking at CC's and heading to court to get "justice."

    He is quoted as saying:

    >>"You do it because you love being in front of a jury and getting justice."<<

    Narcissist? Wants to be in front of a crowd getting all of the attention, wants to be seen by people per just how clever he is at maneuvering and arguing (twisting things, bait and switch artist)?

    So...the guy likes attention, he likes the game of "I want to win." As far as "getting justice" -- see who else you can fool bubba -- for whom will he be seeking justice?

    He needs to read this:

    Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

    CC didn't just "offend" he "offed" 3 people, 2 of them little children -- his own children.

    >>O'Gara will get paid for representing Coleman from the Capital Litigation Trust Fund, earning $151 an hour, about $100 less than the rate for criminal defense lawyers.<<

    Well, since he is so interested in all of this, and since the state is hurting for money, and since he is so pious -- why not take minimum wage for his work, or do it gratis? He didn't hop on board before he was given the state litigation money offer, did he? How about he tell the state to use that which he will earn to house CC's butt so that the people of the state don't have to do so.
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    someone wrote in the comments of the BND article that they knew O'Gara as a good guy and that he tries to get his clients to plead guilty and save the taxpayers from going to trial. Cant see CC agreeing to plead guilty though, I think he will fight to the bitter end with the ridiculous SODDI theory.

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    someone wrote in the comments of the BND article that they knew O'Gara as a good guy and that he tries to get his clients to plead guilty and save the taxpayers from going to trial. Cant see CC agreeing to plead guilty though, I think he will fight to the bitter end with the ridiculous SODDI theory.
    I was just about to comment on that comment! LOL! If this man takes his faith seriously, then let's hope he won't lie for CC. That is what I'm praying.

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    He won't plead guilty--that's just asking to die sooner. Coleman wants to stay alive. He won't commit suicide either, I don't know what could lead anyone to such a conclusion. His best hope is to look out for number one and play this thing to the last roll of the dice. Not only that, but his meals, clothing, activities, and health care will all be provided for him indefinitely. And as long as he's still awaiting trial on a DP case, he's tucked away snug as a bug in a rug in physical segregation. Sweet life, if you have no regrets.

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    To say that the beast is enjoying a "sweet life" is ludicrous. Made to dress in ill fitting jail uniforms is a far cry from the carefully monogramed tailored shirts that he is used to wearing. Eating prison food every day is certainly not a "sweet life". Activities provided for him? What activities? This will all gradually begin to wear on his evil mind and even though he is incapable of remorse or regrets he will "appease" his parents and allucute in open court the details of his horrendous crime and say the "devil took him over" or some other such garbage and obtain LWOP. With this plea he gives up all appeal rights. He will be placed in a segregated prison population due to the fact that he is a child killer and therefore the general population will not have a "shot" at him. In my humble opinion his guilty plea will be entered shortly before the beginning of trial, after all the evidence is known to his defense attorneys. KTBA
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmh6419 View Post
    To say that the beast is enjoying a "sweet life" is ludicrous. Made to dress in ill fitting jail uniforms is a far cry from the carefully monogramed tailored shirts that he is used to wearing. Eating prison food every day is certainly not a "sweet life". Activities provided for him? What activities? This will all gradually begin to wear on his evil mind and even though he is incapable of remorse or regrets he will "appease" his parents and allucute in open court the details of his horrendous crime and say the "devil took him over" or some other such garbage and obtain LWOP. With this plea he gives up all appeal rights. He will be placed in a segregated prison population due to the fact that he is a child killer and therefore the general population will not have a "shot" at him. In my humble opinion his guilty plea will be entered shortly before the beginning of trial, after all the evidence is known to his defense attorneys. KTBA
    Do you think so? Do his parents now admit he is guilty? Have they quit defending their son? I certainly hope so.

    I doubt CC is enjoying his prison time - after all, he seemed to be all about the women, and I don't believe he has any of those available. I hope he lives the rest of his life regretting what he did to his family.


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    Enjoyment and contentment have many definitions. For one thing, he no longer needs to work or kiss anyone's patootie--not his dad's, not his wife's family, not Joyce or Dave.

    All his meals are provided. Good food can come with visitors or as gifts.

    His health will be monitored, free of charge. In fact, his health care will probably be better than that of any uninsured American who hasn't committed murder.

    He'll be physically safe. Won't be mugged, won't be the victim of a home invasion. Mario Weiss can't get to him, nor can any of Sheri's family. He's protected as much as possible from anyone who might wield a gun in the courtroom.

    He can think what he wants, read what he wants, correspond with whomever he wants. HE HAS NO RESPONSIBILITIES.

    Daddy Ron and Mom don't have unlimited access to him the way they did before. If he's sick of the whole religion thing, he can bar the door to Daddy Ron forever more. Couldn't do that before he was arrested!

    There are some people in this world who are happy as clams when holed up in a single room with their Find-A-Word puzzles and delivered meals.

    A happy life? Maybe not. But did Chris have a happy life before the murders anyway?

    In my humble opinion, Chris Coleman now has a life more suited to his character and personality. He won't suffer being locked up the way another person would. If he thought prison was a fate worse than the DP he wouldn't be playing the game to the last card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by who knew? View Post
    Do you think so? Do his parents now admit he is guilty? Have they quit defending their son? I certainly hope so.

    I doubt CC is enjoying his prison time - after all, he seemed to be all about the women, and I don't believe he has any of those available. I hope he lives the rest of his life regretting what he did to his family.
    I agree with you that he certainly isn't enjoying himself. If someone says he is as "snug as a bug in a rug" then if you consider spending all your time in an eight by ten foot cell where even your toilet is exposed, then I guess that is really "snug". LOL You can't read what you want, it has to be approved. All incoming and outgoing letters are read by jail personnell. Keep The Beast Alive (KTBA) means the jailers are to prevent suicide so this purtrid piece of slime deals with the full meaning of justice.
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    To those interested in the Beason, Ill case of 5 murders in a single house there is a news conference today at 2pm and there is also a report that LE has closed north road out of Beason today as they did on day of murders. Apparently they are back at the house. KTBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmh6419 View Post
    To those interested in the Beason, Ill case of 5 murders in a single house there is a news conference today at 2pm and there is also a report that LE has closed north road out of Beason today as they did on day of murders. Apparently they are back at the house. KTBA
    News conference as been moved to 5:30pm this evening. Speculation in town is another arrest has been made.

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    List of trials/sentencing

    9/26 SANDRA CANTU-ARRESTEE HUCKABY ??
    11/27 Terry Lynne McClintic for m/o TORI STAFFORD and
    10/16 Rafferty for m/o Tori -video court appearance
    10/9 Shannon Crowley murder of (m/o) Denita Smith
    10/12 CAYLEE Anthony -ARRESTEE CASEY ANTHONY -LOL DELAYED
    10/20 RC m/o Annie Le
    10/22 OJ
    10/6 NEWSOM-CHRISTIAN 2ND WAVE JURY SELECTION FOR ARRESTEE DAVIDSON[/QUOTE]-delayed 11/2 ?
    11/2 Curtis Vance m/o Anne Pressly -Ak
    2/8/10 St Massacre Murders
    Early 2010 M/O EMily Haddock
    Early 2010 Sherrod Nicholas Harrison
    Early 2010 Michael Graham Currie
    Upcoming Sentences
    10/16 Wash Dc Banita Jacks m/o her 4 daughters
    10/21 Jesse James m/o Nicholas Markowitz
    11/2 Fermin Brito Palacios m/o daughter Natalia Brito
    Van Roger Smith ?
    Alycia A Mesti-Allen ?
    Ran Jermer White ?

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