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    WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #9

    Please continue here. Thanks.

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    I traced the IP that AC sent the email from and it traces to sunnyvale, CA.

    Also found a woman online that had been receiving "inappropriate emails" at work from this IP, but at that point, it traced to Columbus, OH.
    This was 4-15-2008.

    Then in december last year, it traced to Ghana.

    Oh, and Nigeria.

    Anyone know how IP's work better than I do? All I know is that mine tends to bounce around, as far as showing my location, and never gets it right, but also never is outside my state, let alone the country.
    Last edited by not_my_kids; 07-25-2009 at 07:41 PM.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Originally posted by KageyKaren: SS, your spotting the guy in the black shirt was amazing! I had to hunt for him, looking thru the bleacher photos twice. lol It looks like he has a brightly colored orange and yellow jacket or overshirt on, but don't think it is a road workers vest, although it could be. Did you spot him in any other photos? Do any locals recognize him, assuming he is not our Jvk.
    Thanks. Actually, the man in the brightly colored vest and the one I spotted aren't the same person. The man eyeing Cyberswept is sitting on the other bleachers in the same spot.

    He is with a woman wearing a green hoodie. JVK's photos include an excellent shot of him from the side. He has on a black hoodie with black shorts sporting an orange stripe down both sides and tennis shoes. He is holding a small American Flag.

    To be honest, he looks rather like LE to me with the really short haircut. There is another shot of the couple standing together and her hair is rather short, too. (There is a man in a red hoodie with white letters standing with them.) Maybe they are both LE. LOL Who knows? I just know the one photo shows him paying close attention to Cyber while everyone else was concentrating on what was going on with the vigil.
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    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
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    The guy in the Black Shirt

    In adddition to thanking cyberswept and jvk for their great photography and the willingness/effort they put into posting the pictures here, I want to say:

    Scandi, the man in the black shirt is NOT the one with the orange-yellow vest on. (I think the one with the vest was probably one of the security people working the event, perhaps from the Parks/Recreation department.) The man SS was referring to is in cyberswept's shot titled "crowd 3.jpg" on his Photobucket album page. He is away off to the right of the photo (you have to move your horizontal bar to the right to even get him in the frame, as SS said) and I think he might be LE. He is definitely, as SS said, looking in the direction of the guy taking the picture -- and the only one doing so. And it's been posted that LE shows up where KK shows up.

    It would be neat if a local person could identify the guy...he's quite tall and looks like he's wearing a short-sleeved polo shirt.

    The "grandmotherly person" SS referred to is the woman seated in the bleachers whose white hair is very prominent in the photo.
    Last edited by Track292008; 07-25-2009 at 07:45 PM. Reason: ETA: Description of "grandmotherly person"

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    I traced the IP that AC sent the email from and it traces to sunnyvale, CA.

    Also found a woman online that had been receiving "inappropriate emails" at work from this IP, but at that point, it traced to Columbus, OH.
    This was 4-15-2008.

    Then in december last year, it traced to Ghana.

    Oh, and Nigeria.

    Anyone know how IP's work better than I do? All I know is that mine tends to bounce around, as far as showing my location, and never gets it right, but also never is outside my state, let alone the country.
    Hmmm...I don't know a thing about IP's, but it would explain that cryptic message if the guy didn't speak English very well (the whatever language to English translator sites online aren't very good at forming sentences or making much sense at times). Maybe he had hacked AC's account to leave the message and this is why AC was so upset because you had his addy?
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Hmmm...I don't know a thing about IP's, but it would explain that cryptic message if the guy didn't speak English very well (the whatever language to English translator sites online aren't very good at forming sentences or making much sense at times). Maybe he had hacked AC's account to leave the message and this is why AC was so upset because you had his addy?
    Possibly. I can't figure out why someone would hack another's email to send a message that had no purpose, unless they wanted to get the hackee in trouble. And I just don't see SO AC being worldly enough to have friends or enemies in Ghana.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    I traced the IP that AC sent the email from and it traces to sunnyvale, CA.

    Also found a woman online that had been receiving "inappropriate emails" at work from this IP, but at that point, it traced to Columbus, OH.
    This was 4-15-2008.

    Then in december last year, it traced to Ghana.

    Oh, and Nigeria.

    Anyone know how IP's work better than I do? All I know is that mine tends to bounce around, as far as showing my location, and never gets it right, but also never is outside my state, let alone the country.
    AOL IP's bounce around

    i know there is a way to get your IP to look as if you're in another country. i guess you can make it to look like you're in a different state too. check this out

    http://www.invisibleipmap.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    Possibly. I can't figure out why someone would hack another's email to send a message that had no purpose, unless they wanted to get the hackee in trouble. And I just don't see SO AC being worldly enough to have friends or enemies in Ghana.
    They don't personally know the people they hack. They can use their account to send out various things including viruses. Nigerian addresses are famous for sending out scams etc.

    Whether they realize it or not...they probably did get this guy into some trouble. LOL LE is going to be talking to him before long when they get all those tips.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
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    For comparison: Running my IP, I get 1 page of results on Google, when I run the one from AC's e-mails, I get 11 pages of results. I still have no idea what that means
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    does anybody know who the guy is in jvk's pics who is sitting on the bench?
    in the one pic, he's on the bench (looks like before the vigil started) with his back to jvk.
    then he's in another pic, looks like he's standing behind the bleachers, looking down.

    i haven't seen anyone mention it but i apologize if it has been already.
    Last edited by ~dragonfly~; 07-25-2009 at 08:40 PM.


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    OK, I think I've done everything I can with AC, it's all been turned in, we'll just wait and see and see if he mails me again.

    Hopefully seventeenseconds hears a few useful things tonight. That would be nice, I would love to have something concrete.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Thanks.

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    To be honest, he looks rather like LE to me with the really short haircut. There is another shot of the couple standing together and her hair is rather short, too. (There is a man in a red hoodie with white letters standing with them.) Maybe they are both LE.
    SS -- Please help! I can't locate the photo of the black-shirt guy with a woman in a green hoodie, both of them talking to a man with a red shirt with white letters on it. Actually, I can't even find a photo of him with the woman with the green hoodie at all. Who took those shots....jvk or cyberswept? Are the shots on Photobucket or back in a recent thread?

    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    For comparison: Running my IP, I get 1 page of results on Google, when I run the one from AC's e-mails, I get 11 pages of results. I still have no idea what that means
    Well let's say he's been using that address to sign up on some not so reputable web sites. They capture his IP address along with his email (easy to do). Then this info gets passed along to be used for spoofing. That is how he might have come to appear in the guestbook and result on so many google pages. It's very possible he is unaware of this.

    For your own safety, every once in a while you should input your email address, name, etc. into the search engine to help ensure your personal information is not out there too. Never use web sites to store your passwords. Never store passwords on your computer. If you do your taxes on a computer, save records directly to a thumb or flash drive you can pull off. Do not save records directly to the computer. A quick and dirty way to delete files that are harder to recover is to move them... not copy, but move them to a flash drive then delete from there. They don't go into the recycle bin and this defeats a lot of file recovery programs because they are looking for deleted files.
    When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
    It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Track292008 View Post
    SS -- Please help! I can't locate the photo of the black-shirt guy with a woman in a green hoodie, both of them talking to a man with a red shirt with white letters on it. Actually, I can't even find a photo of him with the woman with the green hoodie at all. Who took those shots....jvk or cyberswept? Are the shots on Photobucket or back in a recent thread?

    TIA
    here's one but i don't know if they are talking to the person in the red sweatshirt w/white letters?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dragonfly~ View Post
    does anybody know who the guy is in jvk's pics who is sitting on the bench?
    in the one pic, he's on the bench (looks like before the vigil started) with his back to jvk.
    then he's in another pic, looks like he's standing behind the bleachers, looking down.

    i haven't seen anyone mention it but i apologize if it has been already.
    I don't know him, sorry.
    When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
    It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.
    Arthur Conan Doyle


    Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
    Aldous Huxley

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