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    Quote Originally Posted by SideKick View Post
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    Yes, I know I've read up on Cayce vs Brody, there definitely similarities. Theology thoughts, reincarnation, karma etc. Brody was somewhat well read it seems to me about these things. Wonder if he read alot when he was younger or actually belonged to a society similar to a Cayce following?

    And yes, appearance wise, very similar!
    I can't believe you guys brought this up! I told my sister when I first read Searching for Anna, that GB's photo looked like a book jacket I have seen somewhere before. I even mention something alone these lines to Annasmom. My dad introduced me to Cayce, and I asked my sister what other books or people did he read about, because GB looks so familar. I wonder if I am thinking of Cayce's book jacket? IDK. I can tell you this, GB is not German decent. I think he is Italian or Jewish. My family is Romanian, Austrian, and Irish. His nose is not any of those. His features are more Italian if you ask me.

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    I can't believe you guys brought this up! I told my sister when I first read Searching for Anna, that GB's photo looked like a book jacket I have seen somewhere before. I even mention something alone these lines to Annasmom. My dad introduced me to Cayce, and I asked my sister what other books or people did he read about, because GB looks so familar. I wonder if I am thinking of Cayce's book jacket? IDK. I can tell you this, GB is not German decent. I think he is Italian or Jewish. My family is Romanian, Austrian, and Irish. His nose is not any of those. His features are more Italian if you ask me.
    Yes indeed! And I have to agree that a person's nose does sometimes resemble the country they came from. How true!

    I found this today looking for newspapers in the Allentown/Bucks County so I could post a photo of GB. This is a short list of some BRODY obits from The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown PA.

    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mca...ffiliateid=494

    Small chance he was a relative of one of them but thought I would post these at least for reference on Brody's in the hood!

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    Hi,
    maybe someone remember my post abt George Broda of italian origin
    born the 10 Aug 1900 in Italy, son of Carlo Broda, and living in Merced, Merced, California; but my search ended abt this man, because by death record:
    Merced County, California Deaths, 1852-1999 about George Broda
    Given Name: George
    Surname: Broda
    Book #: 5
    Page: 442
    Date Range: 1 May 1918
    seeming that he died in 1918...

    instead, this morning, casually, I found the 1920 census.... of George Broda in Merced, Merced, CA;
    no doubt: it is the same person, only that in 1920 census he declared that was born in California but from italian parents:
    1920 United States Federal Census
    about George Broda
    Name: George Broda
    Home in 1920: Merced, Merced, California
    Age: 19
    Estimated birth year: abt 1901

    Birthplace: California
    Relation to Head of House: Roomer
    Marital Status: Single
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Image: 661
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    William F Rowell 43
    Minnie E Rowell 34
    Alice A Rowell 11
    Aurora Rowell 9
    Virginia Rowell 4
    George Broda 19
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...eorgebroda.jpg

    Now my dilemma is:
    as it is possible that this man seeming decesead in 1918 by death records but he is living in 1920???
    Some suggestion?

    All the best,
    raf
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    I found a WWI draft card registration for this George Broda--his date of birth is listed as Aug 10, 1900. Eye color is listed as blue and hair as brown.

    His address is listed as 325 16th Street Merced. It does appear that there is a middle name, but it is either too faint or was erased for some reason, because it is illegible.

    His father is listed as Carlos Broda and his mother (?) is listed as Beatrice Randolph or Radcliff of Merced.

    His occupation is listed as cannery labor with Sunlit (?) Fruit Co.

    I wish I could see a legible draft registation form because there is so much that I cannot read. It does appear that he is checked as being an alien (from Italy) not a US Citizen. It appears the draft card was stamped Sept 12, 19-- I just cannot read the last two numbers. The info from ancestry states that it is a 1917-1918 draft card.

    If anyone has ancestry, here is the link:
    http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/Def...=&pid=20522187

    I don't know if this is neither here nor there, but there is also an Ellen G. Broda listed as being born in San Francisco Mar 4, 1967 Probably means nothing but interesting coincidence.
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

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    Hi, the George Broda WWI draft registration card picture is in this my post:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...da#post4779197
    ( picture: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/549...eorgebroda.jpg)
    and in some my other message I explained that the search abt this man was abandoned because resulting died in 1918... Now I found the 1920 census and I am sure that is the same person that also died in 1918 ???)......

    abt Carlo Broda: he was married, but not with Beatrice, because Carlo Broda was boarder in 1920 census without wife that maybe remained in Italy:
    1920 United States Federal Census
    about Carlo Broda
    Name: Carlo Broda
    Home in 1920: Township 5, Merced, California
    Age: 47
    Estimated birth year: abt 1873
    Birthplace: Italy
    Relation to Head of House: Boarder
    Marital Status: Married
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Year of Immigration: 1915
    Able to read: No
    Able to Write: No
    Image: 920
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    Joe L Fergundes 29
    Frank L Fergundes 19
    John S Corea 26
    Bernardino Moreira 35
    Manuel Rodrigues 37
    Robert F Belcher 24
    J F Rosa 19
    Antone Augusta 24
    Antone F Cardosa 19
    Henry Wilson 50
    Carlo Broda 47
    John F Branco 24
    so maybe Beatrice was some friend....
    also George Broda was born in Italy so the mother was italian also....
    the Carlo Broda arrival:


    First Name: Carlo
    Last Name: Broda
    Ethnicity: Italian, North
    Last Place of Residence: Mancalvo*, Italy
    Date of Arrival: Feb 26, 1914
    Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: M Marital Status: M
    Ship of Travel: Olympic
    Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
    Manifest Line Number: 0010
    * Moncalvo
    in travel with Giuseppe Broda ( maybe George Broda was really Giuseppe Broda) age 15, wife/mother Angela Broda in Moncalvo, both joining at friend Giulio Cassina, 1126 Clay st San Francisco..

    what sound strange for me is the George Broda death record....
    but George Broda was living in 1920:
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...eorgebroda.jpg
    raf
    Last edited by raf; 04-28-2010 at 05:22 AM.

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    Broda is not a very common Italian name. If you look for "Broda" in the Italian white pages, there are only 69 results! And several of these are from Moncalvo.

    http://www.paginebianche.it/execute....a&qsn=&dv=&ind=

    ETA - Of these 69 listings - 11 are company names and 58 are people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raf View Post
    Hi,
    maybe someone remember my post abt George Broda of italian origin
    born the 10 Aug 1900 in Italy, son of Carlo Broda, and living in Merced, Merced, California; but my search ended abt this man, because by death record:
    Merced County, California Deaths, 1852-1999 about George Broda
    Given Name: George
    Surname: Broda
    Book #: 5
    Page: 442
    Date Range: 1 May 1918
    seeming that he died in 1918...

    instead, this morning, casually, I found the 1920 census.... of George Broda in Merced, Merced, CA;
    no doubt: it is the same person, only that in 1920 census he declared that was born in California but from italian parents:
    1920 United States Federal Census
    about George Broda
    Name: George Broda
    Home in 1920: Merced, Merced, California
    Age: 19
    Estimated birth year: abt 1901

    Birthplace: California
    Relation to Head of House: Roomer
    Marital Status: Single
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Image: 661
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    William F Rowell 43
    Minnie E Rowell 34
    Alice A Rowell 11
    Aurora Rowell 9
    Virginia Rowell 4
    George Broda 19
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...eorgebroda.jpg

    Now my dilemma is:
    as it is possible that this man seeming decesead in 1918 by death records but he is living in 1920???
    Some suggestion?

    All the best,
    raf
    Raf,

    I think you are on to something here. I emailed Annasmom that GB looked Italian to me because I was married to a man who had, (don't laugh) the same nose. About a day before I emailed her, I was sitting here and just thought "wonder if he is on FB" no reason why, it just popped into my head, he is. I also told her that his mother changed the way they spelled the name, because she didn't like it. It was "Chiodo", she changed it (not legally) to Chioda. They just (all of them) started to write it and spell it that way. All the kids when they went to school, everyone in his family. I found this out when they had a family reunion. The name was spelled with an "O" on the place card at the park. I thought they made a mistake. So this is IMO an important lead. I don't know where it will go, but I am glad we are going down this road....

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    Hi Bern,
    when I found George Broda(I suppose that him italian name was Giuseppe Broda) it was one of better option abt who was our GB... but, when I found the death record in 1918, I stopped... today I found it again, living in 1920 census.. it declared that was born in California and that the him language was "italian"; the word "italian" is crossed.. for a italian descent born in USA it is impossible no speak english... I am sure that he is the same George Broda on WWI draft reg. card; now I cannot explain why it are a death record in 1918 abt George Broda; the surname is of East Europe origin... ex Yogoslavia, Austria, Poland, Hungary etc... In Italy the little number of Broda I know not where they came from, surely I believe is not a italian surname to 100%, almost in the past time....
    but many peoples came in Italy and many italian came in other countries, so it is possible that the Broda branche in Italy, was in origin from other Europe country... just my idea...
    I cannot say if our GB had a italian face; I can say that our GB had a banal face...
    I cannot find George Broda in 1930 census... the finding could be helpful, but this morning I searched and no found.. seeming... desappeared... he and the Carlo, the father...
    all the best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    Broda is not a very common Italian name. If you look for "Broda" in the Italian white pages, there are only 69 results! And several of these are from Moncalvo.

    http://www.paginebianche.it/execute....a&qsn=&dv=&ind=

    ETA - Of these 69 listings - 11 are company names and 58 are people.
    I see a listing for an Anna Broda, in Moncalvo, but that would be way too easy, wouldn't it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raf View Post
    Hi,
    maybe someone remember my post abt George Broda of italian origin
    born the 10 Aug 1900 in Italy, son of Carlo Broda, and living in Merced, Merced, California; but my search ended abt this man, because by death record:
    Merced County, California Deaths, 1852-1999 about George Broda
    Given Name: George
    Surname: Broda
    Book #: 5
    Page: 442
    Date Range: 1 May 1918
    seeming that he died in 1918...

    instead, this morning, casually, I found the 1920 census.... of George Broda in Merced, Merced, CA;
    no doubt: it is the same person, only that in 1920 census he declared that was born in California but from italian parents:
    1920 United States Federal Census
    about George Broda
    Name: George Broda
    Home in 1920: Merced, Merced, California
    Age: 19
    Estimated birth year: abt 1901

    Birthplace: California
    Relation to Head of House: Roomer
    Marital Status: Single
    Race: White
    Sex: Male
    Image: 661
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    William F Rowell 43
    Minnie E Rowell 34
    Alice A Rowell 11
    Aurora Rowell 9
    Virginia Rowell 4
    George Broda 19
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...eorgebroda.jpg

    Now my dilemma is:
    as it is possible that this man seeming decesead in 1918 by death records but he is living in 1920???
    Some suggestion?

    All the best,
    raf
    This is for anyone, If GB is this George Broda is there a way to see if there is a SS# for anyone living in Merced CA around that time? GB erased his past, he had no birth date, SSN, no family history, but he had to have something very early on, or he couldn't work. At some point he disappeared off the radar. So how can we see it these are one in the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julessleuther View Post
    I found a WWI draft card registration for this George Broda--his date of birth is listed as Aug 10, 1900. Eye color is listed as blue and hair as brown.

    His address is listed as 325 16th Street Merced. It does appear that there is a middle name, but it is either too faint or was erased for some reason, because it is illegible.

    His father is listed as Carlos Broda and his mother (?) is listed as Beatrice Randolph or Radcliff of Merced.

    His occupation is listed as cannery labor with Sunlit (?) Fruit Co.

    I wish I could see a legible draft registation form because there is so much that I cannot read. It does appear that he is checked as being an alien (from Italy) not a US Citizen. It appears the draft card was stamped Sept 12, 19-- I just cannot read the last two numbers. The info from ancestry states that it is a 1917-1918 draft card.

    If anyone has ancestry, here is the link:
    http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/Def...=&pid=20522187

    I don't know if this is neither here nor there, but there is also an Ellen G. Broda listed as being born in San Francisco Mar 4, 1967 Probably means nothing but interesting coincidence.
    Looks like you and Raf have the same person..... So if there is a draft card, wouldn't there be a SSN somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    I see a listing for an Anna Broda, in Moncalvo, but that would be way too easy, wouldn't it!

    Does it say how old she is? If not, is there a way to find out?

    Can someone see if this Anna Broda might be on facebook in Italy? I'm not sure how the different countries do this, but I know FB is available in Italy, or is it just like ours here in the states?
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    Someone refresh my memory, how was it we determined the GBroda was deceased? Did we see a copy of a death cert? Maybe the death info is an error?

    I'm confused on how we arrived he was deceased.
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    His father is listed as Carlos Broda and his mother (?) is listed as Beatrice Randolph or Radcliff of Merced.

    His occupation is listed as cannery labor with Sunlit (?) Fruit Co.

    ~

    While googling, I find a Sunlit Fruit Co in Berkeley CA. Merced is not near Berkeley at all. This makes me confused.

    http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...ntable-details

    Photo of company off in distance... I have attached the photo found online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Someone refresh my memory, how was it we determined the GBroda was deceased? Did we see a copy of a death cert? Maybe the death info is an error?

    I'm confused on how we arrived he was deceased.
    Hi, here the record abt the death:
    Merced County, California Deaths, 1852-1999 about George Broda
    Given Name: George
    Surname: Broda
    Book #: 5
    Page: 442
    Date Range: 1 May 1918


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    Quote Originally Posted by raf View Post
    Hi, here the record abt the death:
    Merced County, California Deaths, 1852-1999 about George Broda
    Given Name: George
    Surname: Broda
    Book #: 5
    Page: 442
    Date Range: 1 May 1918

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    Raf - What is the source of that record? Did you find it on Ancestry.com??? Can you link it for us?

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    Is there a facebook page for George Brody??? I haven't been able to find one but it might be helpful to have one to see if anyone recognizes him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    Raf - What is the source of that record? Did you find it on Ancestry.com??? Can you link it for us?
    yes by Ancestry.com: California Deaths, 1852-1999

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    Is there a facebook page for George Brody??? I haven't been able to find one but it might be helpful to have one to see if anyone recognizes him.

    I have not seen a facebook, but there is a myspace page for GB.
    http://www.myspace.com/georgebrody



    Perhaps someone familiar with FB would like to start a page for him. I'm not too FB savy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SideKick View Post
    His father is listed as Carlos Broda and his mother (?) is listed as Beatrice Randolph or Radcliff of Merced.

    His occupation is listed as cannery labor with Sunlit (?) Fruit Co.

    ~

    While googling, I find a Sunlit Fruit Co in Berkeley CA. Merced is not near Berkeley at all. This makes me confused.

    http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...ntable-details

    Photo of company off in distance... I have attached the photo found online.

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    Merced is in the Central Valley and might be where the fruit was grown. The Berkeley company is probably the distributor.

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    FWIW, when I looked on ancestry, there were a number of George Broda's listed in the early 1900's. One in particular was from Luzerne County, PA. (Near Wilkes-Barre) I believe he was of Yugoslavian descent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    Broda is not a very common Italian name. If you look for "Broda" in the Italian white pages, there are only 69 results! And several of these are from Moncalvo.

    http://www.paginebianche.it/execute....a&qsn=&dv=&ind=

    ETA - Of these 69 listings - 11 are company names and 58 are people.
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

    Deanna Merryfield:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58438

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    There is also a Dr from Poland named Anna Broda.


    quote=Bern;5123328]I see a listing for an Anna Broda, in Moncalvo, but that would be way too easy, wouldn't it![/quote]
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

    Deanna Merryfield:
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    Not necessarily. Social Security did not kick in until the 1930's under FDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Looks like you and Raf have the same person..... So if there is a draft card, wouldn't there be a SSN somewhere?
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

    Deanna Merryfield:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58438

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    Good question Cubby. I could not find a death notice for him at all on ancestry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Someone refresh my memory, how was it we determined the GBroda was deceased? Did we see a copy of a death cert? Maybe the death info is an error?

    I'm confused on how we arrived he was deceased.
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

    Deanna Merryfield:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58438

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    There are quite a few Anna Broda's on Facebook. Most do not have any photos listed, and they all seem to have foreign schools that they attended. There are also quite a few Anna Brody's.
    I am looking for a few good sleuthers to help Missie find her sister--please, please, please bring your fresh ideas!!

    Deanna Merryfield:
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