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    2009.07.30 Document Release: 2008.10.12 Statement -Page 7313

    I find the date of this statement and the location of the offense very disturbing. It appears to me that on October 12, 2008 the statement lists the offense of Murder being committed on July 15th, 2008 at Suburban Dr. E. of Hopespring Dr......................how could this be true if they didn't know Caylee was on Suburban until Dec. 11, 2008?

    The Mickeymouse dress wasn't found on Suburban on this date, but the statement is dated October 12, 2008.

    Can anyone explain to me how the Suburban DR. could have been listed as the address of the offense clear back in October? TIA
    Last edited by Patty G; 08-05-2009 at 12:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    I find the date of this statement and the location of the offense very disturbing. It appears to me that on October 12, 2008 the statement lists the offense of Murder being committed on July 15th, 2008 at Suburban Dr. E. of Hopespring Dr......................how could this be true if they didn't know Caylee was on Suburban until Dec. 11, 2008?

    The Mickeymouse dress wasn't found on Suburban on this date, but the statement is dated October 12, 2008.

    Can anyone explain to me how the Suburban DR. could have been listed as the address of the offense clear back in October? TIA
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0730/20224674.pdf

    In the statement dated October 12, 2008, this statement was written after the fact and indicates when the dress was found Setpember 27, 2008.

    The date of offense is dated as July 15, 2008 as this is when Caylee was actually reported missing.

    The officer that wrote this statement is out of Tampa Police Department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0730/20224674.pdf

    In the statement dated October 12, 2008, this statement was written after the fact and indicates when the dress was found Setpember 27, 2008.

    The date of offense is dated as July 15, 2008 as this is when Caylee was actually reported missing.

    The officer that wrote this statement is out of Tampa Police Department.
    This statement was written after WHAT fact? After Caylee was found on Suburban? Why would they put the location of the offense on Suburban? It is dated October 12, 2008, describing something they found on Sept. 27th......I don't see how Suburban was relevant on either of those two dates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    I find the date of this statement and the location of the offense very disturbing. It appears to me that on October 12, 2008 the statement lists the offense of Murder being committed on July 15th, 2008 at Suburban Dr. E. of Hopespring Dr......................how could this be true if they didn't know Caylee was on Suburban until Dec. 11, 2008?

    The Mickeymouse dress wasn't found on Suburban on this date, but the statement is dated October 12, 2008.

    Can anyone explain to me how the Suburban DR. could have been listed as the address of the offense clear back in October? TIA
    What date was this statement written? When was the first time any evidence was found on Suburban? Why is the location of the offense listed as Suburban if this report was written in October 2008?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    This statement was written after WHAT fact? After Caylee was found on Suburban? Why would they put the location of the offense on Suburban? It is dated October 12, 2008, describing something they found on Sept. 27th......I don't see how Suburban was relevant on either of those two dates!
    IMO, the mentioning of Surburban Drive East of Hopespring Drive is just a reference point based on a cross street where the Anthony's live.

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    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20226973/detail.html

    Why does it say on page one here that on July 15, September 27, or October 12......that the location of the offense of murder was located on Suburban? Caylee wasn't found until December!

    Makes me think Caylee was found prior to December from what this statement looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20226973/detail.html

    Why does it say on page one here that on July 15, September 27, or October 12......that the location of the offense of murder was located on Suburban? Caylee wasn't found until December!

    Makes me think Caylee was found prior to December from what this statement looks like.
    As I reviewed other "statements" some "date of offense" is the date of the actual tip, search etc. In some "statements, there is no "date of offense".

    In this particular statement, they should have put down the "date of offense" as September 27, 2008 based on the dress found and the "Location of Offense" as Orange Avenue and Nela.

    The areas of "date of offense" and Location of Offense" was filled in by John Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    As I reviewed other "statements" some "date of offense" is the date of the actual tip, search etc. In some "statements, there is no "date of offense".

    In this particular statement, they should have put down the "date of offense" as September 27, 2008 based on the dress found and the "Location of Offense" as Orange Avenue and Nela.

    The areas of "date of offense" and Location of Offense" was filled in by John Allen.
    On what day did John Allen "fill in" this misinformation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    On what day did John Allen "fill in" this misinformation?
    John Allen signed the statement on 10/12/08, two days before they arrested Casey for Murder.

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    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20226973/detail.html

    The statement is page one, and is signed and dated October 12th, which is almost two months before Caylee was found on Suburban Dr. East of Hope Spring.....UNLESS this information was altered after Caylee's body was found in December of 2008, it is very suspicious that either Det. Allen, or the Witness Kevin R. would have known that address. I hope the defense doesn't use this to question the integrity of Orange County, or hypothesize that Kevin R. had anything to do with "placing" Caylee's body there after that statement was written to match with the offense location listed, and I SURE hope that neither Kevin R. or John A. knew where Caylee was Waaaaay back in October and just let her stay there. KWIM


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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20226973/detail.html

    The statement is page one, and is signed and dated October 12th, which is almost two months before Caylee was found on Suburban Dr. East of Hope Spring.....UNLESS this information was altered after Caylee's body was found in December of 2008, it is very suspicious that either Det. Allen, or the Witness Kevin R. would have known that address. I hope the defense doesn't use this to question the integrity of Orange County, or hypothesize that Kevin R. had anything to do with "placing" Caylee's body there after that statement was written to match with the offense location listed, and I SURE hope that neither Kevin R. or John A. knew where Caylee was Waaaaay back in October and just let her stay there. KWIM
    I know what you mean tweety. I do, however, think that the defense would have a real far stretch to try and portray this as anything sinister.

    It is likely that the offense location was filled in by John A. when they finally did know a location.

    It is unlikely that one of the investigating officers killed Caylee and disposed of her body. Then ends up investigating it after it is reported to the police.

    But, what do I know? Maybe the defense will see it as something to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20226973/detail.html

    The statement is page one, and is signed and dated October 12th, which is almost two months before Caylee was found on Suburban Dr. East of Hope Spring.....UNLESS this information was altered after Caylee's body was found in December of 2008, it is very suspicious that either Det. Allen, or the Witness Kevin R. would have known that address. I hope the defense doesn't use this to question the integrity of Orange County, or hypothesize that Kevin R. had anything to do with "placing" Caylee's body there after that statement was written to match with the offense location listed, and I SURE hope that neither Kevin R. or John A. knew where Caylee was Waaaaay back in October and just let her stay there. KWIM
    On the link it is page one and on the actual document it is page 7313.

    It is very possible that the information regarding "date of offense" and "location of offense" was left blank and then filled in once Caylee was found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    IMO, the mentioning of Surburban Drive East of Hopespring Drive is just a reference point based on a cross street where the Anthony's live.
    "East" of Hopespring drive is a little too specific to be a reference point to anything other than the location of Caylee's remains, isn't it?

    What I'm think is that if I were to reference where Casey lives and where Caylee was last seen, I'd say, Hopespring & Suburban if that is the nearest cross street.

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    I have always wondered where the defense was getting this idea that the body wasn't there on so and so date, therefore someone else placed it there. I kept saying to myself, what are they trying to say, what information do they have that makes them think someone else was dumping her body there way after the fact, for WHAT purpose......

    The defense is desperate, and I have no doubt they will use whatever they can to make the investigation seem incomplete, inaccurate, or prejudiced to the jury.

    IMO, the most likely reason this statement appears as it does is because sometime after Caylee was discovered on Suburban, the fields at the top were completed by Det. Allen, while dotting i's and crossing t's, with the wealth of information collected in this case. I am in no way trying to discredit Mr. Allen, I completely understand the ways things get left undone, as the priorities were to find a missing Caylee at the time! NOW, the priority is to solidify a case against her murderer.
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    This thread is only for discussion regarding the 10/12/08 statement.

    For questions outside the title of the thread should be asked in the [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86705"]LIST Questions and Answers #8 LIST ONLY NO DISCUSSION - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    Lots of information here:
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