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    CA - Montrose, Fem Skeletal 581UFCA, 15-25, off Angeles Crest Hwy, Jul'71

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/581ufca.html


    Unidentified Female



    • The victim was discovered on July 11, 1971 in Montrose, Los Angeles County, California
    • Estimated Date of Death: approximately seven months
    • State of Remains: Skeletal

    Vital Statistics



    • Estimated age: 15 - 25 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5' 8"; 130 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Race undetermined. Kinky black/brown/reddish hair. Long tapered fingers; long feet; manicured fingernails.
    • Clothing: Orange/yellow skirt, 27" at waist, 34" at hip, 22" in length; full 34" white slip, lace trim; white turtle neck knit sweater, 14 1/2" shoulder to shoulder; white 34 A bra, Loveable brand; white socks, possible thermal or athletic.
    • Jewelry: 1957 Bulova ladies watch. Yellow metal case with yellow metal expansion band with broken link. Serial number T 556641.
    • Fingerprints: Not Available
    • Dentals: Available. Full set of teeth; slight gap in top front teeth. She had Torus palatinus that is a bony growth on the palate

    Case History
    The Victim was located approximately fifty feet down an embankment from the north side Angeles Crest Highway 1/4 mile West of Red Box Canyon Ranger Station, in Montrose, California on July 11, 1971.

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    kpdx is offline Jane Doe was discovered Aug. 14, 1977 outside of Everett WA
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    Namus has totally diff. info on her, most troublesome the age range.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3002

    wonder which was updated more recently?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/275dfca.html
    matches on height and weight and her photos show a slight gap in her front teeth. timeline also right on.

    i wonder if she has been ruled out?

    the clothes are different and it is a considerable mileage difference between two locations....
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    I thought about her immediately as well, however she's a blonde, UID had kinky red/brown/black hair. Of course hair dye is a possibility, but that is usually noticeable and noted in descriptives.



    Quote Originally Posted by kpdx View Post
    Namus has totally diff. info on her, most troublesome the age range.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/3002

    wonder which was updated more recently?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/275dfca.html
    matches on height and weight and her photos show a slight gap in her front teeth. timeline also right on.

    i wonder if she has been ruled out?

    the clothes are different and it is a considerable mileage difference between two locations....
    Last edited by OkieGranny; 06-04-2016 at 07:19 PM. Reason: broken link

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    I wonder if Eastin was ever ruled out, most of the stats match up.

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    I can't tell from the size of the photos on Doe Network, but are her clothes cut up? Especially her skirt.

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    More likely just deteriorated from being exposed to the weather. But I did wonder about the skirt since it says 22" skirt but 34" slip, which seems too long for that skirt.
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    That's what I would normally assume, but that long, vertical slice in the skirt looks way too straight to be a tear or from weather. It looks like either a deliberate cut, or a zipper that's open, but the photo is too small to tell. It's probably the zipper, but I was hoping someone might be able to see better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    More likely just deteriorated from being exposed to the weather. But I did wonder about the skirt since it says 22" skirt but 34" slip, which seems too long for that skirt.
    Full slips are sized by bust measurement, so she would've had a 34" bust and 22" waist. Small by modern standards but not out of the ordinary back then.

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    I think maybe it's where the seam fell apart because the thread had deteriorated?

    Or possibly they had to slice it to remove it during the autopsy.

    I think sidneyla might be right about the slip, but the skirt is definitely the length because they record waist, hip, and length: skirt, 27" at waist, 34" at hip, 22" in length http://doenetwork.org/cases/581ufca.html
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    I think the skirt is unzipped.

    Would multicolored hair have been in style at the time this doe was alive? I notice she has black/brown/red hair and I wonder if that's dye/highlights or sun fading. If sun fading, could give clues to her race.


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    The short answer is yes. Streaking, highlighting, and frosting were very popular. And there was a punk scene, too, with the same sorts of wild colored hair and styles that you see today. Bleaching was very popular.

    Afros, either natural or permed, were starting to come into style by then. Long hair was becoming more popular but there were a lot of shorter styles as well.

    Her outfit would have looked kind of like the one French singer Francoise Hardy is wearing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    I think maybe it's where the seam fell apart because the thread had deteriorated?

    Or possibly they had to slice it to remove it during the autopsy.
    That makes sense.



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