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    Suspect Vehicle

    Please post info, ideas, photos and speculations about the suspect vehicle used in the abduction and murder of Tori Stafford.

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    Possible changes to MRs vehicle

    Here is a list of possible changes done to MRs vehicle since the abduction and murder:

    1. washed the exterior of the car at a 24hour car wash
    2. vacuumed the interior of the car
    3. washed the interior of the car
    4. removed the carpet from the interior of the car and the trunk
    5. removed the rear car seat
    6. changed the tires
    7. changed the paint colour
    8. removed the rear door handles
    9. switched the license plate


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    Photos of the suspect vehicle

    1. From the Esso station in Woodstock, ON



    2. Photo released to the public on May 22, from undisclosed location, presumably in OPP garage.



    "Investigators are hopeful that someone may recall seeing the suspect vehicle and/or suspects either in the City of Woodstock or the Guelph area. The vehicle is described as a 2003 Honda 4-Door car, blue with black spray paint over portions of the vehicle."

    "Police continue to look for evidence in and around Wellington County in proximity to the City of Guelph, Ontario. Investigators have cause to believe that the vehicle, suspects and victim may have been in and around the area of the Home Depot parking lot sometime during the early evening hours of the 8th of April 2009. Police would like to speak with anyone who may have information pertaining to the vehicle and/or occupants.

    Police investigators are also asking area property owners in within a 50 minute drive of Guelph City, to check their fields and report any suspicious or significant changes they notice to landscape or familiar landmarks."


    link: http://www.ocpsaux.org/PRESS%20RELEASEFrame1Source1.htm

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    I tried to reply to a Matou's post on the picture of MTR's car which had the red outline regarding it being spliced. I had to delete my post as it made the thread go off the page. Now the original post is gone??? did I do that as it was my post I was deleting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    I tried to reply to a Matou's post on the picture of MTR's car which had the red outline regarding it being spliced. I had to delete my post as it made the thread go off the page. Now the original post is gone??? did I do that as it was my post I was deleting.
    Not sure what happened. You mean the image in the other thread right? I'll try to respond to it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    Not sure what happened. You mean the image in the other thread right? I'll try to respond to it myself.
    Yes, I must have back up into this thread somehow. Don't know hmm??

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    Civics and Winter Conditions

    Courtesy of Whyaduck:

    Was looking into some forums, re: Civic and winter conditions, and people seem to be saying that "it's all about the tires" in winter conditions.

    See, for example:
    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1c0afd

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    Here is a list of possible changes done to MRs vehicle since the abduction and murder:

    1. washed the exterior of the car at a 24hour car wash
    2. vacuumed the interior of the car
    3. washed the interior of the car
    4. removed the carpet from the interior of the car and the trunk
    5. removed the rear car seat
    6. changed the tires
    7. changed the paint colour
    8. removed the rear door handles
    9. switched the license plate


    JMO
    I'm wondering if he changed the whole rear door. It's just really odd that there isn't a door handle, not even an indent where one would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxfactor View Post
    I'm wondering if he changed the whole rear door. It's just really odd that there isn't a door handle, not even an indent where one would be.
    I have a hard time seeing an indent as well. Very weird. I almost feel like it is an entirely different vehicle. I know that is too far out there, though.

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    I believe I see where the handle is. It's seems to be obscured by the angle and colour of the car in this photo. Half way up the rear wheel. I don't know how to mark the pic in red as you've done to show where I mean. Look at the 1st picture at esso..and sorta get an alignement of where the handle is, then go back and size it up that way.. there is a slight indent shadow of where it is. seems to me anyhow


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
    I believe I see where the handle is. It's seems to be obscured by the angle and colour of the car in this photo. Half way up the rear wheel. I don't know how to mark the pic in red as you've done to show where I mean. Look at the 1st picture at esso..and sorta get an alignement of where the handle is, then go back and size it up that way.. there is a slight indent shadow of where it is. seems to me anyhow
    It should be under the little rear window. I see a little blur...

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    Media Release

    The media release about the vehicle was given on May 22nd, three days after the arrests of the suspects in the case. A photo (a video still) taken from an Esso station in Woodstock, ON was released with an appeal to the public ito see if anyone recognized the vehicle used in the abduction of Tori Stafford. There was initial confusion as to whether the image was taken from the Guelph Home Depot. In the same media release, LE announced the search for the missing car seat and appealed to anyone living within a 50 minute drive of Guelph to check their properties. As of yet, there is no explanation as what information determined the 50 minute drive from Guelph.
    Investigators focused on the area near Fergus, ON even though this is only a 15 minute drive from Guelph.

    May 22, 2009

    • photos released of the suspect vehicle
    • LE asks for anyone seeing this vehicle in the area of Guelph and surrounding areas to come forward
    • LE asks for anyone seeing this vehicle at the Home Depot in Guelph in the early evening hours of April 8th to come forward. There is no specific time given other than "early evening hours"
    • LE announce that they are searching for the car's missing back bench seat
    • LE is appealing to anyone living within a 50 minute drive of Guelph to check thier properties for anything suspicious


    Link: http://www.ocpsaux.org/PRESS%20RELEASEFrame1Source1.htm

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    Silly question... but hanging from the rear view window, i see what looks like some sort of dog tags (military style?) or something? What is that thing? Its probably inconsequential but its driving me crazy -- and I don't know why! Anyone have any idea what it is, and what the significance is??

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    Quote Originally Posted by margaret_diane View Post
    Silly question... but hanging from the rear view window, i see what looks like some sort of dog tags (military style?) or something? What is that thing? Its probably inconsequential but its driving me crazy -- and I don't know why! Anyone have any idea what it is, and what the significance is??
    I noticed that too, and guessed that it was some kind of LE identification tag, but I could be wrong. Maybe DC can post if it was there prior to the arrest.

    MOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by matou View Post
    I have a hard time seeing an indent as well. Very weird. I almost feel like it is an entirely different vehicle. I know that is too far out there, though.
    I'm pretty sure this is the same car. If you look at the paint job on the hood in both pictures you can see where the matte paint ends on the hood and the more shiny paint starts. Also, the roof has shiny paint in both, pretty much in the same places (from what I can see). I think the rear handle indent is there. This is just such a lousy picture LE released the front ones almost blend into the car. I wonder if they even used an SLR to take this picture. These guys need to get better camera equipment because this picture is not in focus at all. Don't get me wrong, I think they are doing a great job, but something as simple as a clear picture would help!

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