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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    Or maybe he got there and the thought of getting out with a 5 yo and an 18 mo was too much? I've felt that way at Wal-mart. The whole facing the crowd and cranky 3 yo and 10 yo and I've turned around and gone home, planning to make a late-night run by myself.

    But I wonder why there are different versions of what happened. The truth is not this hard. Or it shouldn't be.
    LOoks like we were posting almost exactly the same thing at exactly the same moment!!!! LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    Weird. I had been looking for the article I'd read that said both kids were left in the car, and read comments on another board that said he hadn't left the car and was looking for the news report they were talking about.

    Found lots of articles but not any that specifically said he'd left BOTH kids in the car. And now it appears that he didn't get out either?

    Can you drive around in this salvage yard? If the part was small (what was the particular part I wonder?) you'd never know whether they had it ...
    But then what about the report from the salvage yard workers that he had crying kids in the car (or one crying kid, we aren't sure what the salvage yard workers stated)?


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    My head is spinning. Right now I actually believe the foster parents.

    Do we know how often the children were dropped off there? Was it regularly on Mondays? It's hard to imagine that someone was there at the right time to snatch Hassani unless they regularly saw him being dropped off there.

    IIRC the foster dad said he was earlier because he had a meeting, so if someone was expecting him around 5, would they be there, and if they were there, then do they live around there?

    lol at you and me Columbo!


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    Is it possible it was a crime of opportunity? Predator comes out to car and sees Hassani and grabs him?

    I just don't want another parent, whose job it is to love and protect their children, to be the creep(s) that in the end, were who we should have been looking at the whole time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    My head is spinning. Right now I actually believe the foster parents.

    Do we know how often the children were dropped off there? Was it regularly on Mondays? It's hard to imagine that someone was there at the right time to snatch Hassani unless they regularly saw him being dropped off there.

    IIRC the foster dad said he was earlier because he had a meeting, so if someone was expecting him around 5, would they be there, and if they were there, then do they live around there?

    lol at you and me Columbo!
    I know, I feel the same way, my head is spinning.

    It's all pretty unclear as to what days the kids were dropped off, or even if it truly was a regular routine. You know the police have questioned the other workers in the shoe store so just have faith that THEY (LE) know! If they suspected the foster parents then do you think they would have done more searching at the house? It seems as if that is what usually happens if there is strong enough evidence.

    And if LR was not "on schedule," then if someone actually planned to kidnap Hasanni, it would have probably thrown their plan off, too. It's just so strange.

    I was looking for an update on the vigil but I guess it will have to wait until tomorrow!! I think my brain needs a rest...Poor Hasanni....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterfly View Post
    WTF? This comes from a news article AWC posted on the info thread....post #33.

    "Law enforcement sources say Ross reported taking the boy with him earlier that day to the Hayward Pick Your Part auto salvage yard.

    The trip was unusual, authorities said, because even though Ross said he was looking for a particular part, witnesses told authorities that he had left without getting out of the car to look for it."
    Yet another version of what happened at the junk yard? I did hear previously that he had left without getting the part, but this is the first I've heard of him never getting out of the car. Earlier, it seemed the story was he'd gotten out and left the two kids in the car. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    Weird. I had been looking for the article I'd read that said both kids were left in the car, and read comments on another board that said he hadn't left the car and was looking for the news report they were talking about.

    Found lots of articles but not any that specifically said he'd left BOTH kids in the car. And now it appears that he didn't get out either?

    Can you drive around in this salvage yard? If the part was small (what was the particular part I wonder?) you'd never know whether they had it ...
    BBM

    I guess you'd look for the make and model of the whole car, then get out to see if it had the part. It's like a U-Pick place, right? The cars are there, and you take the stuff off yourself?

    Dunno...


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyaDuck? View Post
    BBM

    I guess you'd look for the make and model of the whole car, then get out to see if it had the part. It's like a U-Pick place, right? The cars are there, and you take the stuff off yourself?

    Dunno...
    I don't know how those places work! Maybe the workers remove the part for you after you find the right make and model vehicle?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo View Post
    LR really does seem genuinely upset, anguished, angry and frustrated -- from what they have said it does sound like they have fought for them. Therapy for Hasanni was mentioned one time, etc etc.

    What keeps knocking me for a loop is that Hasanni was grabbed (if he was grabbed) and disappeared within a one or two minute time frame, in such a peaceful, harmless-seeming area! You'd think that LR would have had to see a perp or someone lurking around...I guess stranger things have happened. If he really was feeling rushed he might not have noticed someone passing by. Maybe they should hypnotize him! he might remember something that he wasn't aware of consciously (like a person coming down the street or by the back of the alley).

    Sorry--I just keep going around and around with this.

    I thought it was interesting what the policeman said about lack of leads. That is sad. Maybe the reward money will be enough to make someone rat out the perp (if there is a perp).
    The only thing that makes sense to me if Hassani was taken from the alley is it was by somebody he knew and went willingly without a fuss. Otherwise I'd think there'd be a commotion that the people across the street at the restaurant might notice. And there seems to be only that one way out of the alley if the perp had a car. I'm still suspicious of the whole thing though which seems like a set up to make it look like he could've been taken from there. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by elepher50 View Post
    Think I finally got it - take a look:
    Who said OCD doesn't come in handy ?

    Seriously, great find and I think you're right !!!
    I was confused because I've seen her age reported as 30 and 33.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo View Post
    I don't know how those places work! Maybe the workers remove the part for you after you find the right make and model vehicle?
    I'm not sure either. There are some places where you help yourself and others where somebody does it for you. Either way I don't think LR would be able to just drive around the place. He'd probably have to park and go look on foot if it's a self-serve place. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo View Post
    I know, I feel the same way, my head is spinning.

    I was looking for an update on the vigil but I guess it will have to wait until tomorrow!! I think my brain needs a rest...Poor Hasanni....
    I can sympathize. I go back and forth each time I see both of them interviewed. However, my wife did make it to the vigil today and I have information, her impressions and some helpful pictures to post later.


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    Argh, I don't know!

    LR *does* sound believable.

    I *can* imagine going somewhere and then just not being able to face it, and driving off (two tiny kids in a junkyard - yep! Esp if one is crying.)

    I *can* imagine that this is a horrible "just turned my back for a minute and the kid was snatched" scenario. It does happen!

    Ugh.

    For info, my brother used to go to our local "Pick Your Part" type place when he was a teen, "pimping" his car. It's just rows upon rows of cars, sometimes together in makes/models, usually not, and you go in and wander around and find what you want. You remove it yourself (so take your own toolbox in) and then pay on the way out, depending on what you find. I remember my brother and his friends perfecting the art of stashing smaller objects in their toolboxes and walking out without paying.... *cough*


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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I'm not sure either. There are some places where you help yourself and others where somebody does it for you. Either way I don't think LR would be able to just drive around the place. He'd probably have to park and go look on foot if it's a self-serve place. MOO
    It really might be possible to drive around the lot just to see if you can spot the kind of car you are looking for.

    I also agree that, with a couple crying kids, it is possible he just looked around and then said, "screw it."

    I do that sort of thing all the time, myself (well, not at auto parts places), and I only have one child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ForensicsFan View Post
    I can sympathize. I go back and forth each time I see both of them interviewed. However, my wife did make it to the vigil today and I have information, her impressions and some helpful pictures to post later.
    Cool, FF! Look forward to reading more later.


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