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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterfly View Post
    WTF? This comes from a news article AWC posted on the info thread....post #33.

    "Law enforcement sources say Ross reported taking the boy with him earlier that day to the Hayward Pick Your Part auto salvage yard.

    The trip was unusual, authorities said, because even though Ross said he was looking for a particular part, witnesses told authorities that he had left without getting out of the car to look for it."
    Wonder if Ross used his cell-phone from the salvage yard, and if so, was it to throw people off or to provide an alibi? Sorry, I think he's guilty as heck. Maybe, just maybe, there was another person involved. Yes he sounds sincere but so do most narcissistic sociopaths. mho
    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
    You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ForensicsFan View Post
    I can sympathize. I go back and forth each time I see both of them interviewed. However, my wife did make it to the vigil today and I have information, her impressions and some helpful pictures to post later.
    Great, thank you ForensicsFan! I'll look forward to this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHICANA View Post
    Who said OCD doesn't come in handy ?

    Seriously, great find and I think you're right !!!
    I was confused because I've seen her age reported as 30 and 33.
    LOL on the OCD .......... eleph


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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    The only thing that makes sense to me if Hassani was taken from the alley is it was by somebody he knew and went willingly without a fuss. Otherwise I'd think there'd be a commotion that the people across the street at the restaurant might notice. And there seems to be only that one way out of the alley if the perp had a car. I'm still suspicious of the whole thing though which seems like a set up to make it look like he could've been taken from there. MOO
    I'm wondering: how did Adam Walsh's abductor get him to go with him, w/o creating a stir ? Maybe this perp (if there was one) did something similar? Little Hasanni looks like such a pleasant little guy, I wonder if he would have screamed or made a fuss even if the person grabbed him and ran?


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyaDuck? View Post
    BBM

    I guess you'd look for the make and model of the whole car, then get out to see if it had the part. It's like a U-Pick place, right? The cars are there, and you take the stuff off yourself?

    Dunno...
    I've been to our local U Wrench It and it looks alot like the place LR visited.
    There are rules. You have to use your own tools, kids are not allowed in the yard. There's a waiting room. When we went with my hubby, the kids and I had to wait in that room. They had a TV and some toys for the kids.
    There was a price list, what's cool is that say you need a starter, regardless of what kind of car you have, they all cost the same. Truck parts cost more.
    You pull your part, get in line and pay. I hated it, it always took a long time to look through all the cars even though they're separated by make. Then you have to hope that it's not so picked over that your parts gone. Most of the time, we left empty handed.
    This is really bringing back lousy and boring memories. But since I bought a new car two years ago, I haven't gone back.
    If I could afford a late model beemer, there's no way I'd spend the time looking for part they might not even have.
    What's the name of the place ? Maybe we can find their rules online.
    I don't think they would have let LR go in with either child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    Weird. I had been looking for the article I'd read that said both kids were left in the car, and read comments on another board that said he hadn't left the car and was looking for the news report they were talking about.

    Found lots of articles but not any that specifically said he'd left BOTH kids in the car. And now it appears that he didn't get out either?

    Can you drive around in this salvage yard? If the part was small (what was the particular part I wonder?) you'd never know whether they had it ...
    u know that has been in the back of my mind
    My husband has taken our son a million times to the junkyard here in town.
    well, he went to a pull-a-part junkyard in knoxville and there a big sign no one under 16 allowed in. so he had to turn around and come home and not go in.

    maybe they have the same policy and he didnt know jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo View Post
    I'm wondering: how did Adam Walsh's abductor get him to go with him, w/o creating a stir ? Maybe this perp (if there was one) did something similar? Little Hasanni looks like such a pleasant little guy, I wonder if he would have screamed or made a fuss even if the person grabbed him and ran?
    I do think people are a lot more observant nowdays than when little Adam was abducted. What still sticks with me though is LR supposedly popped open the trunk of the car which would've blocked the view of anybody from across the street. It also seems if the perp had a car, where did he put it? How far would the perp have to carry Hassani and wouldn't it have to be back out onto the street? And all this within the couple of minutes when LR went down the street to the front of the shoe store? And this "routine" didn't seem so regular that a perp would be waiting or know they were going to show up just then. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I do think people are a lot more observant nowdays than when little Adam was abducted. What still sticks with me though is LR supposedly popped open the trunk of the car which would've blocked the view of anybody from across the street. It also seems if the perp had a car, where did he put it? How far would the perp have to carry Hassani and wouldn't it have to be back out onto the street? And all this within the couple of minutes when LR went down the street to the front of the shoe store? And this "routine" didn't seem so regular that a perp would be waiting or know they were going to show up just then. MOO
    Good points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RJA00 View Post
    u know that has been in the back of my mind
    My husband has taken our son a million times to the junkyard here in town.
    well, he went to a pull-a-part junkyard in knoxville and there a big sign no one under 16 allowed in. so he had to turn around and come home and not go in.

    maybe they have the same policy and he didnt know jmo
    http://www.pullapart.com/About/How.aspx
    If that were the case though how did these witnesses (version #1) see the kids left in the car or (version #2) hear/see Hassani crying? The initial impression I got from earlier articles was that the kids were left in the car for at least a few minutes while LR was looking for parts. MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    I do think people are a lot more observant nowdays than when little Adam was abducted. What still sticks with me though is LR supposedly popped open the trunk of the car which would've blocked the view of anybody from across the street. It also seems if the perp had a car, where did he put it? How far would the perp have to carry Hassani and wouldn't it have to be back out onto the street? And all this within the couple of minutes when LR went down the street to the front of the shoe store? And this "routine" didn't seem so regular that a perp would be waiting or know they were going to show up just then. MOO
    Great questions!!! Ross was an hour early from his usual routine. Who would know that info?
    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
    You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eyes4crime View Post
    Great questions!!! Ross was an hour early from his usual routine. Who would know that info?
    Thanks It just seems in order for Hassani to have been abducted from the alley some random perp would have to be there right at the same time LR pulled in, and then how would this random perp get away with Hassani without either driving away in a car or carrying him and nobody noticed it. Too many windows and people around there for somebody to try this, in my opinion, especially with the tight parking situation. Oh, and what if LR saw the perp and started chasing him down? Too risky! MOO
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    Okay here's a thought--didn't they say the last time Hassani was seen by other members of the family was the weekend before he disappeared? Some family get together of sorts? Would the mom or someone else in the family have decided to take him back from the couple? Innocent talk among relatives--"oh I have a class tomorrow and a job interview before that so I have to drop the kids off at 4:00 with Jen. Hope she gets along ok with them at work, etc etc" If Shemika or someone else in family wanted to get them--perfect set up--exact time they arrive. Maybe even mentioned their "routine". Couldn't get the little girl though because he carried her along. Just a random thought but many kidnappings are noncustodial parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by doobiedoo52 View Post
    Okay here's a thought--didn't they say the last time Hassani was seen by other members of the family was the weekend before he disappeared? Some family get together of sorts? Would the mom or someone else in the family have decided to take him back from the couple? Innocent talk among relatives--"oh I have a class tomorrow and a job interview before that so I have to drop the kids off at 4:00 with Jen. Hope she gets along ok with them at work, etc etc" If Shemika or someone else in family wanted to get them--perfect set up--exact time they arrive. Maybe even mentioned their "routine". Couldn't get the little girl though because he carried her along. Just a random thought but many kidnappings are noncustodial parents.
    Also a very good point! But where is he, if the noncustodial parent(s) took him? MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post


    For reference, this is the driveway/alley where car was parked, and the route LR took to the front of the store.

    This really makes no sense IMO. I was under the impression then that the front of the store was just around the edge of the driveway.

    If this was their normal routine, why not call the store from the driveway and say "I'm here" without lugging an 18-month old (or strolling her) that distance not to mention leaving a 5 year old little boy alone and out of your sight ...

    Thanks to AngelWhoCares and Columbo without whose links to photos, I'd still be in the dark on this.
    I was under the SAME impression & now wonder why

    I can clearly see it's a much longer walk & totally out of his view which makes what he did 1000x worse then I originally thought!


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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    Don't worry, it's nothing. I just left it because it had been quoted and this way if someone else comes up with the same info, they can see it's been checked already.

    Sometimes it's good to rule things out as well as in.
    I am the resident zebra chaser. I tend to hear hoofbeats and think "Yay, unicorns."
    Sometimes I come up with good stuff, though.

    K! Thanks for explaining & for being our zebra chaser!


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