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    08.17.2009 Docs. released

    Here is LE's investigative report on LPG Jr. Of course, we get the first doc. from Rick

    http://ricksblog.biz/wp-content/uplo...lez-report.pdf

    Please add links as the media releases them.
    Last edited by daisy7; 08-17-2009 at 04:04 PM.

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    Snipped from a link provided by solomisskitty in the media thread

    According to documents released on Monday, an autopsy after the July 9 deaths showed Melanie Billings, 43, was shot twice in her chest, once in her left nostril, once in her right eye and once in her left temple. Byrd Billings, 66, was shot twice in the back of his head and once in each of his legs.
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...TAM&SECTION=US

    OMG! Melanie was shot 5 times and Byrd was shot 4 times - this was brutal!! After seeing this, I really don't understand why LE thought this was NOT a contract hit.

    RANT: Why am I reading about this in a Tampa paper? WTH is up with local media?? Yeah, we had TS Claudette come through here, but come on! Get the docs. out, already!!
    Last edited by daisy7; 08-17-2009 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisy7 View Post
    OMG! Melanie was shot 5 times and Byrd was shot 4 times - this was brutal!! After seeing this, I really don't understand why LE thought this was NOT a contract hit.

    (
    OK, my apologies to Gene. Yes, you both are right. The number of shots makes it seem more like a hit. Sad.
    Last edited by megamami; 08-17-2009 at 04:37 PM. Reason: typing

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    Mark posted this about if the docs. will be posted on PNJ.

    I don't know about the documents... very labor-intensive. Three of us at PNJ are reading the papers now.
    http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/sec...Id=personaDest



    Hopefully, Fox 10 or another local station will post them. I'm happy to go pick them up tomorrow, but don't even know how to do this. I'll check with Muzikman on how to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisy7 View Post
    Snipped from a link provided by solomisskitty in the media thread



    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...TAM&SECTION=US

    OMG! Melanie was shot 5 times and Byrd was shot 4 times - this was brutal!! After seeing this, I really don't understand why LE thought this was NOT a contract hit.

    RANT: Why am I reading about this in a Tampa paper? WTH is up with local media?? Yeah, we had TS Claudette come through here, but come on! Get the docs. out, already!!
    Overkill much? I feel so bad for them.

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    I think there is a charge (about 15 cents per page). Several of us offered to help reimburse Muzikman for the Anthony document charges, but he never took us up on it.

    Regarding the Tampa newspaper, they simply provide breaking news from AP:

    National AP breaking news: http://ap.tbo.com/breaking/national/index.htm

    Florida breaking news: http://ap.tbo.com/breaking/florida/index.htm

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    Byrd Billings, 66, was shot twice in the back of his head and once in each of his legs.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/flor...y/1189708.html
    Shot once in each leg! Shot twice in the back of the head!

    THAT sounds like a contract hit, not a robbery-gone-bad! Why did LE seem to avoid investigating this as a contract hit?!?!?!?!


    Add the Billings' lawyer trying to protect the reputations of the Billingses and the saying 'proof is stranger than fiction' becomes relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Muffet View Post
    I just found this article too.



    THAT sounds like a contract hit, not a robbery-gone-bad.

    Shot once in each leg! Shot twice in the back of the head!

    Why did LE seem to avoid investigating this as a contract hit?!?!?!?!


    Add the Billings' lawyer trying to protect the reputations of the Billingses.


    This case is proving the 'proof is stranger than fiction' saying to be true.

    It is weird.

    * Rick has sources saying it is a contract hit
    * LPG names names who wanted a hit
    * The murder seems very "execution style"

    And yet, the Sheriff's office spokesman (not Morgan, but his spokesman) comes out with a statement just three weeks ago denying that it is a contract hit.

    Do you get the feeling that if Rick had not reported this as a hit, that this avenue would not have been seriously investigated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post

    Do you get the feeling that if Rick had not reported this as a hit, that this avenue would not have been seriously investigated?

    Unfortunately, yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Do you get the feeling that if Rick had not reported this as a hit, that this avenue would not have been seriously investigated?
    Eventually, someone in the media would have caught on since the number of adopted children caused this to go national from the start.

    I'm an average middle-aged mother living in Pittsburgh, and I thought something was fishy in the first news reports. I've never been a sluther until this story! My quest for answers lead me to this site! From the start, I thought that someone must have wanted the Billingses killed. People just don't get murdered within a span of 4 minutes during a robbery. Now that these documents have been released, my suspicions have been validated. I'm very disappointed that it took the media to get LE to investigate. It was the Sheriff's public release statements refusing the possibility that raised red flags for me to begin with!

    It's not like Byrd was shot in the back of the head trying to escape. Afterall, his legs were shot. Very execution style IMO. I'll BET that the shots to his head were fired at close distance too!

    If this story has taught anyone anything, it's that nobody should try a contact hit on a family with a ton of adopted children. Too much news attention. If the Billingses had never adopted so many children with special needs, this story would have never gained any attention. They should have made it look like an automobile accident. Then again, the Billings' murders are probably a message to others----an unquestionable accidental death wouldn't have sent as strong of a message to others perhaps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
    Do you get the feeling that if Rick had not reported this as a hit, that this avenue would not have been seriously investigated?
    Then again, maybe yes.

    The New York Times thinks Rick's blogs played an important role.

    Here's the NYT story about Rick:

    Blogger Stirs a City by Suggesting That a Florida Couple’s Murder Was a Contract Killing
    by DAMIEN CAVE
    Published: August 16, 2009

    PENSACOLA, Fla. — The official storyline was clear. The state attorney said it was a robbery; Byrd and Melanie Billings, the parents of 13 adopted children with special needs, were murdered in their nine-bedroom house just a few miles from here because they were rich.

    But Rick Outzen, a local blogger and publisher of a small alternative weekly, heard a darker tale....Rick Outzen has been blogging and raising new questions in the case of Byrd and Melanie Billings.....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/17/us/17pensacola.html

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    Today the State Attorney’s Office released discovery documents in the Byrd and Melanie Billings murder case.

    Among the more than 700 pages of documents from the homicide investigation: interviews with witnesses and suspects, crime scene investigation reports, medical examiner’s reports.
    http://www.pnj.com/article/20090817/NEWS01/90817024

    No docs. yet, but according to Mark O'Brien's blog, they'll be up on the PNJ site soon.

    Victory, my friends!!!

    The PNJ hopes to post the statements within 45 minutes or so. This involves some 700 pages.

    Mark O'Brien

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    http://www.pnj.com/article/20090817/NEWS01/90817024

    "Jimmy Seaton, 45, of Pensacola told investigators that in mid-June, Gonzalez Jr. contacted him asking if he would participate in a robbery"

    So, LPG was selling this as a robbery. Probably it is true what we have heard that from LPG up it was meant to be a hit, and from LPG down, it was believed to be a robbery.

    "Byrd Billings struggled against the men who came into his home, grabbing one of them by the neck"

    As some speculated, Byrd fought. Why was he shot in the legs? To cause pain and get him to talk before murdering him?

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    Pnj has released a ton of documents. I have not even had a look:

    They can be found on this link:
    http://www.pnj.com/article/20090817/NEWS01/90817024

    Or download them directly:
    File 1: http://www.pnj.com/assets/pdf/DP140677817.PDF

    File 6: http://www.pnj.com/assets/pdf/DP140674817.PDF

    File 2: http://www.pnj.com/assets/pdf/DP140676817.PDF

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